Who wants a good 7th edition?

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FoundationOfRancor

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I do! Thats why im making one! I am going to make a card list, full with rarity included, to send to wizards. I doubt they will listen, but its somethin to do. I want to make sure ALL the cards are playable. And none of them are broken! I also want to reprint the p9. Heres how: insert them as ultra, ultra rare. On the back of these cards say "Power Nine" This means that the power nine will be marked! Thats so they cant be played in tournments, but they will have to make the mark small so you can still play with them in casual play. I also want to make this set black bordered. If you have any comments, or any cards you want me to include, post them here.
 
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TylersOnFire

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great idea kc :cool: I know what you mean they messed up 6th pretty bad. something you forgot is that they should have a symbol liek they did in 6th maybe a 7 would do!
tlyer
 
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Multani

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Ok, FoR.
Here's my suggestions.
Reprint 4th Edition. (At least part of it.)

Reprinted 4th:
Air Elemental
Alabaster Potion
Aladdin's Ring
Amulet of Kroog
Angry Mob
Animate Artifact
Animate Dead
Animate Wall
Ankh of Mishra
Apprentice Wizard
Armageddon
Backfire
Bad Moon
Ball Lightning
Birds of Paridise
Blessing
Blight
Blood Lust
Blue Elemantal Blast
Bog Imp
Brainwash
Brass Man
Burrowing
Carnivorous Plant
Castle
All the CoPs
Clay Statue
Conservator
Control Magic
Conversion
Counterspell
Craw Wurm
Creature Bind
Crusade
Dark Ritual
Disenchant
Disintergrate
Drain Life
Drudge Skeleton
Durkwood Boars
Earthquake
Eternal Warrior
Evil Presence
Fear
Fireball
Firebreathing
Fissure
Flight
Flood
Fog
Forest
Fortified Area
Frozen Shade
Gaseous Form
Giant Growth
Giant Spider
Giant Strength
Glasses of Urza
Gray Ogre
Grizzly Bear
Healing Salve
Hill Giant
The Hive
Howling Mine
Hurloon Minotaur
Hurricane
Hypnotic Specter
Instill Energy
Island
Island Sanctuary
Jade Monolith
Keldon Warlord
Killer Bees
Kormus Bell
Land Leech
Leviathan
Lightning Bolt
Living Lands
Llanowar Elves
Lure
Mana Flare
Mana Short
Mahamoti Djinn
Marsh Viper
Meekstone
Merfolk of the Pearl Trident
Mind Twist
Mishra's Factory
Mountain
Nevinyrral's Disk
Nightmare
Ornithopter
Pearled Unicorn
Pestilence
Phantasmal Terrain
Piety
Pikemen
Pit Scorpion
Plaque Rats
Plains
Power Sink
Prodigal Sorcerer
Psychic Venom
Pyrotechnics
Red Elemental Blast
Regeneration
Righteousness
Royal Assasin
Samite Healer
Savannah Lions
Scathe Zombies
Scryb Sprites
Sengir Vampire
Serra Angel
Shatter
Shivan Dragon
Simulcrum
Soul Net
Spell Blast
Spirit Link
Stasis
Steal Artifact
Stone Giant
Stone Rain
Stream of Life
Strip Mine
Sunken City
Swamp
Swords to Plowshares
Terror
Thicket Basilisk
Titania's Song
Tranquility
Tundra Wolves
Twiddle
Unstable Mutation
Unsummon
Untamed Wilds
Urza's Avenger
Venom
Web
Wildgrowth
Winter Blast
Winter Orb
Wrath of God
Zephyr Falcon
Yotian Soldier

Here's a possible 7th symbol 6>
It means better than 6th. :D

Sorry for all the typing. :(
But I think 4th should be reprinted and I've taken our
the garbage and th confusing cards.
Hope this helps FoR. :)

[Edited by Multani on May 14th, 2000 at 06:10 PM]
 
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linsivvi

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Sorry to burst your bubble KC but in scrye, there is a section right next to the banned cards, saying all the cards they are not going to remake, the power nine and a bunch of other posted cards are on there.
 
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FoundationOfRancor

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I am aware of that, it is a mistake not to and I want them to change it. And they wont be printing legal versions of the p9.
 
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FoundationOfRancor

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Multani: These are the only ones I am considering of bringing back. Many that you listed are boring or overcosted. What about cards from Mirage, Tempest, Saga, and mAsks block. What do you guys think I should include?

Air Elemental
Aladdin's Ring
Angry Mob
Animate Artifact
Animate Dead
Animate Wall
Ankh of Mishra
Armageddon
Bad Moon
Ball Lightning
Birds of Paridise
Blood Lust
Brainwash
Brass Man
All the CoPs
Clay Statue
Control Magic
Conversion
Counterspell
Craw Wurm
Crusade
Dark Ritual
Disenchant
Disintergrate
Earthquake
Fear
Fireball
Firebreathing
Fog
Forest
Frozen Shade
Gaseous Form
Giant Growth
Giant Strength
Glasses of Urza
Grizzly Bear
Healing Salve
The Hive
Howling Mine
Hurricane
Hypnotic Specter
Instill Energy
Island
Island Sanctuary
Jade Monolith
Keldon Warlord
Killer Bees
Leviathan
Living Lands
Llanowar Elves
Lure
Meekstone
Merfolk of the Pearl Trident
Mishra's Factory
Mountain
Nevinyrral's Disk
Nightmare
Ornithopter
Pestilence
Plaque Rats
Plains
Power Sink
Prodigal Sorcerer
Psychic Venom
Regeneration
Righteousness
Savannah Lions
Scryb Sprites
Sengir Vampire
Serra Angel
Shatter
Shivan Dragon
Spirit Link
Steal Artifact
Stone Rain
Stream of Life
Strip Mine
Swamp
Swords to Plowshares
Terror
Tranquility
Tundra Wolves
Twiddle
Unsummon
Urza's Avenger
Venom
Winter Blast
Winter Orb
Wrath of God
Yotian Soldier
 
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Multani

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"Decisions are made, but they can be recalled.
Mistakes are made, but they can be fixed.
Things are banned, but they can be brought back.
Sometimes, what's done- can be.....undone."

-Me
You kinda get the point Linsivvi? :D
 
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FoundationOfRancor

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Multani, waht do you think of the cards I listed, any complaints?
 
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Multani

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No complaints. As a matter of fact, I thought a good deal of the 4th cards wouldn't make it. :D Turns out it was just the opposite. :)

Sorry FoR, but I can't be of much help in the Mirage or Tempest part. Don't have any guides.
Mirage:
Tutors
All the Charms, including Visions(set) charms
Maro
Tempest:
Booby Trap
Decent artifacts
The good burn spells
Urza Block and Masque Block:
I'll get back to you on that.
(So many good cards, so little time and space. Damn.)
 
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FoundationOfRancor

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Okay here is waht I think:
350 Card set
4 sets of each land
320 Card slots
50 cards for each color
25 commons
20 uncommon
15 Rare
is that good or more commons? Anyway, heres the cards I know I want to include
Blue Rare:
- Rising Waters
- Rootwater theif
- sunder
- Zurs Weilding
- control Magic
- energy Vortex
- chronatog
- desertation
- Lord of the atlantis
- sibilant spirit
- tolarian entrancer
- meditate
- propaganda
- tradwind rider
- equilibrium
Blue Uncommon:
- Chill
- dismiss
- thwart
- steal enchantment
- evacuation
- intruder alarm
- reins of power
- wall of tears
- mana breach
- dissipate
- mystical tutor
- political trickery
- poly morph
- Suq'Ata firewalker
- impulse
- man o war
- prosperity
- Air elemental
- phantom monster
- steal rtifact
Blue Common:
- bommerang
- memory lapse
- power sink
- Ray of command
- brainstorm
- counterspell
- hydroblast
- levitahn
- merfolk of the pearl tident
- tim
- psychic venom
- unsommon
- wall of air
- disrupt
- flux
- tolarian entrancer
- legerdemain
- mana servance
- hesatation
- back to basics
- arcane lab
- show and tell
- turnabout
Thats for blue. What do you guys think?
 
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Lythand

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I just wish they would unban the mana excellerators like Lotus Petal, dark ritual, and the likes in extended format.I miss them.
 
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Spaceman Spiff

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One thing FoR
leviathan isnt COMMON!!!!!!

and another , evacuation, intrudar alarm, reins of power are all rare!!
and propaganda and control magic is uncommon!

just a pointer... :D
 

Spiderman

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I honestly think wishing for the P9 in any form is just that, a wish, because they are majorly broken no matter how you play with them. Also, why the heck do you want to make it black-bordered? Just get the original cards if you're that concerned about the border.

Other than that I don't really have an opinion on any specific cards that make it into 7th.
 
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FoundationOfRancor

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I wanted to alot of chunk rares not so rare so they would get played more. No one plays with levitan except for newbies. So why make it rare? What do you guys think?
 
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Apollo

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I am personally against the reprinting of the Power 9 for my own reasons, but I won't go into them here. However, Wizards has said many times that they won't reprint the power 9. If they do, they will infuriate collectors, even if they aren't legal, and many other people as well just for going back on there word. They know all this. If you do intend to submit this to wotc, I wouldn't include them. There is no way they are going to print them, and if you include something like that, they will be less inclined to take the rest of what you say to them seriously.

Furthermore, I don't think there should EVER be ultra-ultra rare cards. The day they do that, I imagine I will quit the game. I liked the foils, because you could get the regular card; the foils were no better. But ultra-powerful chase cards like you suggest are another matter entirely; I don't want my group game coming down to whoever happened to get the Black Lotus in their pack of 7th edition. That would be incredibly boring, and unfair to others. Plus, it would make tournament players furious to open their packs and get a rare that they can't use; it's a waste of money, as TomB as pointed out often regarding banned cards.

I just feel strongly about this stuff; it isn't an attack or anything. By the way, I'd still like to play you on M:IE sometime.

Apollo
 
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FoundationOfRancor

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I really got to thank apollo for his very calm post. He didnt yell or anything, which is cool. I think I wont suggest the reprinting of the p9. I thinks hes right. Anyway, do you guys think we should reprint old crap rares that no one played with as commons? Levitahn is a fun card, I would love to see it was a common. They made scaled wurm a common...
 
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Dune Echo

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As much as I would love to see some of the old, good stuff reprinted again, Apollo is right. I think there are way too many cons to reprinting said cards and let's not forget, they are just plain BROKEN! Basically, though, I think it's not so much the power of the cards, but the names themselves. Compare these two names just for my amusement:

Which would you rather play with?

Fire Diamond 2
Artifact
Fire Diamond comes into play tapped.
T: Add R to your mana pool.

or

Cracked Mox Ruby 2
Artifact
Cracked Mox Ruby comes into play tapped.
T: Add R to your mana pool.


I really think that instead of reprints, the theme and flavor needs to come back of the Power 9 and stuff. Think about Mox Diamond for a second. If it wasn't called a Mox, do you think people would have gone as GAGA over it than if it had been called Jeweled Amulet (Yes, I know that name has been used already.)? Yes, it would have widely been used by the pros, but do you think that ye old newbie might have skipped right over it while flipping through a binder because it didn't have one of the sacred names on it? It's much more likely IMO.

Just to support my point, let me add this true story. I remember when Tempest had first come out. I didn't get many packs of it at all, but I can still remember how I just kind of stared at Lotus Petal just because it had the word "Lotus" and emulated Black Lotus! Later, I remember overhearing two dealers talking about opening boxes of Tempest and one of the guys was bragging (!) about getting 6 of them in a box. Lotus Petals, just Lotus Petals.

Do you think Jeweled Amulet would have been a more respected card if it had been called Mox Quartz or Mox Prism? (Prism would have worked great because you have to charge the artifact with a color.) I'm sure of it.

I really think that instead of requesting reprints, Wizards should focus on the Mox/Lotus/broken cards mythology. Look how thematic and cool Phyrexian and Rathi cards sound. Does anything else quite sound like a Phyrexian Dreadnought?
 
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Apollo

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I like the crap rares as commons idea. Most people don't care about their commons anyway, and if some new kid opens a pack and sees a 10/10, it'd probably make his day. So why not give him a better chance of getting that Leviathon, instead of making it a rare and just making other people mad? Good idea Rancor.

Apollo
 
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Multani

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Saga:
Beast of Burden
Braidwood Sextant
Cathodion
Citanul Flute
Crawlspace
Damping Engine
Dragon Blood
Fodder Cannon
Grim Monolith
Iron Maiden
Lotus Blossom
Mansticore
Mishra's Helix
Mobile Fort
Noetic Scales
Phyrexian Colossus
Phyrexian Processor
Thran Dynamo
Thran Golem
Thran Lens
Urza's Blueprints
Volatic Key
Worn Powerstone

These are just the artifacts.
More to come. :D
 
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