Tribal II - Big Blue Limited Mythosx Oversoul Spiderman

Discussion in 'Games Run By CPA Members' started by Limited, Oct 24, 2005.

  1. mythosx Legendary Creature-Human

    untap upkeep draw, lay a plains, end turn.

    Limited
    Life: 20
    Hand: 6
    In Play:
    -2 Forest (T, T)
    -1 Swamp (T)
    - Morph (U) {2/2 vanilla.. duh}
    Graveyard: -
    RFG: -

    Mythosx
    Life: 20
    Hand: 6
    In Play:
    -(U) Island
    -(U) Forest
    -(U) Plains
    -Quick Sliver (1/1, S)
    Graveyard: -
    RFG: -

    BigBlue
    Life: 25
    Hand: 5
    In Play:
    -Plains (T)
    -Scrubland (T)
    (U) Soul Warden (1/1, Gain 1 life whenever a creature comes into play)
    (S) Crimson Acolyte (1/1 Protection from Red; W:Target creature gains Pro Red)
    Graveyard: -
    RFG: -

    Oversoul
    Life: 20
    Hand: 6
    In Play:
    -Plains x2 (T, T)
    Shaman en-Kor (1/2, S)
    Graveyard: -
    RFG: -

    Spiderman
    Life: 20
    Hand: 4
    In Play:

    (T, T) Plainsx2
    (T) Sol Ring

    (U) Leonin Skyhunter (WW, 3/3, flying, equipped with Leonin Scimitar)

    Leonin Scimitar (gives +1/+1, equip 1)

    Graveyard: -
    RFG:
  2. Oversoul The Tentacled One

    BB said he would be out for most of the rest of the day (yesterday now) and sent me his turn...

    Untap, Draw, Play Plains, Tap out to play Master Apothecary, done after that.

    Well, here we go...

    The $64,000 question: can anyone counter this?

    Untap, upkeep, draw, then drop a Starlit Sanctum. I'll tap the Sanctum for a colorless mana and tap a Plains as well to play Daru Spiritualist. I'll target Daru Spiritualist with Shaman en-Kor's ability a ridiculous number of times. I will then tap my remaining Plains to play Worthy Cause and sacrifice Daru Spiritualist to gain life. Spidey's turn.

    Limited
    Life: 20
    Hand: 6
    In Play:
    -2 Forest (T, T)
    -1 Swamp (T)
    - Morph (U) {2/2 vanilla.. duh}
    Graveyard: -
    RFG: -

    Mythosx
    Life: 20
    Hand: 6
    In Play:
    -(U) Island
    -(U) Forest
    -(U) Plains
    -Quick Sliver (1/1, U)
    Graveyard: -
    RFG: -

    BigBlue
    Life: 27
    Hand: 4?
    In Play:
    -Plainsx2 (T, T)
    -Scrubland (T)
    (U) Soul Warden (1/1, Gain 1 life whenever a creature comes into play)
    (U) Crimson Acolyte (1/1 Protection from Red; W:Target creature gains Pro
    Red)
    (S) Master Apothecary
    Graveyard: -
    RFG: -

    Oversoul
    Life: 9,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999
    Hand: 4
    In Play:
    -Plains x2 (T, T)
    -Starlit Sanctum (T)
    -Shaman en-Kor (1/2, U)
    Graveyard: Worthy Cause, Daru Spiritualist
    RFG: -

    Spiderman
    Life: 20
    Hand: 4
    In Play:

    (T, T) Plainsx2
    (T) Sol Ring

    (U) Leonin Skyhunter (WW, 3/3, flying, equipped with Leonin Scimitar)

    Leonin Scimitar (gives +1/+1, equip 1)

    Graveyard: -
    RFG:
  3. Limited Yes, but we won't care

    Whatever.

    Good game..
  4. BigBlue Magic Jones

    So, we're playing for second place now..... Sigh... 2 cleric decks.... For ease can we just say Oversoul can't lose due to damage/loss of life? rather than trying to keep that insane number perpetually...

    Let's do the following... we'll assume that he did it for an entire day, 10 times a second. (I honestly wouldn't sit longer than about 5 minutes of the combo, but being generous say it was a day... ). That would give him 10x60x60x24x2 +1 +20 = 1,728,021 life.... (his number without actually counting how attrociously high it is, is impossible to achieve in reality based on his lifetime and the actual length of time it would take to verbally activate the ability in a legit legal manner - time yourself saying "I activate the En-Kor's ability targetting the Daru Spiritualist, any responses?".... I can assure you it isn't 10 times per second, more like 10 times a minute if you give enough time for an actual response... if you did it for 100 years you'd only be able to activate it about 526 billion times.... (10x60x24x365.25x100) multiplied by 2(+2 toughness per iteration) you'd have a mere trillion lives.... not 9.99 x10 ^ (however many lives he said he had).... At any rate, barring an infinite damage combo, I do not feel he can lose the game from damage even if he never blocked and took every attack for the duration of the game... I don't think I could do even 5000 damage before I'm decked if I only attacked him and was never blocked... Maybe the sliver deck can, but I certainly couldn't kill him....
  5. mythosx Legendary Creature-Human

    Whoa whoa whoa whoa...hold on there skippy this game ain't over... :D remember I got a 166 card library....and somewhere in there I can whip up something to do that much damage....
  6. Oversoul The Tentacled One

    Yeah pasting my life total on every post would get tedious. We can just leave it as "a lot" in all the posts after that first one (until Mythosx plays his Sliver Queen combo or something else of that nature happens).
  7. BigBlue Magic Jones

    Well, if you have a 166 card deck, maybe you can deck him/us.... :D

    The other edit was meant to go here.... and since I'm a math geek I went ahead and calculated it anyways.... using his number and saying he did it 1 time every 10 seconds.....

    It would take 3.168808781 * 10^946 millenia to gain that much life.... (I could be off by a factor of 10 if I did my math wrong, it's been a while and computers don't normally count that high.... By the way, the universe isn't that old.... and doesn't that put Infinity and forever into some sort of perspective.... :D
  8. Oversoul The Tentacled One

    Seriously, I do find your statistical approach interesting.

    But...

    "421.2 - If the loop contains one or more optional actions and one player controls them all, that player chooses a number. The loop is treated as repeating that many times or until another player intervenes, whichever comes first. [CompRules 2005/08/01]"

    So I think I'll just take the easy way and pick a number...

    Speaking of which, I forgot to make the number even (I had 20 before, and the Shaman's toughness will be even no matter how many times I repeat the loop). I'll fix that presently.

    Edit: What was I thinking? I had it right the first time. I was pumping the Spiritualist, not the Shaman, so my life total SHOULD be an odd number. I'll change it back to the way it was...

    By the way, does anyone know where Spidey ran off to?
  9. Limited Yes, but we won't care

    The game ends or what?
  10. mythosx Legendary Creature-Human

    its spidermans turn.
  11. Limited Yes, but we won't care

    I know.. but is he still playing? It has been his turn for two days now...
  12. Oversoul The Tentacled One

    He didn't say he was going anywhere. This is probably just an unplanned absence. Give him some more time. He'll show up...
  13. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    Hey, I didn't have an unplanned absence. I get off every other Friday and of course after that is the weekend (which I'm never on). BB should have remembered most of that if anyone :)

    Anyway, so we're still playing for first? Untap, Draw, whack Oversoul for 3 :), drop a Wasteland, use it on the Starlit Sanctum, Done.

    Limited
    Life: 20
    Hand: 6
    In Play:
    -2 Forest (T, T)
    -1 Swamp (T)
    - Morph (U) {2/2 vanilla.. duh}
    Graveyard: -
    RFG: -

    Mythosx
    Life: 20
    Hand: 6
    In Play:
    -(U) Island
    -(U) Forest
    -(U) Plains
    -Quick Sliver (1/1, U)
    Graveyard: -
    RFG: -

    BigBlue
    Life: 27
    Hand: 4?
    In Play:
    -Plainsx2 (T, T)
    -Scrubland (T)
    (U) Soul Warden (1/1, Gain 1 life whenever a creature comes into play)
    (U) Crimson Acolyte (1/1 Protection from Red; W:Target creature gains Pro
    Red)
    (S) Master Apothecary
    Graveyard: -
    RFG: -

    Oversoul
    Life: 9,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,996
    Hand: 4
    In Play:
    -Plains x2 (T, T)
    -Shaman en-Kor (1/2, U)
    Graveyard: Worthy Cause, Daru Spiritualist, Starlit Sanctum
    RFG: -

    Spiderman
    Life: 20
    Hand: 4
    In Play:

    (U, U) Plainsx2
    (U) Sol Ring

    (T) Leonin Skyhunter (WW, 3/3, flying, equipped with Leonin Scimitar)

    Leonin Scimitar (gives +1/+1, equip 1)

    Graveyard: Wasteland
    RFG:
  14. Limited Yes, but we won't care

    Untap, Upkeep, Draw

    Play Swamp
    Eradicate on Shaman en-Kor (pm me your hand & decklist if you will)

    Attack Oversoul for two.

    Done


    Limited
    Life: 20
    Hand: 5
    In Play:
    -2 Forest (TT)
    -2 Swamp (TT)
    - Morph (T) {2/2 vanilla.. duh}
    Graveyard: Eradicate

    Mythosx
    Life: 20
    Hand: 6
    In Play:
    -(U) Island
    -(U) Forest
    -(U) Plains
    -Quick Sliver (1/1, U)
    Graveyard: -
    RFG: -

    BigBlue
    Life: 27
    Hand: 4?
    In Play:
    -Plainsx2 (T, T)
    -Scrubland (T)
    (U) Soul Warden (1/1, Gain 1 life whenever a creature comes into play)
    (U) Crimson Acolyte (1/1 Protection from Red; W:Target creature gains Pro
    Red)
    (S) Master Apothecary
    Graveyard: -
    RFG: -

    Oversoul
    Life: 9,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,994
    Hand: 4?
    In Play:
    -Plains x2 (T, T)
    Graveyard: Worthy Cause, Daru Spiritualist, Starlit Sanctum
    RFG: Shaman en-Kor x4?

    Spiderman
    Life: 20
    Hand: 4
    In Play:

    (U, U) Plainsx2
    (U) Sol Ring

    (T) Leonin Skyhunter (WW, 3/3, flying, equipped with Leonin Scimitar)

    Leonin Scimitar (gives +1/+1, equip 1)

    Graveyard: Wasteland
    RFG:
  15. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    It's gang-up on Oversoul! :D
  16. BigBlue Magic Jones

    If mythosx and oversoul have large (over 100 card decks).... it will be interesting to see just how much damage can be dealt.... and one can only hope there isn't another infinite life combo coming....

    By the By.... please write his life total as => 10^957 - 6 it's a lot easier to read that way... then just remember when updating his life you are counting down.... (As a secondary contest... why don't we each keep track of the damage/life dealt to Oversoul....)

    And yeah Spidey... I knew you weren't here... and like you I'm now without the Internet on weekends...
  17. Oversoul The Tentacled One

    Ow. That Skyhunter is killing me. I'll have to find some way to deal with it...

    Well, I was going to count the number of digits in my life total for the purpose of putting it in scientific notation, but it looks like BB did the work for me... :p

    Eradicate? That would look suspiciously like you were going for an Eradicate/Verdant Touch combo or something similar, but this is tribal. Hmm...
  18. mythosx Legendary Creature-Human

    End of turn drop a Crystaline Sliver

    Untap, Upkeep, Draw, play a swamp, explosive vegetation (forest, island)

    done

    Limited
    Life: 20
    Hand: 5
    In Play:
    -2 Forest (TT)
    -2 Swamp (TT)
    - Morph (T) {2/2 vanilla.. duh}
    Graveyard: Eradicate

    Mythosx
    Life: 20
    Hand: 6
    In Play:
    -(T,T) Islandx2
    -(T,T) Forestx2
    -(T) Plains
    -(T) Swamp
    -(U) Quick Sliver (1/1, Slivers maybe played as instants)
    -(U) Crystalline Sliver (2/2, Slivers Cannot be the target of spells or abilities.)
    Graveyard: -
    RFG: -

    BigBlue
    Life: 27
    Hand: 4?
    In Play:
    -Plainsx2 (T, T)
    -Scrubland (T)
    (U) Soul Warden (1/1, Gain 1 life whenever a creature comes into play)
    (U) Crimson Acolyte (1/1 Protection from Red; W:Target creature gains Pro
    Red)
    (S) Master Apothecary
    Graveyard: -
    RFG: -

    Oversoul
    Life: 9,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,
    999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,994
    Hand: 4?[b/]
    In Play:
    -Plains x2 (T, T)
    Graveyard: Worthy Cause, Daru Spiritualist, Starlit Sanctum
    RFG: Shaman en-Kor x4?

    Spiderman
    Life: 20
    Hand: 4
    In Play:

    (U, U) Plainsx2
    (U) Sol Ring

    (T) Leonin Skyhunter (WW, 3/3, flying, equipped with Leonin Scimitar)

    Leonin Scimitar (gives +1/+1, equip 1)

    Graveyard: Wasteland
    RFG:
  19. Limited Yes, but we won't care

    State of the Game

    Limited
    Life: 20
    Hand: 5
    In Play:
    -2 Forest (TT)
    -2 Swamp (TT)
    - Morph (T) {2/2 vanilla.. duh}
    Graveyard: Eradicate

    Mythosx
    Life: 20
    Hand: 6
    In Play:
    -(T,T) Islandx2
    -(T,T) Forestx2
    -(T) Plains
    -(T) Swamp
    -(U) Quick Sliver (1/1, Slivers maybe played as instants)
    -(U) Crystalline Sliver (2/2, Slivers Cannot be the target of spells or abilities.)
    Graveyard: Explosive Vegetation

    BigBlue
    Life: 27
    Hand: 4
    In Play:
    -Plainsx2 (T, T)
    -Scrubland (T)
    (U) Soul Warden (1/1, Gain 1 life whenever a creature comes into play)
    (U) Crimson Acolyte (1/1 Protection from Red; W:Target creature gains Pro
    Red)
    (S) Master Apothecary
    Graveyard: -

    Oversoul
    Life: 10^957 - 6
    Hand: 4
    In Play:
    -Plains x2 (T, T)
    Graveyard: Worthy Cause, Daru Spiritualist, Starlit Sanctum
    RFG: Shaman en-Kor x3

    Spiderman
    Life: 20
    Hand: 4
    In Play:

    (U, U) Plainsx2
    (U) Sol Ring

    (T) Leonin Skyhunter (WW, 3/3, flying, equipped with Leonin Scimitar)

    Leonin Scimitar (gives +1/+1, equip 1)

    Graveyard: Wasteland
  20. Oversoul The Tentacled One

    I was going to PM this to Limited, but it was a weird enough that I thought I'd just share it with everyone. I noticed the "3" on the number of Shamans that had been removed from the game. I knew that I had four in my deck, so I wondered what happened to the fourth. I thought maybe Limited made a mistake. I checked my PM to him. It only had two Shamans in my library. I thought, "Oh, maybe there are only three in my deck? Wait. No. That's wrong. I would have put all four of those guys in. I musth have counted incorrectly when I read off my library in that PM" So I checked my library on Apprentice. There were only two Shamans.

    But I was still pretty sure that I had originally had four copies total, not three. So I checked the other zones on Apprentice. No fourth Shaman was to be found. But then I went to the deck editor and checked my decklist. There were indeed four Shamans. Now that I think about it, I should have checked to see if my total number of cards was changed or anything. I've never seen anything like this before, but for all I know, it's happened before and I just didn't notice it because the card that mysteriously vanished wasn't one that someone else used Eradicate on. In any case, I closed and reopened Apprentice, and redid everything. That seemed to have fixed the problem.

    I'll just throw the other Shaman in the RFG zone right now, but for accuracy's sake I'm PM'ing Limited my library again, as I can't be sure there wasn't another card with the count off...

    Edit: Okay. I just sent a new PM to Limited. That was weird...

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