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Spiderman, I'm gonna refrain from answering your questions for the time being. You seem to go deep into a matter that was, from the beginning, supposed to relate 2 similar situations. It was so hard for me to explain the situation of the U.S., so I explained by degrading it into a smaller scale: a person and his family. Period. That was it.
MrX, my tone is simple, and I have been calm all the way through this mess until Mr. Arhar came in and: "you seem to care about the Arab world more," or "why are you here." I know it seems like just simple comments, but the second comment, I've been asked by other 3 members: Almindhra, Ura, and now Arhar. It's insulting. Of course, you probably don't know how it feels.
I don't care if Arhar has been "honest" about his opinion at all. The issue is that Gizmo (and even I) is criticized for the same things that Arhar has been seen as being "honest" for. Simply, Gizmo and I are having almost the exact things to say about the issue as Arhar, but we're not saying it in terms to befriend the U.S. (or insult it), just like Arhar is not stating his opinion as to befriend the world. Right there, that's unfairness. You treat Arhar as being "honest" not because he's honest, but becase he's on the U.S. side - if that's not the case for your treatment - then please justify all the recent criticizm of Gizmo, and even me - me, whom is criticized by Arhar himself, when simply I'm saying the same thing as he is, but from a complete 360-degree turn. If your idea of being honest and just is being on the U.S. side (that's what has been implied so clearly so far) than you are nothing but a person who is selfish. It's that simple.
Gizmo implied that he did not care about the U.S. lives lost, and you know what happened. Virus emails. Members losing their heads. Gizmo was being honest. He was "rewarded."
I said that war is not the answer (and that's basically all my aim), and suddenly "I'm anti-American", or a troublemaker. Questions like "why are you here" were arisin even. That was my reward for being honest.
Arhar says so clearly and openly that he doesn't care about the others life, not much anyway. He's been war-hungry from the beginning, and obviously, he does not care about all the innocent lives that are to die outside the U.S. Yet he's the "honest" man of us all. He's the one who stated is opinion, and you all are thankful for that. He's been "so calm about it," and you know why? Because you people don't criticize him as much and as hard. He simply says whatever he wants, than contradicts, than he even admits he's a hypocrite...but still, as long as he's not against the U.S. actions, then it's ok. He's honest.
Well, guess what boys: Gizmo and I are just as honest as Arhar - and even more so - and personally, though I respect Arhar and his opinions, I don't consider Arhar as being honest. Rise and shine. At least niether of Gizmo nor I have not said things that are of obvious (and painful) hypocracy. Truely, in my opinion, I like Gimzo's straightforward, unshifty honesty better than the twist-and-turn "honesty" of Arhar.
I believe that is one of the reasons Gizmo tries to restrain himself from speaking out. Many of us are saying the same thing, and taking the same actions. Bush's speech, and Bin Ladin's. Arhar, Gizmo, and I. Yet, only the U.S. side is the "right" side. Please don't tell me that "nobody stated that the U.S. side is the right side," because sure, it has not been stated, but watch me, Gizmo, or Lotus Mox say something so little that doesn't flow with the U.S., and you'll see a hell breaking loose. Bush can say "with us or against us," basically stating there there's no neutral opinion, there there's no other correct state of mind, yet Bush is the "great man." Bin Ladin says something of the same stupidity, yet he's the "evil." He's "satan." Arhar says he doesn't care much about lives outside the U.S., and that's not a matter of discussion. Gizmo says the same thing about U.S. citizens, and that's more than just a war.
You guys don't make sense to me at all anymore. The lines between just and unjust have been extreamly violated...
Apollo:But I can't really understand what life is like for people in Bosnia/Rwanda, and who they are, so it's hard to pay as much attention as I would to an American crisis.
What do you need to know? All that should be important is that they're human beings with hearts, souls, and feelings. Is that not enough to gain your sympathy? I'm sorry...