Tribal game 2

Discussion in 'Games Run By CPA Members' started by mythosx, Dec 8, 2005.

  1. Limited Yes, but we won't care

    I am glad BigBlue spoke up, because I was getting the same feeling. Seeing an Earthcraft doesn't exactly ease my mind (so i was relieved when reading Oversouls reply).

    I think Tribal decks should be about the tribe and not about a certain combo which happens to come with a bunch of chumpblockers.. I don't mean to attack you Oversoul, but last game was actually over when your combo went of and that pretty annoying if you see how much time it takes to play a couple of turns.

    As for the card questions, I would have to say that the Wall is not a bird.. just like Snake Basket is not a Snake and Hermit Druid is not an Squirrel. On the other hand, I really like the Ancestors so I don't have a problem with it.
    Mistform Ultimus seems like a weird trick, but this is 100% legal. It doesn't become a Bringer; it is a Bringer. It should have every creature type printed on it, but the font size would become too small (there is an 'official' version' somewhere on the MTG site)
  2. Oversoul The Tentacled One

    Well, I was trying not to give anything away in that post, but I guess I really don't mind. I'm probably going to be killed soon anyway, but we'll see...

    The real powerhouse in this deck is Skullclamp. The idea was to use it with a bunch of soldiers and soldier token generators to draw ridiculous amounts of cards. Earthcraft really allows it to rip through the deck. The deck does have an infinite combo, but it's a clunky one and it's really only ever going to hit the board if I get really lucky or if my Skullclamp draws into it and the lot of you have too many blockers for me to plow through. It's looking like that would have been my plan (since pretty much all of you are in a relatively defensible position), but at this point I don't have white mana and I don't have Skullclamp so I'm not liking my own odds. If I'd thought people would be all, "Oh no, it's Earthcraft, which means infinite combos. Ugh, I hate infinite combos" I would have held off on playing it, since it isn't even helping me right now as I almost did (not because I don't want to offend anyone's sensibilities about what a tribal game should be, but because if people think I'm on the verge of an infinite combo, they'll attack me and my only weapon right now is a Scepter).

    Personally, I'd kill me if I were you. But I'd also kill Spiderman (his tribe is apparently bringers and none of those guys are anything but trouble) and Mythosx (we all know how his deck works). And you probably can't mount an offensive against all three of us... :p

    Man, I wish I'd known about the Mistform Ultimus trick. I had a tribe I REALLY wanted to use, but couldn't reach the minimum. And no, I won't tell you what it is. I might try it next time.
  3. mythosx Legendary Creature-Human

    place holder post...sorry guys ive been real busy last couple of days. I will have a post up by tonight...
  4. mythosx Legendary Creature-Human

    Untap upkeep draw...

    done :mad:

    Spidey
    Life: 19
    Cards in Hand: 5
    Cards in Library: 45
    Permanents:

    (U) Forest
    (U) Island
    (U) Plains
    (U) Llanowar Wastes (T: add 1 to my mana pool. T: add B or G to my mana pool and take 1 dmg)
    (U) Shadowblood Ridge (1, T: Add BR to my mana pool).
    (U) Mossfire Valley (1, T: Add RG to my mana pool)

    (U) Bringer of the Blue Dawn (5/5, trample, at the beginning of my upkeep, I may draw 2 cards)
    (U) Mistform Ultimus (3/3, is all creature types, even when not in play, ~ may attack as though not a Wall) (4/4 thanks to Balthor, and get's +1/+1 for each creature blocking it)

    Graveyard: Polluted Delta, Sakura-Tribe Elder
    RFG:

    Oversoul
    Life: 17
    Cards in Hand: 6
    Cards in Library: 48
    Permanents:
    -Forestx2 (T, T)
    -Isochron Scepter (U, imprinted with Raise the Alarm)
    -Earthcraft
    -Veteran Explorer (1/1, kill it please)
    -3x (T, T, U) Soldier token, 1/1

    Graveyard:
    RFG: Raise the Alarm

    BigBlue
    Life: 20
    Cards in Hand: 5
    Cards in Library: 52
    Permanents:

    (TTTT) Plainsx4

    (U) Courier Hawk (1/2; Flying, Vigilance)
    (U) Ageless Sentinels (4/4; Flying Wall; When ~ blocks, it becomes a Giant Bird permanently, and is no longer a wall.)
    (S) Ageless Sentinels (4/4; Flying Wall; When ~ blocks, it becomes a Giant Bird permanently, and is no longer a wall.)

    Graveyard:
    RFG:

    Mythosx
    Life: 20
    Cards in Hand: 5
    Cards in Library: 130
    Permanents:

    (U,U) Forest x2
    (U) Mountain
    (U) Swamp
    (U) Plains
    (U) Island

    (U) Spined Sliver (2/2; Whenever a Sliver becomes blocked, that Sliver gets +1/+1 until end of turn for each creature blocking it.)

    Graveyard: Explosive Vegetation, Clot Sliver
    RFG:

    Limited
    Life: 20
    Cards in Hand: 5
    Cards in Library: 49
    Permanents:

    (TT) 2x Mountain
    (T) Swamp
    (T) Sulfurous Springs

    (U) Balthor the Stout
    (T) Jeska, Warrior Adept (3/1, first strike, haste, T: 1 damage to target crit or player) (4/2 thanks to Balthor)

    Graveyard: Undead Gladiator
  5. Limited Yes, but we won't care

    Untap Upkeep

    Pay B1, discard a card to return Undead Gladiator to my hand.. the card I discard is a Fiery Temper, so I'll pay R to deal three damage the the Spined Sliver..

    Draw

    Play Mountain

    Attack Mythosx with Balthor (if you don't have any responses to my upkeep)

    Spidey
    Life: 19
    Cards in Hand: 5
    Cards in Library: 45
    Permanents:

    (U) Forest
    (U) Island
    (U) Plains
    (U) Llanowar Wastes (T: add 1 to my mana pool. T: add B or G to my mana pool and take 1 dmg)
    (U) Shadowblood Ridge (1, T: Add BR to my mana pool).
    (U) Mossfire Valley (1, T: Add RG to my mana pool)

    (U) Bringer of the Blue Dawn (5/5, trample, at the beginning of my upkeep, I may draw 2 cards)
    (U) Mistform Ultimus (3/3, is all creature types, even when not in play, ~ may attack as though not a Wall) (4/4 thanks to Balthor, and get's +1/+1 for each creature blocking it)

    Graveyard: Polluted Delta, Sakura-Tribe Elder
    RFG:

    Oversoul
    Life: 17
    Cards in Hand: 6
    Cards in Library: 48
    Permanents:
    -Forestx2 (T, T)
    -Isochron Scepter (U, imprinted with Raise the Alarm)
    -Earthcraft
    -Veteran Explorer (1/1, kill it please)
    -3x (T, T, U) Soldier token, 1/1

    Graveyard:
    RFG: Raise the Alarm

    BigBlue
    Life: 20
    Cards in Hand: 5
    Cards in Library: 52
    Permanents:

    (TTTT) Plainsx4

    (U) Courier Hawk (1/2; Flying, Vigilance)
    (U) Ageless Sentinels (4/4; Flying Wall; When ~ blocks, it becomes a Giant Bird permanently, and is no longer a wall.)
    (S) Ageless Sentinels (4/4; Flying Wall; When ~ blocks, it becomes a Giant Bird permanently, and is no longer a wall.)

    Graveyard:
    RFG:

    Mythosx
    Life: 18?
    Cards in Hand: 5
    Cards in Library: 130
    Permanents:

    (U,U) Forest x2
    (U) Mountain
    (U) Swamp
    (U) Plains
    (U) Island

    Graveyard: Explosive Vegetation, Clot Sliver, Spined Sliver
    RFG:

    Limited
    Life: 20
    Cards in Hand: 5
    Cards in Library: 49
    Permanents:

    (UUT) 3x Mountain
    (T) Swamp
    (T) Sulfurous Springs

    (T) Balthor the Stout
    (U) Jeska, Warrior Adept (3/1, first strike, haste, T: 1 damage to target crit or player) (4/2 thanks to Balthor)

    Graveyard: Undead Gladiator
  6. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    I was also worried about Oversoul's Earthcraft, although it does seem you can draw into your combo since you just stated that Earthcraft and Skullclamp help you to "rip" through your deck :)

    I think strictly speaking, the creatures that are 1/3 of the deck should explicitly be of the same creature type right off the bat, but seeing how BB's still in the spirit of tribal, I don't have a problem with his deck. Especially since we're already a couple of turns into the game :)

    Waiting on any possible responses to Limited's upkeep play and him finishing his turn before taking mine.
  7. BigBlue Magic Jones

    I'm pretty sure your Upkeep will provoke a response, but I'm not sure it will come with playing a card or cards... :D
  8. mythosx Legendary Creature-Human

    take balthor....
  9. Limited Yes, but we won't care

  10. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    Untap, upkeep - draw 2 cards, Draw, Karplusan Forest, Done.

    Spidey
    Life: 19
    Cards in Hand: 7
    Cards in Library: 42
    Permanents:

    (U) Forest
    (U) Island
    (U) Plains
    (U) Llanowar Wastes (T: add 1 to my mana pool. T: add B or G to my mana pool and take 1 dmg)
    (U) Karplusan Forest (T: add 1 to my mana pool. T: add R or G to my mana pool and take 1 dmg)
    (U) Shadowblood Ridge (1, T: Add BR to my mana pool).
    (U) Mossfire Valley (1, T: Add RG to my mana pool)

    (U) Bringer of the Blue Dawn (5/5, trample, at the beginning of my upkeep, I may draw 2 cards)
    (U) Mistform Ultimus (3/3, is all creature types, even when not in play, ~ may attack as though not a Wall) (4/4 thanks to Balthor, and get's +1/+1 for each creature blocking it)

    Graveyard: Polluted Delta, Sakura-Tribe Elder
    RFG:

    Oversoul
    Life: 17
    Cards in Hand: 6
    Cards in Library: 48
    Permanents:
    -Forestx2 (T, T)
    -Isochron Scepter (U, imprinted with Raise the Alarm)
    -Earthcraft
    -Veteran Explorer (1/1, kill it please)
    -3x (T, T, U) Soldier token, 1/1

    Graveyard:
    RFG: Raise the Alarm

    BigBlue
    Life: 20
    Cards in Hand: 5
    Cards in Library: 52
    Permanents:

    (TTTT) Plainsx4

    (U) Courier Hawk (1/2; Flying, Vigilance)
    (U) Ageless Sentinels (4/4; Flying Wall; When ~ blocks, it becomes a Giant Bird permanently, and is no longer a wall.)
    (S) Ageless Sentinels (4/4; Flying Wall; When ~ blocks, it becomes a Giant Bird permanently, and is no longer a wall.)

    Graveyard:
    RFG:

    Mythosx
    Life: 18?
    Cards in Hand: 5
    Cards in Library: 130
    Permanents:

    (U,U) Forest x2
    (U) Mountain
    (U) Swamp
    (U) Plains
    (U) Island

    Graveyard: Explosive Vegetation, Clot Sliver, Spined Sliver
    RFG:

    Limited
    Life: 20
    Cards in Hand: 5
    Cards in Library: 49
    Permanents:

    (UUT) 3x Mountain
    (T) Swamp
    (T) Sulfurous Springs

    (T) Balthor the Stout
    (U) Jeska, Warrior Adept (3/1, first strike, haste, T: 1 damage to target crit or player) (4/2 thanks to Balthor)

    Graveyard: Undead Gladiator
  11. Oversoul The Tentacled One

    At the end of Spidey's turn, I'll tap my last two untapped creatures to untap my lands, then activate Isochron Scepter again for two more tokens.

    *Hits the top of library*

    Untap, upkeep, topdeck. Whew. I'll drop a Plains. I'll tap my two Forests to activate Isochron Scepter for two more tokens. I'll tap one of the tokens to uptap a Forest, then tap out to play Alaborn Musketeer and then tap two more tokens to play a second Alaborn Musketeer, then I'll tap one more token and play Alaborn Zealot. Done.

    Spidey
    Life: 19
    Cards in Hand: 7
    Cards in Library: 42
    Permanents:

    (U) Forest
    (U) Island
    (U) Plains
    (U) Llanowar Wastes (T: add 1 to my mana pool. T: add B or G to my mana pool and take 1 dmg)
    (U) Karplusan Forest (T: add 1 to my mana pool. T: add R or G to my mana pool and take 1 dmg)
    (U) Shadowblood Ridge (1, T: Add BR to my mana pool).
    (U) Mossfire Valley (1, T: Add RG to my mana pool)

    (U) Bringer of the Blue Dawn (5/5, trample, at the beginning of my upkeep, I may draw 2 cards)
    (U) Mistform Ultimus (3/3, is all creature types, even when not in play, ~ may attack as though not a Wall) (4/4 thanks to Balthor, and get's +1/+1 for each creature blocking it)

    Graveyard: Polluted Delta, Sakura-Tribe Elder
    RFG:

    Oversoul
    Life: 17
    Cards in Hand: 6
    Cards in Library: 48
    Permanents:
    -Forestx2 (U, U)
    -Isochron Scepter (U, imprinted with Raise the Alarm)
    -Earthcraft
    -Veteran Explorer (U, 1/1, kill it please)
    -5x (U, U, U, U, U) Soldier token, 1/1

    Graveyard:
    RFG: Raise the Alarm

    BigBlue
    Life: 20
    Cards in Hand: 5
    Cards in Library: 52
    Permanents:

    (TTTT) Plainsx4

    (U) Courier Hawk (1/2; Flying, Vigilance)
    (U) Ageless Sentinels (4/4; Flying Wall; When ~ blocks, it becomes a Giant Bird permanently, and is no longer a wall.)
    (S) Ageless Sentinels (4/4; Flying Wall; When ~ blocks, it becomes a Giant Bird permanently, and is no longer a wall.)

    Graveyard:
    RFG:

    Mythosx
    Life: 18?
    Cards in Hand: 5
    Cards in Library: 130
    Permanents:

    (U,U) Forest x2
    (U) Mountain
    (U) Swamp
    (U) Plains
    (U) Island

    Graveyard: Explosive Vegetation, Clot Sliver, Spined Sliver
    RFG:

    Limited
    Life: 20
    Cards in Hand: 5
    Cards in Library: 49
    Permanents:

    (UUT) 3x Mountain
    (T) Swamp
    (T) Sulfurous Springs

    (T) Balthor the Stout
    (U) Jeska, Warrior Adept (3/1, first strike, haste, T: 1 damage to target crit or player) (4/2 thanks to Balthor)

    Graveyard: Undead Gladiator
  12. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    Dude, can you edit your part of the stats to show your turn? I got confused with what's tapped and what's not.
  13. BigBlue Magic Jones

    Here here.... Please make sure your play area reflects what your play area should look like, it's hard enough playing without the cards in front of me, but when cards are in the wrong zone it just doesn't make any sense to me...

    Limited, isn't your Gladiator in your hand? And fiery temper in your Graveyard?
  14. Limited Yes, but we won't care

    I think this is it..

    Spidey
    Life: 19
    Cards in Hand: 7
    Cards in Library: 42
    Permanents:

    (U) Forest
    (U) Island
    (U) Plains
    (U) Llanowar Wastes (T: add 1 to my mana pool. T: add B or G to my mana pool and take 1 dmg)
    (U) Karplusan Forest (T: add 1 to my mana pool. T: add R or G to my mana pool and take 1 dmg)
    (U) Shadowblood Ridge (1, T: Add BR to my mana pool).
    (U) Mossfire Valley (1, T: Add RG to my mana pool)

    (U) Bringer of the Blue Dawn (5/5, trample, at the beginning of my upkeep, I may draw 2 cards)
    (U) Mistform Ultimus (3/3, is all creature types, even when not in play, ~ may attack as though not a Wall) (4/4 thanks to Balthor)

    Graveyard: Polluted Delta, Sakura-Tribe Elder
    RFG:

    Oversoul
    Life: 17
    Cards in Hand: 6
    Cards in Library: 47
    Permanents:
    -Forestx2 (T, T)
    -Plains (T)
    -Isochron Scepter (T, imprinted with Raise the Alarm)
    -Earthcraft
    -Veteran Explorer (U, 1/1, kill it please)
    -7x (U, U, U, T T, T, T) Soldier token, 1/1
    -2x (U) Alaborn Musketeer
    -(U) Alaborn Zealot

    Graveyard:
    RFG: Raise the Alarm

    BigBlue
    Life: 20
    Cards in Hand: 5
    Cards in Library: 52
    Permanents:

    (TTTT) Plainsx4

    (U) Courier Hawk (1/2; Flying, Vigilance)
    (U) Ageless Sentinels (4/4; Flying Wall; When ~ blocks, it becomes a Giant Bird permanently, and is no longer a wall.)
    (S) Ageless Sentinels (4/4; Flying Wall; When ~ blocks, it becomes a Giant Bird permanently, and is no longer a wall.)

    Graveyard:
    RFG:

    Mythosx
    Life: 18?
    Cards in Hand: 5
    Cards in Library: 130
    Permanents:

    (U,U) Forest x2
    (U) Mountain
    (U) Swamp
    (U) Plains
    (U) Island

    Graveyard: Explosive Vegetation, Clot Sliver, Spined Sliver
    RFG:

    Limited
    Life: 20
    Cards in Hand: 5
    Cards in Library: 47
    Permanents:

    (UUT) 3x Mountain
    (T) Swamp
    (T) Sulfurous Springs

    (T) Balthor the Stout
    (U) Jeska, Warrior Adept (3/1, first strike, haste, T: 1 damage to target crit or player) (4/2 thanks to Balthor)

    Graveyard: Fiery Temper
  15. BigBlue Magic Jones

    Thanks Limited, I think you are correct other than # of cards in his hand, I think it should be 4, not 6...

    Untap, Draw, Play Soulcatcher, attack Spiderman for 1, Done after that.

    Spidey
    Life: 19 (18?)
    Cards in Hand: 7
    Cards in Library: 42
    Permanents:

    (U) Forest
    (U) Island
    (U) Plains
    (U) Llanowar Wastes (T: add 1 to my mana pool. T: add B or G to my mana pool and take 1 dmg)
    (U) Karplusan Forest (T: add 1 to my mana pool. T: add R or G to my mana pool and take 1 dmg)
    (U) Shadowblood Ridge (1, T: Add BR to my mana pool).
    (U) Mossfire Valley (1, T: Add RG to my mana pool)

    (U) Bringer of the Blue Dawn (5/5, trample, at the beginning of my upkeep, I may draw 2 cards)
    (U) Mistform Ultimus (3/3, is all creature types, even when not in play, ~ may attack as though not a Wall) (4/4 thanks to Balthor)

    Graveyard: Polluted Delta, Sakura-Tribe Elder
    RFG:

    Oversoul
    Life: 17
    Cards in Hand: 6 (4?)
    Cards in Library: 47
    Permanents:
    -Forestx2 (T, T)
    -Plains (T)
    -Isochron Scepter (T, imprinted with Raise the Alarm)
    -Earthcraft
    -Veteran Explorer (U, 1/1, kill it please)
    -7x (U, U, U, T T, T, T) Soldier token, 1/1
    -2x (U) Alaborn Musketeer (2/1; May block as though it has flying)
    -(U) Alaborn Zealot (1/1; When ~this blocks, destroy it and the creature it blocked)

    Graveyard:
    RFG: Raise the Alarm

    BigBlue
    Life: 20
    Cards in Hand: 5
    Cards in Library: 51
    Permanents:

    (TTUU) Plainsx4

    (U) Courier Hawk (1/2; Flying; Bird; Vigilance)
    (U) Ageless Sentinels (4/4; Flying Wall; When ~ blocks, it becomes a Giant Bird permanently, and is no longer a wall.)
    (U) Ageless Sentinels (4/4; Flying Wall; When ~ blocks, it becomes a Giant Bird permanently, and is no longer a wall.)
    (S) Soulcatcher (1/1; Bird Soldier; Flying; Whenever a creature with flying goes to a GY, put a +1/+1 Counter on Soulcatcher) (0 counters)

    Graveyard:
    RFG:

    Mythosx
    Life: 18?
    Cards in Hand: 5
    Cards in Library: 130
    Permanents:

    (U,U) Forest x2
    (U) Mountain
    (U) Swamp
    (U) Plains
    (U) Island

    Graveyard: Explosive Vegetation, Clot Sliver, Spined Sliver
    RFG:

    Limited
    Life: 20
    Cards in Hand: 5
    Cards in Library: 47
    Permanents:

    (UUT) 3x Mountain
    (T) Swamp
    (T) Sulfurous Springs

    (T) Balthor the Stout
    (U) Jeska, Warrior Adept (3/1, first strike, haste, T: 1 damage to target crit or player) (4/2 thanks to Balthor)

    Graveyard: Fiery Temper
  16. mythosx Legendary Creature-Human

    EOT

    Play a quick sliver

    any responses before i take my turn?

    Spidey
    Life: 19 (18?)
    Cards in Hand: 7
    Cards in Library: 42
    Permanents:

    (U) Forest
    (U) Island
    (U) Plains
    (U) Llanowar Wastes (T: add 1 to my mana pool. T: add B or G to my mana pool and take 1 dmg)
    (U) Karplusan Forest (T: add 1 to my mana pool. T: add R or G to my mana pool and take 1 dmg)
    (U) Shadowblood Ridge (1, T: Add BR to my mana pool).
    (U) Mossfire Valley (1, T: Add RG to my mana pool)

    (U) Bringer of the Blue Dawn (5/5, trample, at the beginning of my upkeep, I may draw 2 cards)
    (U) Mistform Ultimus (3/3, is all creature types, even when not in play, ~ may attack as though not a Wall) (4/4 thanks to Balthor)

    Graveyard: Polluted Delta, Sakura-Tribe Elder
    RFG:

    Oversoul
    Life: 17
    Cards in Hand: 6 (4?)
    Cards in Library: 47
    Permanents:
    -Forestx2 (T, T)
    -Plains (T)
    -Isochron Scepter (T, imprinted with Raise the Alarm)
    -Earthcraft
    -Veteran Explorer (U, 1/1, kill it please)
    -7x (U, U, U, T T, T, T) Soldier token, 1/1
    -2x (U) Alaborn Musketeer (2/1; May block as though it has flying)
    -(U) Alaborn Zealot (1/1; When ~this blocks, destroy it and the creature it blocked)

    Graveyard:
    RFG: Raise the Alarm

    BigBlue
    Life: 20
    Cards in Hand: 5
    Cards in Library: 51
    Permanents:

    (TTUU) Plainsx4

    (U) Courier Hawk (1/2; Flying; Bird; Vigilance)
    (U) Ageless Sentinels (4/4; Flying Wall; When ~ blocks, it becomes a Giant Bird permanently, and is no longer a wall.)
    (U) Ageless Sentinels (4/4; Flying Wall; When ~ blocks, it becomes a Giant Bird permanently, and is no longer a wall.)
    (S) Soulcatcher (1/1; Bird Soldier; Flying; Whenever a creature with flying goes to a GY, put a +1/+1 Counter on Soulcatcher) (0 counters)

    Graveyard:
    RFG:

    Mythosx
    Life: 18
    Cards in Hand: 4
    Cards in Library: 130
    Permanents:

    (U,U) Forest x2
    (U) Mountain
    (U) Swamp
    (U) Plains
    (U) Island

    Graveyard: Explosive Vegetation, Clot Sliver, Spined Sliver
    RFG:

    Limited
    Life: 20
    Cards in Hand: 5
    Cards in Library: 47
    Permanents:

    (UUT) 3x Mountain
    (T) Swamp
    (T) Sulfurous Springs

    (T) Balthor the Stout
    (U) Jeska, Warrior Adept (3/1, first strike, haste, T: 1 damage to target crit or player) (4/2 thanks to Balthor)

    Graveyard: Fiery Temper
  17. Oversoul The Tentacled One

    I posted that in a hurry again. My hand size should be 3.
  18. Limited Yes, but we won't care

    Tap Jeska to shoot the Quicksliver
  19. mythosx Legendary Creature-Human

    play clot sliver as an instant and regen the quick sliver....
  20. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    I take my dmg from BB and no responses to the Sliver/Jeska plays.

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