real thing: Well, Apollo pretty much said what I would have said to each of your points, except I have to add to "We are all good players"? This statement just smacks of arrogance. While y'all may be good players, at no point in this thread did YJ specifically attack your playing skills (and if he beat you a couple of times anyway, does that not make him a "good player"? Or are you going to pull out the 'ol "I was testing a deck" line?) Again, I'm not saying you guys collectively are NOT good players, I'm saying this has absolutely NO relevance. "Deep hate"? I have yet to see where YJ consistently spews out filth and curses your name or Team CMU (Evil Shop Guru is another matter...) Again, in the first post he said he likes Team CMU to come and play against. Let's not generalize and try to fabricate accusations that just aren't there. Once again, it seems you're trying to expand the whole situation and not getting down to the reason of the rant (which is what part of this forum is intended for) which is allegedly a tourney was held late because of perceived special treatment for YOU by the shop. Gizmo: I disagree, I don't read YJ "clearly being intimidated" in that statement. What I DO read is that allegedly real thing has received special treatment before and just provided more evidence to support YJ's initial reason for the rant.