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Nightstalkers
Guest
try adding haste to her to give that winning boost
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EricBess
Guest
Oh, one other thing on Phage. The "you lose" ability of Phage is a triggered ability. As such, it can be stopped by that new counterspell that counters a triggered ability. 
I got totally wasted by someone playing a Phage/Elf Deck. They used that one Elf that you tap to get mana of any one colour for every elf in play. He only had a couple (including a 'Taunter), but unforuntaly, I had three in play. She came out on turn three. On turn four, he attacked w/ Phage and and the 'Tauter. I lost - boy, did I lose...
-Ferret
"She's bad - real bad..."
-Ferret
"She's bad - real bad..."
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Skyrider
Guest
heck if you play B/G you can just drop a Primal Frenzy, or a Run Wild, or any number of other trample giving cards on Phage, pump and win.
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train
Guest
I couldn't have mentioned a better point EB...
Ferret - sounds like you need an Engineered Plague!...
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Nightstalkers
Guest
That is why you save those two islands untapped and the counterspell in hand...
Buying cards from this new set is now something I look forward to doing now that I am out of that hole in the clay.
Buying cards from this new set is now something I look forward to doing now that I am out of that hole in the clay.
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train
Guest
It's an old basic - but still works...
Fog... or Tangle...
Fog... or Tangle...
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NorrYtt
Guest
You can cycle a Dirge of Dread to break through with Phage. Even if you don't, you must understand she is the most threatening creature ever. Your opponent cannot let her through.
How about simply regenerating her every turn with something like Yavimaya Hollow? I can't think of a decent black regenerating card...
How about simply regenerating her every turn with something like Yavimaya Hollow? I can't think of a decent black regenerating card...
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zendahl
Guest
What about donating her to your opponet? Would that make them loose?
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EricBess
Guest
No, because Donate just switches controllers. It doesn't make her come into play.
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Nightstalkers
Guest
Donate goes with illusions of graneur though...
just trying to help
just trying to help
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Skyrider
Guest
drop a custody battle on it
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Nightstalkers
Guest
Ha! Isn't the world in enough turmoil as it is without bringing the courts into this?
Oh, you mean the card...
Oh, you mean the card...
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Shiro, Time Devourer
Guest
FD on Phage
Donate FD
Get rid of Phage somehow
Have it return to opponent's control and watch him automatically lose.
Donate FD
Get rid of Phage somehow
Have it return to opponent's control and watch him automatically lose.
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Skyrider
Guest
Wouldn't donating phage just do the trick by itself? It would count as "coming into play".
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Nightstalkers
Guest
no it wouldn't! the same goes with Illusions of Grandeur, if you donate your illusions to your opponent, he has to pay the comulative upkeep of (2) or he loses 20 life without the benefit of gaining the 20 in the first place.
Let me put it this way, if you donate it, where does it go? it never left play, so it cannot come back into play.
Damn! I had to explain that to a judge once.
Let me put it this way, if you donate it, where does it go? it never left play, so it cannot come back into play.
Damn! I had to explain that to a judge once.
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Skyrider
Guest
k thx for the clearification. I wasn't sure
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Rooser
Guest
I'd also like to suggest that giving her first strike is mighty cruel too, since all the new stoning effects are worded to work at the time of the damage going on the stack, not at the end of combat, (Like with Thicket Basilisk and Cockatrice).
3.0
3.0
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Nightstalkers
Guest
If I were given a choice b/w first strike and trample, I'd stick with trample