Fifth Dawn Spoiler

Discussion in 'General CPA Stuff' started by Shiro, Time Devourer, Apr 22, 2004.

  1. Shiro Time Devourer I have returned!

    http://cards.mtgnews.com/Find/Spoilers/FD.html

    MTGn00.. I mean, News has the 5D spoiler.

    They printed a strictly-better Dorami Blast Corps! As a common! :D

    The Starlets are coming! The Starlets are coming! ^_____^

    :p

    Maybe next, they'll print Penitent as an uncommon in one of the Kamigawa sets.
  2. Nightstalkers Creature — Nightstalker

    Meh... I view it as more of a mini version of a Ball Lightning.

    Plunge into Darkness sounds like a keeper to me.


    On Crucible of Worlds, you have to remove the cards you played from your graveyard from the game after you played them (in the instance of playing instants or sorceries that is)?
  3. DeathMaster666 In Defiance of Existance

    I don't believe so. The Mini-Ball Lightning sounds cool. I can't wait to see the art. I probably want a foil one ^^. Maybe they'll reprint this in 9th to replace Ball Lightning.
  4. EricBess Active Member

    Helps to read the card, NS :D It only lets you play lands
  5. Reverend Love New Member

    The Beacon of Immortality was just absolutely nuts.

    Razormane Masticore looks to be an initial chase card....got my doubts as to really how good it is though.

    They reprinted Relic Barrier..HA! :D

    Overall looks pretty interesting.
  6. Shiro Time Devourer I have returned!

    The Blast Corps was R, with P/T and abilities identical, and you removed it from the game.

    This is better in rarity and restriction than DBC. And that was meant as a Ball Lite as well.

    In before...

    Vulshok Firebrand 2R

    Creature- Human Soldier Barbarian

    Uncommon

    Haste

    Discard a card from your hand: ~ gets +3/+0 until end of turn. At end of turn, put a -1/-1 counter on ~.

    Forged by fire, tempered by blood.
    1/3

    ...yo

    I wish this was in 5D.
  7. orgg Administrator

    I've voiced my opinions on the 'new ball lightning' elsewhere.

    The card is not that great. A first-turn Lightning Bolt is strictly card disadvantage, and this is even worse! The best it can do is get a bad player to kill it with more than one of his creatures, gaining some card advantage in the process...

    ...first turn bolt to the head just isn't good, and neither is this.

    Sadly, so many people don't realize that.
  8. Notepad Seffy Sefro

    The elemental is a nice card. Not good on its own--technically a lot worse than a lightning bolt, but it has merits for casual (and just maybe standard) play, because of all the bounties red and artifacts can get from disposable critters. I like the thing. A sure-fire hit for my decks along with Bloodlust or the new Mirrodin version. :D
  9. Istanbul Sucker MCs call me sire.

    I honestly don't think it's bad at all. Proportionately, it's better than Ball Lightning.

    Ball Lightning - 3 mana for 6 damage - Ratio: 2 damage per mana
    Spark Elemental - 1 mana for 3 damage - Ratio: 3 damaga per mana
  10. orgg Administrator

    Isty, are you forgetting the card itself?

    Ball Lightning is judged as a one-shot direct damage spell.

    You pay: One Card and Three Mana for Six Damage.

    The new one you pay for the same amount: Two Cards and Two Mana for Six Damage.

    To get a measly one red mana, you're throwing away a whole nother card.

    As a finisher to the head, it might not matter, but throughout the game, I JUST don't think Small Lightning is worth it.
  11. Istanbul Sucker MCs call me sire.

    Orgg, you can't judge this as half of a Ball Lightning. Judge it on its own merits.

    No, it's not Ball Lightning. It was never meant to be. It's a smaller, not-quite-as-broken version.
  12. Nightstalkers Creature — Nightstalker

    Meh, I say its a nice card to have around.

    1.) its a first turn 3 dmg critter

    2.) if your opponent doesn't block and kill it, you can always sac it to something else to do direct dmg

    3.) 3 mini's (3 mana) = 9 dmg, 1 biggie (3 mana) = 6 dmg
  13. Reverend Love New Member

    Go ahead and mumble about card advantage when you see this thing in a hardcore burn deck.

    4 Spark Elementals
    4 Ball Lightning
    4 Blistering Firecats
    4 Lightning Bolts
    4 Incinerates

    I'd play with this.
  14. DeathMaster666 In Defiance of Existance

    Don't forget 4x Chain Lightning in that.
  15. Oversoul The Tentacled One

    And Fireblasts of course, right?
  16. Reverend Love New Member

    Fireblast...how could I have forgotten that one!

    4 Spark Elementals
    4 Ball Lightning
    4 Blistering Firecats
    4 Lightning Bolts
    4 Incinerates
    4 Chain Lightning
    4 Fireblast

    Lots of card disadvantage..but whole heaping loads of PAIN!
  17. Notepad Seffy Sefro

    ...and Fork! Can never forget Fork!!! And at that point, maybe an Isochron Scepter. ;)

    I have a deck that runs like this. With so many disposable critters, Earthquake is a good damage+sweeper card. :D
  18. Azreal the Soulmaster Sorrow's Rhapsody

    if you're running 4x spark elementals, ball lightnings, and blistering firecats you definetly run 4x Skullclamp, cause bash you for 3,6, or 7 then clamp to draw two cards off of a creature thats going to die anyway is kinda good.
  19. Reverend Love New Member

    Excellent point! So we'll take powerful cards which normally imply card disadvantage and with one broken card drawer shore up burns usual weakness, of blowing it's wad then running out of tricks.

    I also threw in Slith Firewalker as his casting cost fits right in within a Spark Elemental and Ball Lightning..with big poppa blistering firecat being the closer...all of course clampable.

    4 Slith Firewalker
    4 Spark Elementals
    4 Ball Lightning
    4 Blistering Firecats
    4 Lightning Bolts
    4 Incinerates
    4 Chain Lightning
    4 Fireblast
    1 Earthquake
    1 Fork
    4 Skullclamp
    2 Barbarian Ring
    20 Mountains
  20. Notepad Seffy Sefro

    nedd to up the critter count if you're gonna go with clamp. So, add in 4x Skizzik! ;)

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