ByoS: Build your own Standard

Discussion in 'Games Run By CPA Members' started by BigBlue, Mar 12, 2009.

  1. Oversoul The Tentacled One

    Two set blocks, you mean, right? Yeah, there was Lorwyn Block Constructed and there was Shadowmoor Block Constructed.

    It's 310 cards. The standalones up through Onslaught are bigger by 40 cards, but Mirrodin, CoK, and Ravnica are smaller at 306 cards, while Lorwyn, Shadowmoor, and Shards of Alara are smaller still (and Time Spiral is much bigger, I'm guessing because of all the timeshifted cards). If it's an expansion to a standalone set, what's the standalone set?
  2. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    It's unblocked, unless you want to call it an expansion to Alpha/Beta. Just because it's huge doesn't mean it's a standalone. It was a time before sets were nailed down like they're done today. Seriously, most of the cards in there are going to be useless anyways (um, band with others?).
  3. BigBlue Magic Jones

    Fixing the Lorwyn/Shadowmoor blocks...

    I figured Legends was such a large set in comparison to most expansions that it should maybe count as a standalone for the purposes of this... but, like Spidey says, it's a pisspoor expansion either way and probably won't be selected...

    I meant to add I was excluding Chronicals too...

    So I'll update that in my list.
  4. Al0ysiusHWWW It's Good to Rock Out

    Is it even possible to do this without picking a set with Dark Ritual?
  5. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    Sure, anything past Mercadian Masques.
  6. BigBlue Magic Jones

    I'm ready whenever Modus is... I would post my set, but I suppose he could disrupt it... Or maybe not... I don't want to influence his decision.

    Oh... I guess this sorta matters... We are going to play this as a Round Robin, not just a MP free-for-all... right?
  7. Oversoul The Tentacled One

    If it's an expansion to 3rd Edition (Revised, since that was the "core" set at the time Legends was released), then isn't Mirage an expansion to 4th Edition? Okay, so I also doubt that anyone will pick it for this anyway, but I can't see how "just because it's huge doesn't mean it's a standalone" is an argument for it being a non-standalone. It being of comparable size to so-called stanalone sets and being printed before the current system of card cycles was established indicates to me that it being in the same category as other sets of similar size rather than the category with sets that are much smaller would be the default assumption. What do other "standalone" sets have that Legends lacks, other than smaller sets printed after it that follow a theme?

    Yeah, I guess that matters a lot for deckbuilding. I'd go with round-robin.
  8. Ransac CPA Trash Man

    Your order is almost right..... just reverse it. Highest picks first, not last.


    Ransac, cpa trash man
  9. Al0ysiusHWWW It's Good to Rock Out

    I'm all about the Round Robin

    Yeah, but that seems fairly unlikely anyway.
  10. Oversoul The Tentacled One

    So the actual pick order would look like this?

    Standalone 1: Spiderman
    Expansion 1: DarthFerret
    Expansion 2: Oversoul
    Core: Al0ysiusHWWW
    Expansion 3: Ransac
    Expansion 4: Melkor
    Expansion 5: BigBlue
    Standalone 2: Modus
  11. Modus Pwnens Eligible for User Title

    Ah good, I still have time then :)
  12. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    Um, no, because Mirage was specifically designed to be a standalone expansion and in fact replace "the core set"; it was in design development at the same time as Ice Age (which I think was being designed when Alpha/Beta was released; if not then, then right after) - several WOTC articles have mentioned this.

    By the same token, just because it being huge and comparable size to a standalone doesn't mean it's a standalone.

    Ice Age and Mirage were specifically designed as standalone because of certain characteristics, most of which escape me, but being playable in starters, containing certain "staple" common cards like Disenchant, red burn come to mind. Additionally, it's mentioned on Crystal Keep that
    Round-robin sounds good, I wanna play everyone.

    Why? There are lots of great sets past MM.

    If I'm picking first, I'll pick Tempest as my standalone.
  13. Ransac CPA Trash Man

    Standalone 1: Tempest (Spiderman)
    Expansion 1: DarthFerret
    Expansion 2: Oversoul
    Core: Al0ysiusHWWW
    Expansion 3: Ransac
    Expansion 4: Melkor
    Expansion 5: BigBlue
    Standalone 2: Modus

    Excluded from Draft: Stronghold, Exodus


    Ransac, cpa trash man
  14. DarthFerret Evil Sith Weasel

    I am gonna pick Urza's Legacy as my expansion.

    Standalone 1: Tempest (Spiderman)
    Expansion 1: Urza's Legacy (DarthFerret)
    Expansion 2: Oversoul
    Core: Al0ysiusHWWW
    Expansion 3: Ransac
    Expansion 4: Melkor
    Expansion 5: BigBlue
    Standalone 2: Modus

    Excluded from Draft: Stronghold, Exodus, Urza's Saga, Urza's Destiny
  15. BigBlue Magic Jones

    Wow, the first 2 sets have no cards in common...
  16. BigBlue Magic Jones

    Blocks:

    Ice Age - Alliances, Coldsnap
    Mirage - Visions, Weatherlight
    Tempest - Stronghold, Exodus
    Urza's Saga - Urza's Legacy, Urza's Destiny
    Mercadian Masques - Nemesis, Prophecy
    Invasion - Planeshift, Apocolypse
    Odyssey - Torment, Judgement
    Onslaught - Legions, Scourge
    Mirrodin - Darksteel, Fifth Dawn
    Champions of Kamigawa - Betrayers of Kamigawa, Saviors of Kamigawa
    Ravnica: City of Guilds - Guildpact, Dissension
    Time Spiral - Planar Chaos, Future Sight
    Lorwyn - Morningtide
    Shadowmoor - Eventide
    Shards of Alara - Conflux

    Core sets are Alpha, Beta/Unlimited, Revised, 4th Edition, 5th Edition, 6th Edition, 7th Edition, 8th Edition, 9th Edition, or 10th Edition (X)

    Unblocked expansoins are - Arabian Nights, Antiquities, Legends, The Dark, Fallen Empires, and Homelands
  17. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

  18. BigBlue Magic Jones

    I also noticed a ton of power cards already available...

    When we're done picking sets, I'm going to post a complete cardlist by color.
  19. Al0ysiusHWWW It's Good to Rock Out

    Oh boo. I was hoping for some Exodus Rec-Sur.
  20. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

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