Bull in a China Shop

Discussion in 'Games Run By CPA Members' started by EricBess, Nov 26, 2007.

  1. Ransac CPA Trash Man

    I'll take Green 7. I'd also like to point out that I have no clue what I'm doing. :p

    train: Green 4; Money x 2; Pass
    Spiderman: Blue 3; Blue 7; Pass
    Mooseman: Blue 4; Green 3; Money x 2; Pass
    Melkor:Green 3; Red 7; Pass
    Ransac: Blue 4; Green 7; Pass

    China: Blue 4, Green 6
    Bulls: 2 Green, All Blue, 2 any



    Ramsac. cpa trash man
  2. EricBess Active Member

    I've only played the game a few times, so I'm hardly up on the best strategy. From what I've played, I suspect that taking the 7 green will put you in a position where you will be tempted to play your pass early. The question is whether taking it effectively just keeps anyone else from getting it and, if so, is that alone worth it?

    I haven't seen any sign of train, so I'll take the green 6.

    train: Green 4; Green 6; Money; Pass
    Spiderman: Blue 3; Blue 7; Pass
    Mooseman: Blue 4; Green 3; Money x 2; Pass
    Melkor:Green 3; Red 7; Pass
    Ransac: Blue 4; Green 7; Pass

    China: Blue 4
    Bulls: 2 Green, All Blue, 2 any
  3. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    Take the 2 Green Bull

    train: Green 4; Green 6; Money; Pass
    Spiderman: Blue 3; Blue 7; Money; Pass
    Mooseman: Blue 4; Green 3; Money x 2; Pass
    Melkor:Green 3; Red 7; Pass
    Ransac: Blue 4; Green 7; Pass

    China: Blue 4
    Bulls: All Blue, 2 any
  4. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    Does the "2 any" bull mean any two of anybodies or just the player taking that bull?
  5. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    Just your own

  6. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    Take the Blue 4, not much choice here.......

    train: Green 4; Green 6; Money; Pass
    Spiderman: Blue 3; Blue 7; Money; Pass
    Mooseman: Blue 4; Blue 4; Green 3; Money ; Pass
    Melkor:Green 3; Red 7; Pass
    Ransac: Blue 4; Green 7; Pass

    China:
    Bulls: All Blue, 2 any
  7. EricBess Active Member

    You could always pass... ;)

    I dealt out the next set of cards before setting off to work today because I figured we would need them. If we run out of bulls, it will need to wait until I get home... Melkor and Ransac will have to take bulls or pass anyway, but what china is available could influence things...

    train: Green 4; Green 6; Money; Pass
    Spiderman: Blue 3; Blue 7; Money; Pass
    Mooseman: Blue 4; Blue 4; Green 3; Money ; Pass
    Melkor:Green 3; Red 7; Pass
    Ransac: Blue 4; Green 7; Pass

    China: Red 5, Red 5, Red 7, Blue 5, Green 5
    Bulls: All Blue, 2 any
  8. Melkor Active Member

    I'll take the All Blue bull
  9. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    Updated

    train: Green 4; Green 6; Money; Pass
    Spiderman: Blue 3; Blue 7; Money; Pass
    Mooseman: Blue 4; Blue 4; Green 3; Money ; Pass
    Melkor:Green 3; Red 7; Money; Pass
    Ransac: Blue 4; Green 7; Pass

    China: Red 5, Red 5, Red 7, Blue 5, Green 5
    Bulls: 2 any
  10. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    Actually "ALL Blue" means everyone's blue china... right?

    train: Green 4; Green 6; Money; Pass
    Spiderman: Money; Pass
    Mooseman: Green 3; Money ; Pass
    Melkor:Green 3; Red 7; Money; Pass
    Ransac: Green 7; Pass

    China: Red 5, Red 5, Red 7, Blue 5, Green 5
    Bulls: 2 any
  11. EricBess Active Member

  12. Ransac CPA Trash Man

    I'll use my Pass. :D


    Ransac, cpa trash man
  13. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    Update the board you scrubs..... well, at least the Trashman.....

    train: Green 4; Green 6; Money; Pass
    Spiderman: Money; Pass
    Mooseman: Green 3; Money ; Pass
    Melkor:Green 3; Red 7; Money; Pass
    Ransac: Green 7;

    China: Red 5, Red 5, Red 7, Blue 5, Green 5
    Bulls: 2 any
  14. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    Well that sucks... I know even less what I'm doing than Ransac...
  15. EricBess Active Member

    Using a pass early can be good or bad. Part of the issue right now is that we still don't know which bulls are going to be dealt out next and that can have a huge impact on what you get to keep or have to throw away before the scoring.

    Regardless, My best bet is the Red 7, since either an "All even" or "All Green" will decimate my hand anyway. I think at this point, train has been gone long enough that I'll just take over. If he comes back, we can switch back.

    I'm not dealing out cards until they are needed, so I won't have any advantage over anyone else.

    EricBess: Green 4; Green 6; Red 7; Pass
    Spiderman: Money; Pass
    Mooseman: Green 3; Money ; Pass
    Melkor:Green 3; Red 7; Money; Pass
    Ransac: Green 7;

    China: Red 5, Red 5, Blue 5, Green 5
    Bulls: 2 any

    Spidey - One thing to keep in mind is that the bulls won't shuffle back in until they have all been used. There are a total of 30 bull cards and 10 of those are "all", with 2 of each (all red, blue, green, odd, even), so if one has already been played, it is less likely to come up again.

    One other thing I've noticed that might help...It's helpful to look at not only what position you are in, but where everyone else is also and what china/bull they are likely to take.
  16. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    What dictates dealing out more bulls/china?
    How does someone win? When does the game end?
  17. EricBess Active Member

    5 more get dealt out whenever the pile becomes empty. So, as soon as the "2 any" bull gets taken, 5 more bulls will be dealt.

    Scoring happens after every 10 china have been taken. Once the current batch of china is gone, there will be a scoring round.

    When you score, you get points equal to the following 4 things:
    1. The highest card you have in each color.
    2. The lowest card you have in each color.
    3. The total of all cards from any 1 color.
    4. The total from all cards.

    What seems to happen a lot is that someone ends up with only 1 china come time to score. You effectively just get 4 times the value of that china when that happens.

    For example, if we were to score right now, Spiderman would get nothing, because he has no china. You and Ransac would get the value of your 1 china in each category, so you would get 12 points and Ransac would get 28. I would get 13 + 11 + 10 + 16 = 50 points (don't worry, I'm not likely to be able to keep all that). Melkor would get 10 + 10 + 7 + 10 = 37 points.

    There are a total of 40 china cards. The game ends when they are all gone. In other words, there are 4 rounds of scoring (8 rounds of china cards dealt).
  18. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    I'll get the Blue 5.

    EricBess: Green 4; Green 6; Red 7; Pass
    Spiderman: Blue 5; Pass
    Mooseman: Green 3; Money ; Pass
    Melkor:Green 3; Red 7; Money; Pass
    Ransac: Green 7;

    China: Red 5, Red 5, Green 5
    Bulls: 2 any
  19. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    I'll take the Red 5.

    EricBess: Green 4; Green 6; Red 7; Pass
    Spiderman: Blue 5; Pass
    Mooseman: Green 3; Red 5; Money ; Pass
    Melkor:Green 3; Red 7; Money; Pass
    Ransac: Green 7;

    China: Red 5, Green 5
    Bulls: 2 any
  20. Melkor Active Member

    I'll take the other Red 5.

    EricBess: Green 4; Green 6; Red 7; Pass
    Spiderman: Blue 5; Pass
    Mooseman: Green 3; Red 5; Money ; Pass
    Melkor:Green 3; Red 7; Red 5; Pass
    Ransac: Green 7;

    China: Green 5
    Bulls: 2 any

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