Bull in a China Shop

Discussion in 'Games Run By CPA Members' started by EricBess, Nov 26, 2007.

  1. EricBess Active Member

    Just picked up a new game called "Bull in a China Shop". It's basically a card game with a bit of setup, but it seems like it would be very easy to play online with very little moderation.

    Here's how it works. There are 40 pieces of "China" to be purchased, each costs a "money". China comes in 3 colors - red, blue, and green, and various numeric values ranging from 3 to 8.

    You get more money by selecting a "bull" card, which may or may not be detremental to your china and/or the china of other players. There are a couple different types of bull cards. Most destroy specific colors of china. For example, "a red and a green", or "2 blue". There are a few that destroy "any 2". When you take one of these bulls, you must destroy your own corresponding china, if you have any.

    There are also bulls that destroy "all red" or "all 4/6/8". When you take those bulls, everyone loses all china of the specified type.

    Everyone starts the game with 2 china (a 3 and a 4 of different colors), one money, and a "pass".

    On your turn, you can do one of three things:

    Buy china - You can only do this if you have money.
    Take a bull - This gives you a money. You can only do this if you don't already have 2 money.
    Pass - You can do this at any time, but you only get 1 pass during the entire game.

    At the beginning of the game, 5 pieces of china are dealt face up and 5 bulls. That is what everyone picks from. At the end of the turn when the last piece of china has been taken, 5 more are dealt out. Same with the bulls, when they are depleted.

    The bull deck may eventually be reshuffled. When the last china has been taken, the game ends.

    There are 4 points during the game when scores are taken. They are after each group of 10 china (every other deal of 5). Each player scores their own china by adding up the following:

    - The highest card they have of each color
    - The lowest card they have of each color
    - The total of any 1 color
    - The total of all of their china.

    That's everything. The nice thing here is that the moderator only needs to get involved when more cards need to be dealt, which only happens occassionally. The box says it plays with 3-5 players. I could moderate. I could probably play as well if everyone trusts me not to stack the deck in my favor, but if 5 others want to play, I'm good with just moderating.

    Any interest?
  2. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    You know I'm in!
  3. train The Wildcard!!!...

    I'm needing some help on this...

    the cards remain "in-sight" and when a bull destoys all of one color - what happens to them?...
  4. Melkor Active Member

    Sounds fun and playable
  5. Ransac CPA Trash Man

    I'm in


    Ransac, cpa trash man
  6. EricBess Active Member

    Okay, if train has the question, probably other people do to, so we'll walk through an example, using Spiderman, train, and Melkor.

    Spiderman: red 4; blue 3; pass; money
    Melkor: green 4; red 3; pass; money
    train: blue 4; green 3; pass; money

    china: green 3, red 7, green 4, red 7, blue 4
    bulls: any 2, all green, red & green, one of each, blue & green

    Spiderman goes first and spends his money to take a red 7.
    Melkor takes the other red 7.
    train decides to bide his time and since he doesn't have red china and the green is going to get destroyed by the "all green" bull eventually anyway, he takes the red & green bull, destroying his red china.

    The game would then look like this:

    Spiderman: red 4, 7; blue 3; pass
    Melkor: green 4; red 3, 7; pass
    train: blue 4; pass; money x 2

    china: green 3, green 4, blue 4
    bulls: any 2, all green, one of each, blue & green

    Clearly, each player would post an update, but for purposes of the example...

    If we ever ran out of china or bulls, I would post 5 new ones.

    train - you in? If no one else gets in, do you guys mind if I play also?
  7. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    Sure.... I'm in, even if I'm not good at it at first.......
  8. EricBess Active Member

    Okay, good to go. I'm going to assume train wants in. If he doesn't, I'll take over his spot.

    Here is the starting list and it will also be turn order:

    train: Red: 3; Green: 4; Money; Pass
    Spiderman: Blue: 3; Red: 4; Money; Pass
    Mooseman: Blue: 4; Green: 3; Money; Pass
    Melkor: Red: 4; Green: 3; Money; Pass
    Ransac: Blue: 4; Red: 3; Money; Pass

    China: Blue 4, Blue 7, Red 7, Green 6, Green 7
    Bulls: 2 Blue, 2 Green, All Blue, 2 any, All Red

    Okay, that's the setup. train - looks like you are up first.
  9. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    Okay, wait, in the example, Melkor and I still keep our 7's even though the red China bull destroyed them? I thought we lose them? What's the purpose in keeping the numbers after the bull has destroyed the color?
  10. EricBess Active Member

    Only the bulls that destroy "all" affect other players.

    When train took the "Red & Green" bull, only he needed to destroy one red and one green china. Since he didn't have a red china, he just ignored that and only had to destroy his green china.
  11. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    Oh, I see what happened. You have a comma between the different numbers within the colors of the china, where a semi-colon separates the colors. I get it.
  12. EricBess Active Member

    If it's easier to see, we can write them out.

    I don't know if train is coming back or not...we should get this started, so I'll play for train for now until we here definitively if he's planning on playing or not. I'll take the 2 blue bull:

    train: Red: 3; Green: 4; Money x 2; Pass
    Spiderman: Blue: 3; Red: 4; Money; Pass
    Mooseman: Blue: 4; Green: 3; Money; Pass
    Melkor: Red: 4; Green: 3; Money; Pass
    Ransac: Blue: 4; Red: 3; Money; Pass

    China: Blue 4, Blue 7, Red 7, Green 6, Green 7
    Bulls: 2 Green, All Blue, 2 any, All Red
  13. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    I'll pay to get the Blue 7

    train: Red: 3; Green: 4; Money x 2; Pass
    Spiderman: Blue: 3; Blue: 7; Red: 4; Pass
    Mooseman: Blue: 4; Green: 3; Money; Pass
    Melkor: Red: 4; Green: 3; Money; Pass
    Ransac: Blue: 4; Red: 3; Money; Pass

    China: Blue 4, Red 7, Green 6, Green 7
    Bulls: 2 Green, All Blue, 2 any, All Red
  14. Ransac CPA Trash Man

    You destroyed all of the Chinas and Bulls!!!


    Ransca, cpa trash man
  15. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    Nah, they were just hidden under the tarp here... :D
  16. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    I'll take the all red bull
  17. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    Update:

    train: Red: 3; Green: 4; Money x 2; Pass
    Spiderman: Blue: 3; Blue: 7; Red: 4; Pass
    Mooseman: Blue: 4; Green: 3; Money x 2; Pass
    Melkor: Red: 4; Green: 3; Money; Pass
    Ransac: Blue: 4; Red: 3; Money; Pass

    China: Blue 4, Red 7, Green 6, Green 7
    Bulls: 2 Green, All Blue, 2 any
  18. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    Shouldn't this be the update for an "All Red" bull

    train: Green: 4; Money x 2; Pass
    Spiderman: Blue: 3; Blue: 7; Red: 4; Pass
    Mooseman: Blue: 4; Green: 3; Money x 2; Pass
    Melkor:Green: 3; Money; Pass
    Ransac: Blue: 4; Money; Pass

    China: Blue 4, Red 7, Green 6, Green 7
    Bulls: 2 Green, All Blue, 2 any
  19. EricBess Active Member

    Yes. And you missed one...

    train : Green 4; Money x 2; Pass
    Spiderman : Blue 3; Blue 7; Pass
    Mooseman : Blue 4; Green 3; Money x 2; Pass
    Melkor :Green 3; Money; Pass
    Ransac : Blue 4; Money; Pass

    China: Blue 4, Red 7, Green 6, Green 7
    Bulls: 2 Green, All Blue, 2 any
  20. Melkor Active Member

    I'll take the Red 7

    train: Green 4; Money x 2; Pass
    Spiderman: Blue 3; Blue 7; Pass
    Mooseman: Blue 4; Green 3; Money x 2; Pass
    Melkor:Green 3; Red 7; Pass
    Ransac: Blue 4; Money; Pass

    China: Blue 4, Green 6, Green 7
    Bulls: 2 Green, All Blue, 2 any

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