12 Reasons Why Gay Marriage Should Not Be Legal

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train

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I'm looking for a little clarification here - if...

IF...

IF...

homosexuality was an addiction - what is the MARRIAGE of a homosexual couple?...
 
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mythosx

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Astranbluth - No flaming...But check this out. You believe strongly about the fact that there is no supernatural YOU are the pinnacle of authority in your own universe. This system of beliefs is your own personal religion. I am not talking about organized religions. It is possible to have a one man religion. Religion doesnt necesisarily have to deal with supernatural force. Zen buddhism is quite the opposite. It believes in nothing. Nothing at all.

Spiderman - I had something to say but I forgot it. But chew on this. Just because they just came up with the definition doesn't make it wrong. Secondly, the definitions in the dictionary do not make this take on religion wrong. Neither are mutually exclusive.

Train - Beats me. If teen sex is illegal why is it still legal to get teen marriages? Why do ruffles have ridges? Why does door to nothingness suck so bad?
 
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train

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Why does door to nothingness suck so bad?
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Is this a deck-building challenge?!...

:D

Aside from everything else - I've stated my thoughts on this subject...

Just looking for the addiction details...
 
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mythosx

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Spiderman - Here is a question for you? Why is it that you can accept their definition of a marriage and not accept their definition of religion? If you take a set of rules and meanings you gotta take everything not pick and choose what you want.
 
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train

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If you take a set of rules and meanings you gotta take everything not pick and choose what you want.
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That's the point of free will... each individual decides what they will pick and choose...:cool:
 
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sageridder

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For me this issue isn't about religious belief or condoning someones lifestyle.To me it boils down to equal rights for individuals under the law.Kinda like the way the jim crow laws were struck down with the idea that "seperate but equal is inherently unequal".Whether or not the church recognizes these unions should not (IMHO) effect them being recognized by the goverment.As tax paying united states citizens I believe they should be afforded any and all privileges and rights afforded to all other citizens.It seems completely ridiculous to me that in 24 of these here united states it's completely legal to marry your first cousin, yet in these same states it's illegal to marry someone of the same sex because it offends the delicate sensibilities of those governing those said states.
 
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train

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nicely put sageridder...

(Is there a site you pulled up the cousin-marriage info?)
 
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sageridder

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Thanks.Not to derail from the original subject but sure Train. These weren't my original source, but I was able to pull these up without too much trouble.some charts here.

http://www.cousincouples.com/?./pages/mostppl.htm


http://www.cousincouples.com/index.shtml?./pages/states.htm


Quote from cnn report.
Twenty-four states prohibit marriages between first cousins, and another seven permit them only under special circumstances. Utah, for example, permits first cousins to marry only provided both spouses are over age 65, or at least 55 with evidence of sterility. North Carolina permits first cousins to marry unless they are "double first cousins" (cousins through more than one line). Maine permits first cousins to marry only upon presentation of a certificate of genetic counseling. The remaining nineteen states and the District of Columbia permit first-cousin marriages without restriction.

Full report here.
http://www.cnn.com/2002/LAW/04/columns/fl.grossman.incest.04.09/
 
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Ivotekerry

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I am not trying to put down republicans because I see both sides to issues between the two parties but there is a site libertynewsforums.com over 3/4 of them are republicans. They are mean human beings people like that I have more of a problem with than same sex marriages. They are having problems with the head guy of the site because some of their sponsers on the site are leaving because of some of the mean comments the people are making about same sex relationships.

I get along with anybody I'm not gay but I am not going to mistreat or talk bad about someone who is. That is the way the good lord wants it. If porn is legal why is people having such a problem with gay people. I man don't mind looking at to women on a porn film go at it but they will talk bad about gays. If you do have a problem with gays talk about as adults that is wrong to treat someone like a dog.
 
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Reverend Love

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Originally posted by Ivotekerry
I am not trying to put down republicans because I see both sides to issues between the two parties but there is a site libertynewsforums.com over 3/4 of them are republicans. They are mean human beings people like that I have more of a problem with than same sex marriages. They are having problems with the head guy of the site because some of their sponsers on the site are leaving because of some of the mean comments the people are making about same sex relationships.

I get along with anybody I'm not gay but I am not going to mistreat or talk bad about someone who is. That is the way the good lord wants it. If porn is legal why is people having such a problem with gay people. I man don't mind looking at to women on a porn film go at it but they will talk bad about gays. If you do have a problem with gays talk about as adults that is wrong to treat someone like a dog.
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So what your trying to say is God is for Porn?

...hmm....maybe I should look back into this whole religion thing.
 
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Ivotekerry

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No, what I mean people put down gays if they are religious but they will watch porn. I say one is just as bad as the other.
 
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EricBess

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I think Ivotekerry was a bit confusing because he made religious statement and a political (law) statement in the same paragraph. I don't think he intended for them to be linked.
 
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Astranbrulth

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Sorry, this is a little disconnected, I should have replied earlier.

Istanbul -- The case you make is interesting. Certainly one could extrapolate that a strong system of beliefs re. the supernatural to signifies a personal religion. However, "religion" generally refers to an organised system of beliefs that a substantial group subscribes to ... and I'm not so sure a single person would count as a religion. Even if you take atheists as a group, often they all have varying reasons as to why they don't believe ... and it gets kind of hard to box them into a single box.

Astranbrulth
 
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DoubleT8600

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Originally posted by Istanbul
1. Homosexuality is not natural, much like eyeglasses, polyester, and birth control are not natural.

2. Heterosexual marriages are valid because they produce children. Infertile couples and old people cannot get legally married because the world needs more children.

3. Obviously gay parents will raise gay children because straight parents only raise straight children.

4. Straight marriage will be less meaningful, since Britney Spears's 55-hour just-for-fun marriage was meaningful.

5. Heterosexual marriage has been around a long time, and it hasn't changed at all: women are property, Blacks can't marry Whites, and divorce is illegal.

6. Gay marriage should be decided by the people, not the courts, because the majority-elected legislatures, not the courts, have historically protected the rights of minorities.

7. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are always imposed on the entire country. That's why we only have one religion in America.

8. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people makes you tall.

9. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage license.

10. Children can never succeed without both male and female role models at home. That's why single parents are forbidden to raise children.

11. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society. Heterosexual marraiage has been around for a long time, and we could never adapt to new social norms because we haven't adapted to cars or longer lifespans.

12. Civil unions, providing most of the same benefits as marriage with a different name are better, because a 'separate but equal' instittution is always constitutional. Separate schools for African-Americans worked just as well as separate marriages will for gays and lesbians.

And just in case you didn't get it...

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You're a sick bastard. I'm not gay or anything but you people are honestly sick in the head. WHY CAN'T YOU JUST LET THEM BE GAY?! MAKE IT ILLEGAL?? To me, this is just ridiculous. You people make me ashamed to be an American. ASHAMED.
 
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EricBess

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That is almost the funniest thing I have seen today...After all of this, random guy comes and thinks that your original post was serious...:D
 
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Reverend Love

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Originally posted by Chaos Turtle
I just don't know what to think anymore... :eek:
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No problem, just tune into either Rush Limbaugh or Al Franken. They'll tell you what you need to think, whom you need to hate, and why you should hate them.
 
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Astranbrulth

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I just about bust a gut reading DoubleT's rant.

C'mon, you gotta love these guys, they brighten up our days

:)

LOL!

--Astranbrulth--
 
Oversoul

Oversoul

The Tentacled One
I am finding it difficult to bring myself to believe that Double T8600 was serious there...

I mean, Istanbul even put "/sarcasm" at the end. You can't get much more obvious than that...

Anyway, I don't believe that I mentioned it earlier, but I think that's a great list, Istanbul. :)
 
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