Zendikar: Mooseman vs SealTeamBill

Mooseman

Mooseman

Isengar Tussle
If you get a bunch of library cards, just generate another pack. Just note when you play a land card from your hand, you should get a basic land card in this pack.
I will go first... wow this pack sucks......
Swamp
Done

SealTeamBill: 20
Hand: 15
Battlefield:



Graveyard:
Exile:
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Mooseman: 20
Hand: 15
Battlefield:

(U) Swamp



Graveyard:
Exile:
 
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SEALTEAMBILL

Member
So that means we get one extra land over our limit. So we should declare that land is coming from our hand. Holy cow definitely going to be an interesting game.
Plain
Kitesail Scout

Done

SealTeamBill: 20
Hand: 15
Battlefield:

(S)Kitesail Scout (white)(1/1)(Flying)



Graveyard:
Exile:
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Mooseman: 20
Hand: 15
Battlefield:

(U) Swamp



Graveyard:
Exile:
 
Mooseman

Mooseman

Isengar Tussle
Not sure how "interesting" it will be...
UU
Swamp
Vampire Hexmage
Done

SealTeamBill: 20
Hand: 14
Battlefield:

(S) Kitesail Scout (white)(1/1)(Flying)



Graveyard:
Exile:
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Mooseman: 20
Hand: 14
Battlefield:

(TT) Swamp x2

(S) Vampire Hexmage (B) (2/1,First strike. Sacrifice Vampire Hexmage: Remove all counters from target permanent.)

Graveyard:
Exile:
 
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SEALTEAMBILL

Member
UU
Forest
Fortified Rampart
Attack with the Scout for 1
Done

SealTeamBill: 20
Hand: 13
Battlefield:

(T) Plain
(T) Forest

(T) Kitesail Scout (white)(1/1)(Flying)
Fortified Rampart (white)(0/6)(Defender)



Graveyard:
Exile:
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Mooseman: 19
Hand: 14
Battlefield:

(TT) Swamp x2

(S) Vampire Hexmage (B) (2/1,First strike. Sacrifice Vampire Hexmage: Remove all counters from target permanent.)

Graveyard:
Exile:
 
Mooseman

Mooseman

Isengar Tussle
See what I mean
UU
Plains
Done

SealTeamBill: 20
Hand: 13
Battlefield:

(T) Plain
(T) Forest

(T) Kitesail Scout (white)(1/1)(Flying)
(S) Fortified Rampart (white)(0/6)(Defender)



Graveyard:
Exile:
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Mooseman: 19
Hand: 14
Battlefield:

(U) Plains
(UU) Swamp x2

(U) Vampire Hexmage (B) (2/1,First strike. Sacrifice Vampire Hexmage: Remove all counters from target permanent.)

Graveyard:
Exile:
 
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SEALTEAMBILL

Member
I don't know that Vampire took a bite out of my strategy :)
UU
swamp
Voracious Null
Attack for 1 fly with the Scout
SealTeamBill: 20
Hand: 12
Battlefield:

(T) Plain
(T) Forest
(T) Swamp

(T) Kitesail Scout (white)(1/1)(Flying)
(U) Fortified Rampart (white)(0/6)(Defender)
(S) Voracious Null (black)(2/2)(1+blk, Sacrifice another creature: Put two +1/+1 counters on Voracious Null. Activate this ability only anytime you could cast a sorcery.)



Graveyard:
Exile:
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Mooseman: 18
Hand: 14
Battlefield:

(U) Plains
(UU) Swamp x2

(U) Vampire Hexmage (B) (2/1,First strike. Sacrifice Vampire Hexmage: Remove all counters from target permanent.)

Graveyard:
Exile:
 
Mooseman

Mooseman

Isengar Tussle
I take it you're done
And your pack is fast and useful
UU
Plains
Kor Cartographer, getting a plains
Done

SealTeamBill: 20
Hand: 12
Battlefield:

(T) Plain
(T) Forest
(T) Swamp

(T) Kitesail Scout (white)(1/1)(Flying)
(U) Fortified Rampart (white)(0/6)(Defender)
(S) Voracious Null (black)(2/2)(1+blk, Sacrifice another creature: Put two +1/+1 counters on Voracious Null. Activate this ability only anytime you could cast a sorcery.)



Graveyard:
Exile:
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Mooseman: 18
Hand: 13
Battlefield:

(TT) Plains
(TT) Swamp x2
(T) Island

(U) Vampire Hexmage (B) (2/1,First strike. Sacrifice Vampire Hexmage: Remove all counters from target permanent.)
(S) Kor Cartographer (W) (2/2,When ~enters the battlefield, you may search your library for a Plains card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle your library.)

Graveyard:
Exile:
 
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SEALTEAMBILL

Member
I don't know if I'd use the word "useful" with Devoid. Most of these cards are good for a prerelease deck only and drawing cards. I played this prerelease and came in 13th place, I know the series pretty well. We will see.
UU
Island
Courier Griffin
Attack with the Scout 1 flying
DONE
SealTeamBill: 22
Hand: 11
Battlefield:

(T) Plain
(T) Forest
(T) Swamp
(T) Island

(T) Kitesail Scout (white)(1/1)(Flying)
(U) Fortified Rampart (white)(0/6)(Defender)
(U) Voracious Null (black)(2/2)(1+blk, Sacrifice another creature: Put two +1/+1 counters on Voracious Null. Activate this ability only anytime you could cast a sorcery.)
(S) Courier Griffin (white)(2/3)(Flying ~ When Courier Griffin enters the battlefield, you gain 2 life.)




Graveyard:
Exile:
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Mooseman: 17
Hand: 13
Battlefield:

(TT) Plains
(TT) Swamp x2
(T) Island

(U) Vampire Hexmage (B) (2/1,First strike. Sacrifice Vampire Hexmage: Remove all counters from target permanent.)
(S) Kor Cartographer (W) (2/2,When ~enters the battlefield, you may search your library for a Plains card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle your library.)

Graveyard:
Exile:
 
Mooseman

Mooseman

Isengar Tussle
YEah, well with these types of turns, I ain't going far
UU
MT
Done

SealTeamBill: 22
Hand: 11
Battlefield:

(T) Plain
(T) Forest
(T) Swamp
(T) Island

(T) Kitesail Scout (white)(1/1)(Flying)
(U) Fortified Rampart (white)(0/6)(Defender)
(U) Voracious Null (black)(2/2)(1+blk, Sacrifice another creature: Put two +1/+1 counters on Voracious Null. Activate this ability only anytime you could cast a sorcery.)
(S) Courier Griffin (white)(2/3)(Flying ~ When Courier Griffin enters the battlefield, you gain 2 life.)




Graveyard:
Exile:
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Mooseman: 17
Hand: 13
Battlefield:

(UU) Plains x2
(UU) Swamp x2
(U) Island
(U) Mountain

(U) Vampire Hexmage (B) (2/1,First strike. Sacrifice Vampire Hexmage: Remove all counters from target permanent.)
(U) Kor Cartographer (W) (2/2,When ~enters the battlefield, you may search your library for a Plains card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle your library.)

Graveyard:
Exile:
 
S

SEALTEAMBILL

Member
Well you got enough mana lol
UU
Mountain
Tajuru Stalwart ~ casting with grn, white and blue
Hedron Blade
Attack with the two flyers for 3

Response??

SealTeamBill: 22
Hand: 9
Battlefield:

(T) Plain
(T) Forest
(T) Swamp
(T) Island
(T) Moutain

(T) Kitesail Scout (white)(1/1)(Flying)
(U) Fortified Rampart (white)(0/6)(Defender)
(U) Voracious Null (black)(2/2)(1+blk, Sacrifice another creature: Put two +1/+1 counters on Voracious Null. Activate this ability only anytime you could cast a sorcery.)
(T) Courier Griffin (white)(2/3)(Flying ~ When Courier Griffin enters the battlefield, you gain 2 life.)
(S) Tajuru Stalwart (grn)(3/4)(Converge --- Tajuru Stalwart enters the battlefield with a +1/+1 counter on it each color of mana spent to cast it.)
Hedron Blade (Artifact equipment)(Equipped creature gets +1/+1. Whenever equipped creature becomes blocked by 1 or more colorless creatures, it gains deathtouch until the end of turn.(Any amount of damage dealt to a creature is enough to destroy it.) Equip 2




Graveyard:
Exile:
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Mooseman: 17
Hand: 13
Battlefield:

(UU) Plains x2
(UU) Swamp x2
(U) Island
(U) Mountain

(U) Vampire Hexmage (B) (2/1,First strike. Sacrifice Vampire Hexmage: Remove all counters from target permanent.)
(U) Kor Cartographer (W) (2/2,When ~enters the battlefield, you may search your library for a Plains card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle your library.)

Graveyard:
Exile:
 
S

SEALTEAMBILL

Member
UU
Mountain
Tajuru Stalwart ~ casting with grn, white and blue
Hedron Blade
Attack with the two flyers for 3

DONE

SealTeamBill: 22
Hand: 9
Battlefield:

(T) Plain
(T) Forest
(T) Swamp
(T) Island
(T) Moutain

(T) Kitesail Scout (white)(1/1)(Flying)
(U) Fortified Rampart (white)(0/6)(Defender)
(U) Voracious Null (black)(2/2)(1+blk, Sacrifice another creature: Put two +1/+1 counters on Voracious Null. Activate this ability only anytime you could cast a sorcery.)
(T) Courier Griffin (white)(2/3)(Flying ~ When Courier Griffin enters the battlefield, you gain 2 life.)
(S) Tajuru Stalwart (grn)(3/4)(Converge --- Tajuru Stalwart enters the battlefield with a +1/+1 counter on it each color of mana spent to cast it.)
Hedron Blade (Artifact equipment)(Equipped creature gets +1/+1. Whenever equipped creature becomes blocked by 1 or more colorless creatures, it gains deathtouch until the end of turn.(Any amount of damage dealt to a creature is enough to destroy it.) Equip 2




Graveyard:
Exile:
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Mooseman: 14
Hand: 13
Battlefield:

(UU) Plains x2
(UU) Swamp x2
(U) Island
(U) Mountain

(U) Vampire Hexmage (B) (2/1,First strike. Sacrifice Vampire Hexmage: Remove all counters from target permanent.)
(U) Kor Cartographer (W) (2/2,When ~enters the battlefield, you may search your library for a Plains card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle your library.)

Graveyard:
Exile:
 
Mooseman

Mooseman

Isengar Tussle
UU
MT
Disfugure on the Griffin
Torch Slinger W/kicker targeting the Griffin
Done

SealTeamBill: 22
Hand: 9
Battlefield:

(T) Plain
(T) Forest
(T) Swamp
(T) Island
(T) Moutain

(T) Kitesail Scout (white)(1/1)(Flying)
(U) Fortified Rampart (white)(0/6)(Defender)
(U) Voracious Null (black)(2/2)(1+blk, Sacrifice another creature: Put two +1/+1 counters on Voracious Null. Activate this ability only anytime you could cast a sorcery.)
(S) Tajuru Stalwart (grn)(3/4)(Converge --- Tajuru Stalwart enters the battlefield with a +1/+1 counter on it each color of mana spent to cast it.)
Hedron Blade (Artifact equipment)(Equipped creature gets +1/+1. Whenever equipped creature becomes blocked by 1 or more colorless creatures, it gains deathtouch until the end of turn.(Any amount of damage dealt to a creature is enough to destroy it.) Equip 2




Graveyard: Courier Griffin
Exile:
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Mooseman: 14
Hand: 11
Battlefield:

(TT) Plains x2
(TT) Swamp x2
(U) Island
(TT) Mountain x2

(U) Vampire Hexmage (B) (2/1,First strike. Sacrifice Vampire Hexmage: Remove all counters from target permanent.)
(U) Kor Cartographer (W) (2/2,When ~enters the battlefield, you may search your library for a Plains card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle your library.)
(S) Torch Slinger (R) (2/2,Kicker 1R. When Torch Slinger enters the battlefield, if it was kicked, it deals 2 damage to target creature.)

Graveyard:
Exile:
 
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SEALTEAMBILL

Member
Very nice play.

UU
1. Moutain
2. Sorcery (blue) Clutch of Currents ~ Return target creature to its owner's hand with Awaken 3 on my swamp. Turn it into an Elemental creature with haste 3/+1+1 counters. Return Kor cartographer to your hand.
3. attack with the Scout and the Swamp Elemental,Tajuru

response?

SealTeamBill: 22
Hand: 8
Battlefield:

(T) Plain
(T) Forest
(T) Swamp (3/3' Elemental)
(T) Island
(TT) Moutain

(T) Kitesail Scout (white)(1/1)(Flying)
(U) Fortified Rampart (white)(0/6)(Defender)
(U) Voracious Null (black)(2/2)(1+blk, Sacrifice another creature: Put two +1/+1 counters on Voracious Null. Activate this ability only anytime you could cast a sorcery.)
(T) Tajuru Stalwart (grn)(3/4)(Converge --- Tajuru Stalwart enters the battlefield with a +1/+1 counter on it each color of mana spent to cast it.)
Hedron Blade (Artifact equipment)(Equipped creature gets +1/+1. Whenever equipped creature becomes blocked by 1 or more colorless creatures, it gains deathtouch until the end of turn.(Any amount of damage dealt to a creature is enough to destroy it.) Equip 2




Graveyard: Courier Griffin
Exile:
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Mooseman: 15
Hand: 11
Battlefield:

(TT) Plains x2
(TT) Swamp x2
(U) Island
(TT) Mountain x2

(U) Vampire Hexmage (B) (2/1,First strike. Sacrifice Vampire Hexmage: Remove all counters from target permanent.)
SORCERY->(U) Kor Cartographer (W) (2/2,When ~enters the battlefield, you may search your library for a Plains card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle your library.)
(S) Torch Slinger (R) (2/2,Kicker 1R. When Torch Slinger enters the battlefield, if it was kicked, it deals 2 damage to target creature.)

Graveyard: Disfigured
Exile:
 
Mooseman

Mooseman

Isengar Tussle
Block Tajuru with Hexmage
Then sac hex mage to remove all counters on Swamp Elemental , killing it
 
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SEALTEAMBILL

Member
According to MTG removing the counters from a land Elemental just makes it a land again and takes it out of combat, doesn't kill it.
You take 1 and Kor is back in your hand.

Done
SealTeamBill: 22
Hand: 8
Battlefield:

(T) Plain
(T) Forest
(T) Swamp
(T) Island
(TT) Moutain

(T) Kitesail Scout (white)(1/1)(Flying)
(U) Fortified Rampart (white)(0/6)(Defender)
(U) Voracious Null (black)(2/2)(1+blk, Sacrifice another creature: Put two +1/+1 counters on Voracious Null. Activate this ability only anytime you could cast a sorcery.)
(T) Tajuru Stalwart (grn)(3/4)(Converge --- Tajuru Stalwart enters the battlefield with a +1/+1 counter on it each color of mana spent to cast it.)
Hedron Blade (Artifact equipment)(Equipped creature gets +1/+1. Whenever equipped creature becomes blocked by 1 or more colorless creatures, it gains deathtouch until the end of turn.(Any amount of damage dealt to a creature is enough to destroy it.) Equip 2




Graveyard: Courier Griffin
Exile:
=========================================================================================
Mooseman: 14
Hand: 11
Battlefield:

(TT) Plains x2
(TT) Swamp x2
(U) Island
(TT) Mountain x2

(S) Torch Slinger (R) (2/2,Kicker 1R. When Torch Slinger enters the battlefield, if it was kicked, it deals 2 damage to target creature.)

Graveyard: Disfigured ,Vampire Hexmage
Exile:
 
Mooseman

Mooseman

Isengar Tussle
SEALTEAMBILL said:
According to MTG removing the counters from a land Elemental just makes it a land again and takes it out of combat, doesn't kill it.
Click to expand...
Where did you find that rule?

I found in the comprehensive rules
704.5f If a creature has toughness 0 or less, it’s put into its owner’s graveyard. Regeneration can’t replace this event.
 
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SEALTEAMBILL

Member
The land never hit zero. You removed the counters and changed its condition. It has to recieve lethal damage in according to the rules to die. Lands only die from lethal damage. In this case there never was any damage. But if you would have blocked it first, doing damage and then removed the counters, then it would have received lethal damage. The ruling comes from a 2020 site: TappedOut.net
 
Mooseman

Mooseman

Isengar Tussle
Yeah, there is also posts there that say it doesn't. It makes no sense for it to stay a land, since it has to follow the rules of being a creature and when it's toughness goes to 0, as a statebased effect, it is put into the graveyard. Nothing in the rules says that when a land creature has all counters removed and is now toughness of 0, will just stay a land.
But since this game does have "free" land. I'll give it to you.
 
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