I did like Icewind Dale (and it's sequel) because it was one of the few games that allowed me to build an actual party of characters, but they were a little unforgiving in the fact that if you did something out of order you'd be stuck, have to fallback on an earlier save, and do a whole mess of crap all over again. Baldur's Gate left me w/ a sour taste in my mouth when I had characters fighting amongst themselves, your behaviour being closely monitored so that one bad click and the whole town would try to kill you, half your party turns against you, and the other half just plain ran away screaming "better part of valour!". But, I tolerated that. What really annoyed me was walking into a place w/ hard to navigate walls and being sniped w/ flaming arrows - by KOBOLDS! Little guys w/ 1-4 HP were doing 20-30 points of damage to my party. Let's just say that after that I was turned off to the whole series. I know I should try to go back and give it a try, but it was just too darned frustrating... Oddly enough, the best AD&D games I played were the old "Gold Box" edition games that I would play on my old 286 - they didn't even require a hard drive to play... -Ferret "What can I say? I'm old."