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DarthFerret · Feb 18, 2006

I guess if we are gonna have this many colors, I will have to add a BOP in as totally neccessary (and one of my favorite green cards of which there are not many)

(Red)
Fling - Ransac

(Green)
Yavimaya Elder - Ransac
Animate Land - Ransac
Pattern Of Rebirth - Gizmo
Fastbond - BigBlue
Birds of Paradise - DarthFerret

(White)
Kiyomaro, First to Stand - Limited
Balance - Gizmo
Land Tax x2 - Oversoul x2
Oath of Lieges - Limited
Academy Rector x2 - Spidey, Gizmo
Enlightened Tutor - BigBlue
Decree of Justice - Mooseman

(Blue)
Force of Will - Killer Joe
Boomerang - Mooseman
Day of the Dragons - Turgy22
Forbid - TomB
Morphling - TomB

(Black)

(Gold)
Goblin Trenches - Turgy22

(Artifact)
Horn of Greed - Ransac
Gruul War Plow - Mooseman
Scroll Rack - Mikeymike
Sol Ring - BigBlue
Zuran Orb x2 - TomB, Oversoul
Mox Diamond - Oversoul
Chrome Mox - Ransac

(Land)
Safe Haven - Ransac
Plains - Turgy22
Tundra - TomB
Island - Oversoul
Library of Alexandria - DarthFerret[/QUOTE]

Ransac · Feb 18, 2006

The only red card in there is the one I added. I'm going to double my Flings.

(Red)
Fling x2 - Ransac x2

(Green)
Yavimaya Elder - Ransac
Animate Land - Ransac
Pattern Of Rebirth - Gizmo
Fastbond - BigBlue
Birds of Paradise - DarthFerret

(White)
Kiyomaro, First to Stand - Limited
Balance - Gizmo
Land Tax x2 - Oversoul x2
Oath of Lieges - Limited
Academy Rector x2 - Spidey, Gizmo
Enlightened Tutor - BigBlue
Decree of Justice - Mooseman

(Blue)
Force of Will - Killer Joe
Boomerang - Mooseman
Day of the Dragons - Turgy22
Forbid - TomB
Morphling - TomB

(Black)

(Gold)
Goblin Trenches - Turgy22

(Artifact)
Horn of Greed - Ransac
Gruul War Plow - Mooseman
Scroll Rack - Mikeymike
Sol Ring - BigBlue
Zuran Orb x2 - TomB, Oversoul
Mox Diamond - Oversoul
Chrome Mox - Ransac

(Land)
Safe Haven - Ransac
Plains - Turgy22
Tundra - TomB
Island - Oversoul
Library of Alexandria - DarthFerret

Ransac, cpa trash man

Oversoul · Feb 18, 2006

This deck has multiple personality disorder.

Ransac · Feb 18, 2006

29 non-land cards so far. Anyone got any ideas for a kill-factor?

Ransac, cpa trash man

Spiderman · Feb 21, 2006

Here's a kill factor, but may make the mana base totally messed up

(Red)
Fling x2 - Ransac x2
Seismic Assault - Spidey

(Green)
Yavimaya Elder - Ransac
Animate Land - Ransac
Pattern Of Rebirth - Gizmo
Fastbond - BigBlue
Birds of Paradise - DarthFerret

(White)
Kiyomaro, First to Stand - Limited
Balance - Gizmo
Land Tax x2 - Oversoul x2
Oath of Lieges - Limited
Academy Rector x2 - Spidey, Gizmo
Enlightened Tutor - BigBlue
Decree of Justice - Mooseman

(Blue)
Force of Will - Killer Joe
Boomerang - Mooseman
Day of the Dragons - Turgy22
Forbid - TomB
Morphling - TomB

(Black)

(Gold)
Goblin Trenches - Turgy22

(Artifact)
Horn of Greed - Ransac
Gruul War Plow - Mooseman
Scroll Rack - Mikeymike
Sol Ring - BigBlue
Zuran Orb x2 - TomB, Oversoul
Mox Diamond - Oversoul
Chrome Mox - Ransac

(Land)
Safe Haven - Ransac
Plains - Turgy22
Tundra - TomB
Island - Oversoul
Library of Alexandria - DarthFerret

Killer Joe · Feb 21, 2006

Blue looks really bad in this deck now that it's turned into something else. Not many "BLUE" fans contributing may be a factor.

I suggest taking all the Blue out and replaceing those spots with "do-able" Green, Red or White spells.

It's a R/G deck with a splash of White, if you ask me.

Ransac · Feb 21, 2006

Yeah, I kinda messed up the direction it WAS going, but the deck was supposed to be a casual deck. The only "casual" card I saw when I started posting was the Dawn of Dragons.

But, I'm going to continue with my "make lands more useful" theme.

(Red)
Fling x2 - Ransac x2
Seismic Assault - Spidey

(Green)
Verdant Touch - Ransac
Yavimaya Elder - Ransac
Animate Land - Ransac
Pattern Of Rebirth - Gizmo
Fastbond - BigBlue
Birds of Paradise - DarthFerret

(White)
Kiyomaro, First to Stand - Limited
Balance - Gizmo
Land Tax x2 - Oversoul x2
Oath of Lieges - Limited
Academy Rector x2 - Spidey, Gizmo
Enlightened Tutor - BigBlue
Decree of Justice - Mooseman

(Blue)
Force of Will - Killer Joe
Boomerang - Mooseman
Day of the Dragons - Turgy22
Forbid - TomB
Morphling - TomB

(Black)

(Gold)
Goblin Trenches - Turgy22

(Artifact)
Horn of Greed - Ransac
Gruul War Plow - Mooseman
Scroll Rack - Mikeymike
Sol Ring - BigBlue
Zuran Orb x2 - TomB, Oversoul
Mox Diamond - Oversoul
Chrome Mox - Ransac

(Land)
Safe Haven - Ransac
Plains - Turgy22
Tundra - TomB
Island - Oversoul
Library of Alexandria - DarthFerret

Ransac, cpa trash man

BigBlue · Feb 21, 2006

As Crazy as this deck is... Perhaps one card will help bring the mana back into place, and alleviate the need for dual lands... of course we'll need a few copies perhaps.... Celestial Dawn

(Red)
Fling x2 - Ransac x2
Seismic Assault - Spidey

(Green)
Verdant Touch - Ransac
Yavimaya Elder - Ransac
Animate Land - Ransac
Pattern Of Rebirth - Gizmo
Fastbond - BigBlue
Birds of Paradise - DarthFerret

(White)
Kiyomaro, First to Stand - Limited
Balance - Gizmo
Land Tax x2 - Oversoul x2
Oath of Lieges - Limited
Academy Rector x2 - Spidey, Gizmo
Enlightened Tutor - BigBlue
Decree of Justice - Mooseman
Celestial Dawn - BigBlue

(Blue)
Force of Will - Killer Joe
Boomerang - Mooseman
Day of the Dragons - Turgy22
Forbid - TomB
Morphling - TomB

(Black)

(Gold)
Goblin Trenches - Turgy22

(Artifact)
Horn of Greed - Ransac
Gruul War Plow - Mooseman
Scroll Rack - Mikeymike
Sol Ring - BigBlue
Zuran Orb x2 - TomB, Oversoul
Mox Diamond - Oversoul
Chrome Mox - Ransac

(Land)
Safe Haven - Ransac
Plains - Turgy22
Tundra - TomB
Island - Oversoul
Library of Alexandria - DarthFerret

Oversoul · Feb 21, 2006

So crazy it just might work...

I'll add another.

And I suggest we begin discussing the issue of basic lands and how many we want to include...

(Red)
Fling x2 - Ransac x2
Seismic Assault - Spidey

(Green)
Verdant Touch - Ransac
Yavimaya Elder - Ransac
Animate Land - Ransac
Pattern Of Rebirth - Gizmo
Fastbond - BigBlue
Birds of Paradise - DarthFerret

(White)
Kiyomaro, First to Stand - Limited
Balance - Gizmo
Land Tax x2 - Oversoul x2
Oath of Lieges - Limited
Academy Rector x2 - Spidey, Gizmo
Enlightened Tutor - BigBlue
Decree of Justice - Mooseman
Celestial Dawn x2 - BigBlue, Oversoul

(Blue)
Force of Will - Killer Joe
Boomerang - Mooseman
Day of the Dragons - Turgy22
Forbid - TomB
Morphling - TomB

(Black)

(Gold)
Goblin Trenches - Turgy22

(Artifact)
Horn of Greed - Ransac
Gruul War Plow - Mooseman
Scroll Rack - Mikeymike
Sol Ring - BigBlue
Zuran Orb x2 - TomB, Oversoul
Mox Diamond - Oversoul
Chrome Mox - Ransac

(Land)
Safe Haven - Ransac
Plains - Turgy22
Tundra - TomB
Island - Oversoul
Library of Alexandria - DarthFerret

Ransac · Feb 21, 2006

There are 34 non-land cards suggested so far, and one non-mana producing land. My vote for the mana-producing land count is 23. AND, with this, I'm going to add ANOTHER Verdant Touch.

35 non-land cards, now.

(Red)
Fling x2 - Ransac x2
Seismic Assault - Spidey

(Green)
Verdant Touchx2 - Ransac x2
Yavimaya Elder - Ransac
Animate Land - Ransac
Pattern Of Rebirth - Gizmo
Fastbond - BigBlue
Birds of Paradise - DarthFerret

(White)
Kiyomaro, First to Stand - Limited
Balance - Gizmo
Land Tax x2 - Oversoul x2
Oath of Lieges - Limited
Academy Rector x2 - Spidey, Gizmo
Enlightened Tutor - BigBlue
Decree of Justice - Mooseman
Celestial Dawn x2 - BigBlue, Oversoul

(Blue)
Force of Will - Killer Joe
Boomerang - Mooseman
Day of the Dragons - Turgy22
Forbid - TomB
Morphling - TomB

(Black)

(Gold)
Goblin Trenches - Turgy22

(Artifact)
Horn of Greed - Ransac
Gruul War Plow - Mooseman
Scroll Rack - Mikeymike
Sol Ring - BigBlue
Zuran Orb x2 - TomB, Oversoul
Mox Diamond - Oversoul
Chrome Mox - Ransac

(Land)
Safe Haven - Ransac
Plains - Turgy22
Tundra - TomB
Island - Oversoul
Library of Alexandria - DarthFerret

Spiderman · Feb 22, 2006

If we're making this "the best it can be" now, I would suggest 2 each of the dual lands for R/G, R/W, R/U, G/W, G/U, and W/U, and 2 each of the basic lands of Mts, Forests, Islands, and Plains. However, I'm adding another "mana fixer" - the almighty Krosan Tusker.

(Red)
Fling x2 - Ransac x2
Seismic Assault - Spidey

(Green)
Verdant Touchx2 - Ransac x2
Yavimaya Elder - Ransac
Animate Land - Ransac
Pattern Of Rebirth - Gizmo
Fastbond - BigBlue
Birds of Paradise - DarthFerret
Krosan Tusker - Spidey

(White)
Kiyomaro, First to Stand - Limited
Balance - Gizmo
Land Tax x2 - Oversoul x2
Oath of Lieges - Limited
Academy Rector x2 - Spidey, Gizmo
Enlightened Tutor - BigBlue
Decree of Justice - Mooseman
Celestial Dawn x2 - BigBlue, Oversoul

(Blue)
Force of Will - Killer Joe
Boomerang - Mooseman
Day of the Dragons - Turgy22
Forbid - TomB
Morphling - TomB

(Black)

(Gold)
Goblin Trenches - Turgy22

(Artifact)
Horn of Greed - Ransac
Gruul War Plow - Mooseman
Scroll Rack - Mikeymike
Sol Ring - BigBlue
Zuran Orb x2 - TomB, Oversoul
Mox Diamond - Oversoul
Chrome Mox - Ransac

(Land)
Safe Haven - Ransac
Plains - Turgy22
Tundra - TomB
Island - Oversoul
Library of Alexandria - DarthFerret

Ransac · Feb 22, 2006

I second Spiderman's suggestion on the land make-up. 36 non-lands. 37 after this post.

(Red)
Fling x2 - Ransac x2
Seismic Assault - Spidey

(Green)
Verdant Touchx2 - Ransac x2
Yavimaya Elder - Ransac
Animate Land - Ransac
Pattern Of Rebirth - Gizmo
Fastbond - BigBlue
Birds of Paradise - DarthFerret
Krosan Tusker - Spidey

(White)
Kiyomaro, First to Stand - Limited
Balance - Gizmo
Land Tax x2 - Oversoul x2
Oath of Lieges - Limited
Academy Rector x2 - Spidey, Gizmo
Enlightened Tutor - BigBlue
Decree of Justice - Mooseman
Celestial Dawn x2 - BigBlue, Oversoul

(Blue)
Force of Will - Killer Joe
Boomerang - Mooseman
Day of the Dragons x2- Turgy22, Ransac
Forbid - TomB
Morphling - TomB

(Black)

(Gold)
Goblin Trenches - Turgy22

(Artifact)
Horn of Greed - Ransac
Gruul War Plow - Mooseman
Scroll Rack - Mikeymike
Sol Ring - BigBlue
Zuran Orb x2 - TomB, Oversoul
Mox Diamond - Oversoul
Chrome Mox - Ransac

(Land)
Safe Haven - Ransac
Plains - Turgy22
Tundra - TomB
Island - Oversoul
Library of Alexandria - DarthFerret

Oversoul · Feb 22, 2006

Well, we need more damage-dealing and Force of Will needs more pitch-fodder. I'm adding a second Morphling.

(Red)
Fling x2 - Ransac x2
Seismic Assault - Spidey

(Green)
Verdant Touchx2 - Ransac x2
Yavimaya Elder - Ransac
Animate Land - Ransac
Pattern Of Rebirth - Gizmo
Fastbond - BigBlue
Birds of Paradise - DarthFerret
Krosan Tusker - Spidey

(White)
Kiyomaro, First to Stand - Limited
Balance - Gizmo
Land Tax x2 - Oversoul x2
Oath of Lieges - Limited
Academy Rector x2 - Spidey, Gizmo
Enlightened Tutor - BigBlue
Decree of Justice - Mooseman
Celestial Dawn x2 - BigBlue, Oversoul

(Blue)
Force of Will - Killer Joe
Boomerang - Mooseman
Day of the Dragons - Turgy22, Ransac
Forbid - TomB
Morphling x2 - TomB, Oversoul

(Black)

(Gold)
Goblin Trenches - Turgy22

(Artifact)
Horn of Greed - Ransac
Gruul War Plow - Mooseman
Scroll Rack - Mikeymike
Sol Ring - BigBlue
Zuran Orb x2 - TomB, Oversoul
Mox Diamond - Oversoul
Chrome Mox - Ransac

(Land)
Safe Haven - Ransac
Plains - Turgy22
Tundra - TomB
Island - Oversoul
Library of Alexandria - DarthFerret

DarthFerret · Feb 23, 2006

Seeing the different colors we have running here, I am really concerned with mana supply, so I will add a second Birds of Paradise to enable the casting of whatever is needed.

(Red)
Fling x2 - Ransac x2
Seismic Assault - Spidey

(Green)
Verdant Touchx2 - Ransac x2
Yavimaya Elder - Ransac
Animate Land - Ransac
Pattern Of Rebirth - Gizmo
Fastbond - BigBlue
Birds of Paradise - DarthFerret x2
Krosan Tusker - Spidey

(White)
Kiyomaro, First to Stand - Limited
Balance - Gizmo
Land Tax x2 - Oversoul x2
Oath of Lieges - Limited
Academy Rector x2 - Spidey, Gizmo
Enlightened Tutor - BigBlue
Decree of Justice - Mooseman
Celestial Dawn x2 - BigBlue, Oversoul

(Blue)
Force of Will - Killer Joe
Boomerang - Mooseman
Day of the Dragons - Turgy22, Ransac
Forbid - TomB
Morphling x2 - TomB, Oversoul

(Black)

(Gold)
Goblin Trenches - Turgy22

(Artifact)
Horn of Greed - Ransac
Gruul War Plow - Mooseman
Scroll Rack - Mikeymike
Sol Ring - BigBlue
Zuran Orb x2 - TomB, Oversoul
Mox Diamond - Oversoul
Chrome Mox - Ransac

(Land)
Safe Haven - Ransac
Plains - Turgy22
Tundra - TomB
Island - Oversoul
Library of Alexandria - DarthFerret

TomB · Feb 23, 2006

I'm adding another Celestial Dawn to try and help the mana situation a bit more...

(Red)
Fling x2 - Ransac x2
Seismic Assault - Spidey

(Green)
Verdant Touchx2 - Ransac x2
Yavimaya Elder - Ransac
Animate Land - Ransac
Pattern Of Rebirth - Gizmo
Fastbond - BigBlue
Birds of Paradisex2 - DarthFerret x2
Krosan Tusker - Spidey

(White)
Kiyomaro, First to Stand - Limited
Balance - Gizmo
Land Tax x2 - Oversoul x2
Oath of Lieges - Limited
Academy Rector x2 - Spidey, Gizmo
Enlightened Tutor - BigBlue
Decree of Justice - Mooseman
Celestial Dawn x3 - BigBlue, Oversoul, TomB

(Blue)
Force of Will - Killer Joe
Boomerang - Mooseman
Day of the Dragons - Turgy22, Ransac
Forbid - TomB
Morphling x2 - TomB, Oversoul

(Black)

(Gold)
Goblin Trenches - Turgy22

(Artifact)
Horn of Greed - Ransac
Gruul War Plow - Mooseman
Scroll Rack - Mikeymike
Sol Ring - BigBlue
Zuran Orb x2 - TomB, Oversoul
Mox Diamond - Oversoul
Chrome Mox - Ransac

(Land)
Safe Haven - Ransac
Plains - Turgy22
Tundra - TomB
Island - Oversoul
Library of Alexandria - DarthFerret

Spiderman · Feb 23, 2006

Ummm.... okay, we have 39 nonlands, which leaves 21 land slots for a 60 card deck. Not really the best land numbers even in a dual deck, let alone a 4-color deck... should we just add lands willy-nilly now or go with "the best distribution"?

Ransac · Feb 23, 2006

I vote for "the best distribution" and no more adding of other cards (unless there is more room after land).

Ransac, cpa trash man

Killer Joe · Feb 23, 2006

There can be more slots if blue is removed, here, I'll withdraw my suggestion "Force of Will"

(Red)
Fling x2 - Ransac x2
Seismic Assault - Spidey

(Green)
Verdant Touchx2 - Ransac x2
Yavimaya Elder - Ransac
Animate Land - Ransac
Pattern Of Rebirth - Gizmo
Fastbond - BigBlue
Birds of Paradisex2 - DarthFerret x2
Krosan Tusker - Spidey

(White)
Kiyomaro, First to Stand - Limited
Balance - Gizmo
Land Tax x2 - Oversoul x2
Oath of Lieges - Limited
Academy Rector x2 - Spidey, Gizmo
Enlightened Tutor - BigBlue
Decree of Justice - Mooseman
Celestial Dawn x3 - BigBlue, Oversoul, TomB

(Blue)
Selection withdrawn - Killer Joe
Boomerang - Mooseman
Day of the Dragons - Turgy22, Ransac
Forbid - TomB
Morphling x2 - TomB, Oversoul

(Black)

(Gold)
Goblin Trenches - Turgy22

(Artifact)
Horn of Greed - Ransac
Gruul War Plow - Mooseman
Scroll Rack - Mikeymike
Sol Ring - BigBlue
Zuran Orb x2 - TomB, Oversoul
Mox Diamond - Oversoul
Chrome Mox - Ransac

(Land)
Safe Haven - Ransac
Plains - Turgy22
Tundra - TomB
Island - Oversoul
Library of Alexandria

Mooseman · Feb 23, 2006

I will change my Blue selection to White

(Red)
Fling x2 - Ransac x2
Seismic Assault - Spidey

(Green)
Verdant Touchx2 - Ransac x2
Yavimaya Elder - Ransac
Animate Land - Ransac
Pattern Of Rebirth - Gizmo
Fastbond - BigBlue
Birds of Paradisex2 - DarthFerret x2
Krosan Tusker - Spidey

(White)
Kiyomaro, First to Stand - Limited
Balance - Gizmo
Land Tax x2 - Oversoul x2
Oath of Lieges - Limited
Academy Rector x2 - Spidey, Gizmo
Enlightened Tutor X2 - BigBlue, mooseman
Decree of Justice - Mooseman
Celestial Dawn x3 - BigBlue, Oversoul, TomB

(Blue)
Selection withdrawn - Killer Joe
Selection changed - Mooseman
Day of the Dragons - Turgy22, Ransac
Forbid - TomB
Morphling x2 - TomB, Oversoul

(Black)

(Gold)
Goblin Trenches - Turgy22

(Artifact)
Horn of Greed - Ransac
Gruul War Plow - Mooseman
Scroll Rack - Mikeymike
Sol Ring - BigBlue
Zuran Orb x2 - TomB, Oversoul
Mox Diamond - Oversoul
Chrome Mox - Ransac

(Land)
Safe Haven - Ransac
Plains - Turgy22
Tundra - TomB
Island - Oversoul
Library of Alexandria

Ransac · Feb 23, 2006

Just going to add that there are two Day of the Dragons, not just one.

Ransac, cpa trash man

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