Taliban secrets revealed!

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arhar

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Philosophy: The Taliban is the ruling government in Afghanistan and is an extremist faction of the Islamic faith. While they claim to follow the path of Islam, many Muslims can't help but doubt their theories which include the following "alternate director's cut version" of Islam:

Allah is the one and only god
Allah is three-hundred feet tall with a giant beard made out of live kittens.
Allah subsists on the blood of infidels.
Allah wears hot pants.
The only thing faster than Allah is Sonic the Hedgehog.
If you get fat enough you will eventually roll back around to being skinny.
Wrestling team rules!
Allah supports terrorism. Prank calling is not terrorism.
An eye for a diamond studded gold necklace, two speedboats, two guard dogs and a helicopter.
Women are actually ghosts and have to dress like ghosts and talk in spooky voices.
If you sin against Allah he will turn your beard into salt.
If you do good in the eyes of Allah he will turn your beard into delicious pudding.
Ranking above Allah is a secret super-Allah called "The Great Pumpkin".

Methodology: The Taliban regularly practice human sacrifice in an effort to win favor from Allah. They will often cut the still-beating hearts out of convicted criminals. If you are particularly bad they will hire a Russian boxer to punch your head off and then replace your bloody neck stump with a record turntable that constantly plays "Golden Hits of the 70s", which is Allah's favorite time period. The Taliban also endorses terrorism. While they do not specifically endorse the catastrophic and horrifying attacks on the World Trade Center, they do support terrorist efforts. These include the "Great Frock Fiasco of 1987", "The Search for the Haunted Yeti" in 1990, and most notably "Captain von Bismarck Has Lost His Monument" in 1994. These dastardly capers might not occupy the same historical significance as the attack on the World Trade Center, but they are terrible indeed.

Capabilities: With the covert assistance of well-connected and wealthy terrorist leaders like Osama bin Laden, the Taliban has powerful and far-reaching capabilities. It will be no easy task for the United States and our allies to eliminate the Taliban entirely. On paper however, the armed forces and the resources of the Taliban are not very impressive. These include:

97 dollars in one-dollar bills.
476 dollars in change.
A special beard comb that doubles as a pudding cup for when someone's beard turns into pudding.
A totally radical wall hanging of Allah that glows under black lights.
Some Dragonball Z pogs they bought from ebay before they banned all computers, Dragonball Z pogs, and buying things.
A coffee mug that says "Back off, I'm working."
About five million Ak47s.
250 Stinger surface-to-air missiles that were a gift from the United States in the 80s.
A Hefty Jack frozen entrée.
A pair of pants that is almost three sizes too big.
A baseball cap with "Is pork, is beef, Islam!" embroidered on the front. The hat is banned and kept inside of a lead-lined bank vault.
A copy of "Field and Stream" magazine from 1996. A photograph of the Hosenecker three-grain flywheel is circled with black marker.
The bargain basement prices of "Crazy Ibrahim". "Crazy Ibrahim" is shackled to a wall in a cave and is frequently prodded with hot needles.

Final Analysis: The listed resources of the Taliban seem fairly paltry compared to the incredible wealth of the United States, but when combined with the insane fervor of followers of the Taliban these meager tools are an arsenal to be reckoned with. They won't be winning many converts from more levelheaded (read as: less apeoink insane) members of the Islamic faith, but those they already have are forged in the iron of oppression and hollow beard pudding promises.


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Rando

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This is just wrong...and asking for a fight...

...with someone.
 
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terzarima

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The only thing I laugh at there is the hot pants... because man, hot pants just entertain me.
 
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NeuroDeus

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it is funny... but for all afghans here (ermm none) its a bit bad joke... and also shows the american bastard in you arhar...
 
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MrXarvox

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Obviously not to be taken seriously, though all it really does is ridicule the Taliban's ludicrous spin on Islam.

Funny stuff.

hehe... Hot Pants...
 
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Gizmo

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Oh.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
:rolleyes:

How about we do the real version? Some numbers Ive been picking up here and there from news sources.

$350m
Half a dozen Hind-D Gunships
Several dozen old Soviet Tanks.
200,000 Taliban fighters. Those are the guys who have been fighting for 20 years solid now, and STILL ARENT DEAD. That means that they are quite good at fighting.
20ish Stingers (most have been used)
300 million potential new recruits the second the US and its 'allies' (read, people too scared to disagree) puts a diplomatic foot wrong.

More importantly. Nobody has ever won a military campaign in Afghanistan. Alexander The Great tried, Attila The Hun tried, the Red Army tried. They all lost horrendously, in the Soviet Unions case they made Vietnam look like a rousing victory.

This war could easily destroy the US, if they do it wrong.

Its also interesting, Ive noticed from several US people Ive spoken to that you seem to believe the Taliban are unpopular with the Afghan people, Bush spoke of 'liberating' Afghanistan. Thats interesting because the CNN`s reporter in Kabul, unable to put out reports on CNN because he was censored, was writing in the British newspaper The Guardian, about just how strong the support was for the Taliban in Afghanistan, and moreso over the border in Pakistan.
I have to say this is the first to time a foreign invading army has been trying to liberate people from their own government that they support. It reminds me of when the US liberated the Native Indians, and Hitler liberated France from the French. :confused: Is Bush just straight out living in another universe of his own creation?
 
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Rando

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Well, there are disidents in the north-west that may help us.

But, yes indeed. Afganastan is a brutal, hostile place, and not just the people. This is not going to be the cake walk many people think it will be.

Oh, and I had read that they have a standing army of 300,000, not 200,000.
 

Spiderman

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Sorry, I think this was hilarious and despite poking fun at the Taliban, it's so far out there that (I yhink) it can't do any harm. Sorry for those who are unable to pick up on it (um, Rando, Gizmo).

As for Gizmo's serious numbers, let's put some caveats on there, shall we? Those 200,000 fighters... are you SURE they've been fighting for 20 years or have some been recruited since then? In other words, how many have experience fighting the Russians and how many have experience just fighting other Afghans since the Russians pulled out? I'm not saying they're terrible fighters, I'm just saying let's look a little deeper.

More importantly. Nobody has ever won a military campaign in Afghanistan. Alexander The Great tried, Attila The Hun tried, the Red Army tried. They all lost horrendously, in the Soviet Unions case they made Vietnam look like a rousing victory.
Heh. Let's not forget the British. But from what I've seen and read, the difference would be the goals of the operation. If the US intended to occupy Afghanistan and perhaps put the Northern Alliance in power and support them, then they might fall down the same route. If they just intend to hunt down and destroy all of bin Laden's camps, it might or might not be unsuccessful.

And this reporter in Kabul, is he traveling all over the country or something?
 
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Rando

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I'm sorry if I don't find oppresive, sexist, draconian regimes that take a foot-ball (ie, soccer) stadium paid for by the international community and turn it into an arena used to execute large amounts of people (mostly women) funny.

Here are a few of the taliban's laws from the Revolutionary Association of the Women of Afghanistan (RAWA)...

Taliban restrictions and mistreatment of women include the:

1- Complete ban on women's work outside the home, which also applies to female teachers, engineers and most professionals. Only a few female doctors and nurses are allowed to work in some hospitals in Kabul.

2- Complete ban on women's activity outside the home unless accompanied by a mahram (close male relative such as a father, brother or husband).

3- Ban on women dealing with male shopkeepers.

4- Ban on women being treated by male doctors.

5- Ban on women studying at schools, universities or any other educational institution. (Taliban have converted girls' schools into religious seminaries.)

6- Requirement that women wear a long veil (Burqa), which covers them from head to toe.

7- Whipping, beating and verbal abuse of women not clothed in accordance with Taliban rules, or of women unaccompanied by a mahram.

8- Whipping of women in public for having non-covered ankles.

9- Public stoning of women accused of having sex outside marriage. (A number of lovers are stoned to death under this rule).

10- Ban on the use of cosmetics. (Many women with painted nails have had fingers cut off).

11- Ban on women talking or shaking hands with non-mahram males.

12- Ban on women laughing loudly. (No stranger should hear a woman's voice).

13- Ban on women wearing high heel shoes, which would produce sound while walking. (A man must not hear a woman's footsteps.)

14- Ban on women riding in a taxi without a mahram.

15- Ban on women's presence in radio, television or public gatherings of any kind.

16- Ban on women playing sports or entering a sport center or club.

17- Ban on women riding bicycles or motorcycles, even with their mahrams.

18- Ban on women's wearing brightly colored clothes. In Taliban terms, these are "sexually attracting colors."

19- Ban on women gathering for festive occasions such as the Eids, or for any recreational purpose.

20- Ban on women washing clothes next to rivers or in a public place.

21- Modification of all place names including the word "women." For example, "women's garden" has been renamed "spring garden".

22- Ban on women appearing on the balconies of their apartments or houses.

23- Compulsory painting of all windows, so women can not be seen from outside their homes.

24- Ban on male tailors taking women's measurements or sewing women's clothes.

25- Ban on female public baths.

26- Ban on males and females traveling on the same bus. Public buses have now been designated "males only" (or "females only").

27- Ban on flared (wide) pant-legs, even under a burqa.

28- Ban on the photographing or filming of women.

29- Ban on women's pictures printed in newspapers and books, or hung on the walls of houses and shops.


Apart from the above restrictions on women, the Taliban has:

- Banned listening to music, not only for women but men as well.

- Banned the watching of movies, television and videos, for everyone.

- Banned celebrating the traditional new year (Nowroz) on March 21. The Taliban has proclaimed the holiday un-Islamic.

- Disavowed Labor Day (May 1st), because it is deemed a "communist" holiday.

- Ordered that all people with non-Islamic names change them to Islamic ones.

- Forced haircuts upon Afghan youth.

- Ordered that men wear Islamic clothes and a cap.

- Ordered that men not shave or trim their beards, which should grow long enough to protrude from a fist clasped at the point of the chin.

- Ordered that all people attend prayers in mosques five times daily.

- Banned the keeping of pigeons and playing with the birds, describing it as un-Islamic. The violators will be imprisoned and the birds shall be killed. The kite flying has also been stopped.

- Ordered all onlookers, while encouraging the sportsmen, to chant Allah-o-Akbar (God is great) and refrain from clapping.

- Ban on certain games including kite flying which is "un-Islamic" according to Taliban.

- Anyone who carries objectionable literature will be executed.

- Anyone who converts from Islam to any other religion will be executed.

- All boy students must wear turbans. They say "No turban, no education".

- Non-Muslim minorities must distinct badge or stitch a yellow cloth onto their dress to be differentiated from the majority Muslim population. Just like what did Nazis with Jews.
 
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MrXarvox

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... which is exactly why this thread is entertaining.
It pokes fun at the losers who twist Islam to their violent little agenda.
 

Spiderman

Administrator
Staff member
Rando: I agree that the current Taliban policies certainly seem very oppressive and fundamentalist. However, aside from one mention of women in arhar's post, not one of them is directly addressed! Instead, it's taking the wackiest and craziest things that (hopefully) obviously are not serious and making it into satire.

I read once somewhere that one of the sure ways to get under a dictator's skin is to laugh at him. Try to debate him, you won't get anywhere. But make people laugh at him and show how ridiculous he is and he can't do a things to stop you (well, kill you, but the seeds are there).

As an addition to Gizmo's remarks about the journalist writing that most of Afghanistan is in support of the Taliban, there was an article in today's Baltimore Sun that interviews an Afghan veteran of the wars and gets his perspective.

Neither God nor the Afghan people side with the ruling militia, says a veteran of the jihad against the Soviet Union.
 
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Gaelic

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The Taliban is about one thing and one thing alone. Power. They don't care about religion, they don't care about human rights, they don't care about percieved injustices against palestinians. Those are only tools they use to expand their power.

One thing missing in this list of Taliban rules is that fact that anyone who speaks against the Taliban is executed. That may be an explanation for the data that reporter filed.
 
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Gizmo

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Possibly similar to the oppressive monarchies supported and sustained by the US in Saudi Arabia, Oman, Kuwait...?

Nah. Cos that would be double standards.......
 

Spiderman

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You mean those same countries where we have to ASK to use their airspace/land for military bases, and I'm sure if the current government had a change of heart and would kick us out, we'd have to comply? And somehow if we leave, those countries/governments are unstable enough that some internal force has enough power to topple them?

Oh yeah, that must be your "sustain and support" :rolleyes:
 
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Gizmo

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There are several regimes in the Middle East who have been supported at various times by CIA and military involvement from the USA, and these regimes are famously corrupt and authoritarian. It is this that is one of the bones of contention against the US amongst the Arab world.
The oil-rich states of Arabia are virtually the last medieval countries on the globe, because it suits the US that friendly people are in charge of the oil.
 
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