Survivor and CSI...

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train

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Now that's a bit more interesting... but I don't see her playing her games with him, as he seems to be a dominator also...

He does not like it when things are not in his control... shame - he could have had fun...:p

They did show some of Nick's past the time he leaked the info to that old comrade... I'd like to see more of that also...
 
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train

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wish I could fill you in a little more on it... but I mainly remember the big plots they covered when it was continued...

There weren't really any small ones...:)
 

Spiderman

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Well, we saw the next week's episode where they were trying to solve who murdered the serial killers, so I guess it was just them finding out who those serial killers were in the first place and everything. Nick's little plot would have been interesting to see though.
 

Ferret

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My wife is actually studying Crime Scene Investigation in college right now - her teachers refer to CSI as BSi. If you want to see real forensic work check out "Forensic Files" on CourTV or New "Detectives" on TLC...

-Ferret

"I could site examples, but it would take forever..."
 

Spiderman

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Yeah, I know it's not "the real thing" but it's entertainment and that's what TV is for, right? I mean, it's not trying to pass itself off as "reality TV" or a documentary whose purpose is to show the "real thing"...
 
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train

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How is the Mrs Ferret?...

it's not the real thing... but then neither is pepsi...;)

it all comes down to perception... and think about it this way - it could really open up the field...

I know that universities here in TX are looking into offering electronic forensics... It's actually an interesting field...

"EVERYTHING... is out there..."

Besides - who wouldn't want to see Grissom get down with a Dominatrix...:D ;)
 

Ferret

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Originally posted by train
How is the Mrs Ferret?...
She's fine thanks. I'm trying to convince her to post on the site, but she's been having password problems - even after I reset it twice. I'll let her know that you asked :)

-Ferret

"Maybe I can convince her to relate greetings while I'm off at boot camp..."
 

Ferret

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Hey everyone, Mrs. Ferret here. My username/password is still giving me grief so I hijacked Dave's account. Call me paranoid, but is there a reason why I can't post? ::strokes chin in evil scientist style::

Anyways, thanks Train for asking how things are going. I've been so busy with school and taking my dad from doctors and hospitals I haven't had time to do anything.

Regarding BSI, my advanced crime scene tech teacher is fond of telling us the amazing stories and adventures of the cast and how they are making breakthroughs in cst. We were discussing identification with alternative light sources one night and talking about the different ways you can determine class characteristics from fibers, etc. He said, "But if we were on CSI, we could go into a room where the perpetrator passed gas, capture it in a glass jar and analyze it. We could determine the sex, age, and weight of the perp as well as what he ate and if he was thinking bad thoughts while committing the crime." We got a kick out of that. Our last class was on adipocure bodies (when the body turns into a fatty wax if left in a warm, damp place) and how on one CSI they had this chick laddling out water from one of these crime scenes, her long hair all over the body, and wearing a white shirt. My teacher said, "Ladies, if you are going to do a water scene in a white shirt, call me. I'll just borrow your camera while you are working. Don't mind me or the heavy breathing."

There are other shows that have the csi feel without the explosions or obvious holes in investigations (leaving evidence out while ignorning the C.O.C., etc.). If you ever find a forensics show like New Detectives, Forensic Files or Mugshots with Robert Ressler or John Douglas, watch it. You'll get the drama and the correct info.

Didn't mean to go on about that. I just hate it when I tell people I'm studying forensics and I hear the inevitable, "Oh, you mean like CSI?" GGGRRRRRRRR.... LOL

MP,
Mrs. Ferret
 

Spiderman

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I'd PM Ed about your login problems - maybe he can help.

I was chuckling at that white shirt scene too :)

Well, technically, it IS like CSI. Just with the explosions and holes, like you said.

Although it sounds like your instructor is prone to exaggeration too, to make his point. I don't recall an episode where anyone analyzed gas to make the deductions he said and even if it was an exaggeration, I don't recall an episode where ANY evidence not from the body was used to determine those conclusions like age, weight, contents of stomach, and thoughts.
 
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train

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Glad to see you on Mrs. Ferret...

So this is what your major studies are?... That's cool... do you watch CSI just to see the kinds of mistakes they make?...

As for the show, it's good enough drama for those of us that wouldn't know any better... and with virtual handshakes occurring(current MIT project), there's no telling what could be possible in the future...

Gas sample - his height - 6.1, wgt - 245, hair - brn, mother's maiden name - Longolia, 14th century ancestor - kin to Martin Luther... etc...;)

I guess it's all just hollywood when it comes to big network television... that may be why they keep the "real" CSI shows on smaller networks...

All I know is that william peterson was great in Young Guns 2 ;)
 

Ferret

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Yep, I'm about a year away from finishing my A.S. in crime scene technology. The whole "gas analysis" was just an example of how unrealistic the lab work in CSI is. I, like most people in the field in some way, do not watch it. It's the equivalent of being a seasoned programmer and having people tell you that they know how cool you are because they saw "Hackers" about 1000 times. But at least thanks to that show in some small way I don't have to explain what it is I'm going to school for.

This session I'm taking C.S. Safety and Advan. C.S.T. The safety course is an eye opener. I didn't realize how much at a scene could kill you or mess you up forever. I mean, I know what could do it on a common sense level, but handling things like pillows could kill you if just the right chemical or bodily fluid is on it and you weren't aware of it. :: shudder :: I have some very funny stories about crime scenes we've seen on slides and case files. We have a very disturbed sense of humour so maybe you wouldn't think it was that funny now that I think about it LOL

Eh, I hope to surpass the whole tech thing and go into the medical examiners office to tell the truth. Apparently, they are the undisputed God/desses of the scene. I'm just the kind of control freak to get off on that kind of power LOL

Dave mentioned that he would check with Ed later about the login problems I'm having. Thanks for y'alls concern ;)
 

Spiderman

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Well, wild claims aside, they usually break the stuff down to its components. What could be considered "unrealistic" is that the members seem to immediately know what substance is made up of those components, but since it seems they've been on the job for quite some time now, I give them the benefit of the doubt :)

Last night's episode was a hard one for my wife - she did NOT like the baby-in-the-car scene and plot. Everything else was okay for me - I think this is a case where they tried to do too much in one show and have everything wrap up neatly - three cases is a lot.
 
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train

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I thought the baby plot was okay... It does happen... and I think it was better than watching flashbacks or visions of them beating a child to death as some psycho people do...

Wha tI think was most dumb about it was that Grissom told Kat to treat the baby as if it were still alive, and then they placed it in the coroner's van, instead of an ambulance...

Sad to know the child did not have Tasex(sp?)...
 

Spiderman

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I know it happens and it's sad, it's just that that sort of thing hits my wife hard...

I thought that was kind of weird too... not sure of the reasoning and if it was because they wanted the spectators to think that it was alive, not sure why...
 
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train

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Extremely interesting to learn about some of this instinct business...

Anyone else want to Yiff?...

Edit - have you seen it yet spidey?..
 

Spiderman

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I saw you updated the thread but I didn't check since I didn't see the show...

Saw it over the weekend (although I still didn't see last week's show! :eek: ) and it was kind of funny, with the yiffing and skritching and fur piling :) Warrick didn't seem to make much of an appearance this show though.
 
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train

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Warrick was at his own yiff party!...

Didn't see this last episode...
 
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