States, ...what's the point?

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Rando

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Why has WotC and the DCI set it up so States mean nothing? Shouldn't the state champ go on to Nationals? Otherwise, what's the point?

We should start a petition to the DCI to make it so.
 
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Volradon

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hey btw r any of u going to the va state champs in richmond i am gona like ride my bike there that just awesome.
 
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Landkiller

Guest
Well, states may not mean cash, or advancing to anything else, but saying to someone, I came in second in the Prerelease sure doesn't say as much as, I came in second at the state championships!

The states tournament has a point because it keeps all those nasty Pro Players on their home turf. I got beat at a PTQ by Pro Players coming from elsewhere because "I'm not good enough to Qualify on the basis of my performance at home, so I'll just go to every Qualifier till I eventually win a slot."
<Landkiller feels that a player should be allowed to attend only one PTQ for any given PT. People don't get to go from country to country looking to be Olympic team members in their sports until they a nation lets them join? Right?>

Poor players like me can barely afford to go to any tournaments. Nobody wants those Pros' around, cleaning up the Championships. And so, there is no reward for a Pro to attend, because a Pro wouldn't play to get a Title or Pride, because titles and pride do not pay the bills. Pros play for cash.

[Edited by Landkiller on 11-01-00 at 09:07 PM]
 
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Gizmo

Guest
Glory, innit. Mind you, I`m from the UK so I can`t really comment.
 
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Zero

Guest
States doesent carry on to nationals anymore?
Hmmm...
Well, that seems counter productive.


SideNote:
have any of you heard the song "Anarchy in the UK" ?
 
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arhar

Guest
If a person would be able to attend only one PTQ, then every PT would have about 90% of the same people... That would be pretty boring! Right now, it's "If you have enough time and money to put into the game, you will eventually qualify." And everyone has a small chance of just coming into a random PTQ and winning it.
 

Spiderman

Administrator
Staff member
That's a good analogy, Landkiller.

arhar: Why do you say 90% of the people would be the same if the suggestion is implemented? Does the same person win the PTQs he/she enters, no matter what?

I would think there would be a different makeup each time, because since only 1 or 2 people can win a slot, that knocks out about 100+ (whatever the number is) immediately out of the running. You would REALLY have to playtest and make sure your deck is ready for this one-shot deal.

Of course, that would probably mean cheating and "unethical" play would be on the rise... but that shouldn't too much of a problem if there are already clear guidelines and rules in place.
 
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Rando

Guest
And the horrible Motley Crue remake "Anarchy in the USA" makes me want to puke.

Go Sid!
Go Johnny!

...well, I guess Sid isn't going anywhere.
 
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arhar

Guest
I meant there are some people that are q'ed for the Tour on the rating, and are constantly present on every PT: Price, Finkel, OMS brothers, Alex Shvartsman, Gary Wise, Igor Frayman .... And if WOTC would follow your suggestion, the number of these would increase
 

Spiderman

Administrator
Staff member
arhar: I still don't get what you're saying. They're q'ed on the rating? Do you mean their ranking? If so, how is that related to q'ing by PTQs?

And I don't know about the others, but apparently Price is notorious (or at least was last year) for having to go to multiple PTQs to qualify. If there was only a one-shot deal and he didn't make it the first time out, that's it. No more chances.
 
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