Sports League Season 4, Week 11: Melkor vs. rokapoke

Discussion in 'Games Run By CPA Members' started by Melkor, Jun 15, 2013.

  1. rokapoke Man Among Gods

    Untap, upkeep, draw.
    Done.


    Rokapoke: 11
    Hand: 5
    Library: 28
    Battlefield:

    (UUU) Mountain x3
    (U) Forest x1

    (U) Beastbreaker of Bala Ged ([Level 0: 2/2]; Human Warrior; Level Up 2G; Level 1-3 4/4; Level 4+ 6/6 Trample)
    (U) Lowland Basilisk (1/3; Basilisk; Whenever ~ deals damage to a creature, destroy that creature at end of combat.)

    Graveyard: Anaba Shaman
    Exile:
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Melkor: 15
    Hand: 3
    Library: 28
    Battlefield:

    (T) (T) (U) Plains x3
    (T) Island x1

    Humility (Each creature loses all abilities and is a 1/1 creature)

    (T) Soltari Trooper (1/1, Shadow, ~ gains +1/+1 when it attacks)
    (T) Minister of Impediments (1/1, T: Tap target creature)
    (S) Face Down Creature (2/2)

    Graveyard: Time Ebb, Tundra Wolves
    Exile:
  2. Melkor Active Member

    Untap, Upkeep, Draw

    Attack with all three, responses?

    Rokapoke: 11
    Hand: 5
    Library: 28
    Battlefield:

    (UUU) Mountain x3
    (U) Forest x1

    (U) Beastbreaker of Bala Ged ([Level 0: 2/2]; Human Warrior; Level Up 2G; Level 1-3 4/4; Level 4+ 6/6 Trample)
    (U) Lowland Basilisk (1/3; Basilisk; Whenever ~ deals damage to a creature, destroy that creature at end of combat.)

    Graveyard: Anaba Shaman
    Exile:
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Melkor: 15
    Hand: 4
    Library: 26
    Battlefield:

    (U) (U) (U) Plains x3
    (U) Island x1

    Humility (Each creature loses all abilities and is a 1/1 creature)

    (T) Soltari Trooper (1/1, Shadow, ~ gains +1/+1 when it attacks)
    (T) Minister of Impediments (1/1, T: Tap target creature)
    (T) Face Down Creature (2/2)

    Graveyard: Time Ebb, Tundra Wolves
    Exile:
  3. rokapoke Man Among Gods

    Sandstorm (G; Instant; ~ deals 1 damage to each attacking creature.).
  4. turgy22 Nothing Special

  5. Melkor Active Member

    Ward of Lights as an Instant giving my Face Down Creature protection from Green, responses?
  6. rokapoke Man Among Gods

    Nope.

    Incidentally, I assume the face-down creature cannot be morphed while Humility is in play. Is that accurate?
  7. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    I believe so. Humility removes the morph cost, so it cannot be turned face up via that way.
  8. Melkor Active Member

    I've been operating under the theory that it cannot be morphed.

    Take 1, done

    Rokapoke: 10
    Hand: 5
    Library: 28
    Battlefield:

    (UUU) Mountain x3
    (U) Forest x1

    (U) Beastbreaker of Bala Ged ([Level 0: 2/2]; Human Warrior; Level Up 2G; Level 1-3 4/4; Level 4+ 6/6 Trample)
    (U) Lowland Basilisk (1/3; Basilisk; Whenever ~ deals damage to a creature, destroy that creature at end of combat.)

    Graveyard: Anaba Shaman
    Exile:
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Melkor: 15
    Hand: 3
    Library: 26
    Battlefield:

    (T) (T) (U) Plains x3
    (U) Island x1

    Humility (Each creature loses all abilities and is a 1/1 creature)

    (T) Face Down Creature (2/2)

    Graveyard: Time Ebb, Tundra Wolves, Soltari Trooper, Minister of Impediments, Ward of Lights
    Exile:
  9. rokapoke Man Among Gods

    Untap, upkeep, draw.
    Attack with both.
    Responses?



    Rokapoke: 10
    Hand: 5
    Library: 27
    Battlefield:

    (UUU) Mountain x3
    (U) Forest x1

    (T) Beastbreaker of Bala Ged ([Level 0: 2/2]; Human Warrior; Level Up 2G; Level 1-3 4/4; Level 4+ 6/6 Trample)
    (T) Lowland Basilisk (1/3; Basilisk; Whenever ~ deals damage to a creature, destroy that creature at end of combat.)

    Graveyard: Anaba Shaman, Sandstorm
    Exile:
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Melkor: 15
    Hand: 3
    Library: 26
    Battlefield:

    (T) (T) (U) Plains x3
    (U) Island x1

    Humility (Each creature loses all abilities and is a 1/1 creature)

    (T) Face Down Creature (2/2)

    Graveyard: Time Ebb, Tundra Wolves, Soltari Trooper, Minister of Impediments, Ward of Lights
    Exile:
  10. Melkor Active Member

    No response
  11. rokapoke Man Among Gods

    Take 2.
    Wild Nacatl.
    Done.


    Rokapoke: 10
    Hand: 4
    Library: 27
    Battlefield:

    (UUU) Mountain x3
    (T) Forest x1

    (T) Beastbreaker of Bala Ged ([Level 0: 2/2]; Human Warrior; Level Up 2G; Level 1-3 4/4; Level 4+ 6/6 Trample)
    (T) Lowland Basilisk (1/3; Basilisk; Whenever ~ deals damage to a creature, destroy that creature at end of combat.)
    (S) Wild Nacatl (1/1; Cat Warrior; ~ gets +1/+1 as long as you control a Mountain. ~ gets +1/+1 as long as you control a Plains.)

    Graveyard: Anaba Shaman, Sandstorm
    Exile:
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Melkor: 13
    Hand: 3
    Library: 26
    Battlefield:

    (T) (T) (U) Plains x3
    (U) Island x1

    Humility (Each creature loses all abilities and is a 1/1 creature)

    (T) Face Down Creature (2/2)

    Graveyard: Time Ebb, Tundra Wolves, Soltari Trooper, Minister of Impediments, Ward of Lights
    Exile:
  12. Melkor Active Member

    Untap, Upkeep, Draw

    Cast Shinewend, done

    Rokapoke: 10
    Hand: 4
    Library: 27
    Battlefield:

    (UUU) Mountain x3
    (T) Forest x1

    (T) Beastbreaker of Bala Ged ([Level 0: 2/2]; Human Warrior; Level Up 2G; Level 1-3 4/4; Level 4+ 6/6 Trample)
    (T) Lowland Basilisk (1/3; Basilisk; Whenever ~ deals damage to a creature, destroy that creature at end of combat.)
    (S) Wild Nacatl (1/1; Cat Warrior; ~ gets +1/+1 as long as you control a Mountain. ~ gets +1/+1 as long as you control a Plains.)

    Graveyard: Anaba Shaman, Sandstorm
    Exile:
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Melkor: 13
    Hand: 3
    Library: 26
    Battlefield:

    (T) (T) (U) Plains x3
    (U) Island x1

    Humility (Each creature loses all abilities and is a 1/1 creature)

    (U) Face Down Creature (2/2)
    (S) Shinewend (0/0, Flying, ~ enters play with a +1/+1 counter on it, W1, Remove a +1/+1 counter from ~: Destroy target enchantment)

    Graveyard: Time Ebb, Tundra Wolves, Soltari Trooper, Minister of Impediments, Ward of Lights
    Exile:
  13. rokapoke Man Among Gods

    Untap, upkeep, draw.
    Attack with all 3.
    Responses/blocks?



    Rokapoke: 10
    Hand: 5
    Library: 26
    Battlefield:

    (UUU) Mountain x3
    (U) Forest x1

    (T) Beastbreaker of Bala Ged ([Level 0: 2/2]; Human Warrior; Level Up 2G; Level 1-3 4/4; Level 4+ 6/6 Trample)
    (T) Lowland Basilisk (1/3; Basilisk; Whenever ~ deals damage to a creature, destroy that creature at end of combat.)
    (T) Wild Nacatl (1/1; Cat Warrior; ~ gets +1/+1 as long as you control a Mountain. ~ gets +1/+1 as long as you control a Plains.)

    Graveyard: Anaba Shaman, Sandstorm
    Exile:
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Melkor: 13
    Hand: 3
    Library: 26
    Battlefield:

    (T) (T) (U) Plains x3
    (U) Island x1

    Humility (Each creature loses all abilities and is a 1/1 creature)

    (U) Face Down Creature (2/2)
    (S) Shinewend (0/0, Flying, ~ enters play with a +1/+1 counter on it, W1, Remove a +1/+1 counter from ~: Destroy target enchantment)

    Graveyard: Time Ebb, Tundra Wolves, Soltari Trooper, Minister of Impediments, Ward of Lights
    Exile:
  14. rokapoke Man Among Gods

    Um, just to be sure, Shinewend doesn't have his counter, right? Because of Humility?
  15. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    I believe that it does, since the 1/1 counter is not an ability
    Unlike cards with triggered abilities that trigger when they enter the battlefield, cards with this sort of text work so that they can produce an effect as a replacement effect to entering the battlefield. This happens on Painter's Servant, Meddling Mage and many other creatures and is important so that something like Arcbound Worker can have power and toughness when it is on the battlefield so it doesn't die to state based effects. Because this is not a static, triggered or activated ability, Humility does not touch it. The creature isn't even on the battlefield when this effect is happening.
  16. rokapoke Man Among Gods

    In light of this new information, I'm going to forego my attack.

    Untap, upkeep, draw.
    Mountain.
    Done.


    Rokapoke: 10
    Hand: 4
    Library: 26
    Battlefield:

    (UUUU) Mountain x4
    (U) Forest x1

    (U) Beastbreaker of Bala Ged ([Level 0: 2/2]; Human Warrior; Level Up 2G; Level 1-3 4/4; Level 4+ 6/6 Trample)
    (U) Lowland Basilisk (1/3; Basilisk; Whenever ~ deals damage to a creature, destroy that creature at end of combat.)
    (U) Wild Nacatl (1/1; Cat Warrior; ~ gets +1/+1 as long as you control a Mountain. ~ gets +1/+1 as long as you control a Plains.)

    Graveyard: Anaba Shaman, Sandstorm
    Exile:
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Melkor: 13
    Hand: 3
    Library: 26
    Battlefield:

    (T) (T) (U) Plains x3
    (U) Island x1

    Humility (Each creature loses all abilities and is a 1/1 creature)

    (U) Face Down Creature (2/2)
    (S) Shinewend (0/0, Flying, ~ enters play with a +1/+1 counter on it, W1, Remove a +1/+1 counter from ~: Destroy target enchantment) * 1 +1/+1 counter *

    Graveyard: Time Ebb, Tundra Wolves, Soltari Trooper, Minister of Impediments, Ward of Lights
    Exile:
  17. Melkor Active Member

    I've been operating under the assumption that it did get the counter for the whole sports league

    Untap, Upkeep, Draw

    Island, cast Belltower Spinx, done

    Rokapoke: 10
    Hand: 4
    Library: 26
    Battlefield:

    (UUUU) Mountain x4
    (U) Forest x1

    (U) Beastbreaker of Bala Ged ([Level 0: 2/2]; Human Warrior; Level Up 2G; Level 1-3 4/4; Level 4+ 6/6 Trample)
    (U) Lowland Basilisk (1/3; Basilisk; Whenever ~ deals damage to a creature, destroy that creature at end of combat.)
    (U) Wild Nacatl (1/1; Cat Warrior; ~ gets +1/+1 as long as you control a Mountain. ~ gets +1/+1 as long as you control a Plains.)

    Graveyard: Anaba Shaman, Sandstorm
    Exile:
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Melkor: 13
    Hand: 3
    Library: 25
    Battlefield:

    (T) (T) (T) Plains x3
    (T) (T) Island x2

    Humility (Each creature loses all abilities and is a 1/1 creature)

    (U) Face Down Creature (2/2)
    (U) Shinewend (0/0, Flying, ~ enters play with a +1/+1 counter on it, W1, Remove a +1/+1 counter from ~: Destroy target enchantment) * 1 +1/+1 counter *
    (S) Belltower Sphinx (2/5, Flying, whenever a source deals damage to ~, that sources controller puts that many cards from the top of his or her library into the graveyard)

    Graveyard: Time Ebb, Tundra Wolves, Soltari Trooper, Minister of Impediments, Ward of Lights
    Exile:
  18. rokapoke Man Among Gods

    But that only works because of the wording, right? "Shinewend enters the battlefield with..." What about "when XXXXX enters the battlefield"? Do those work too?

    In case it's not blatantly obvious, I don't find Humility all that straightforward anymore...

    Regardless, my turn is straightforward.


    Untap, upkeep, draw.
    Forest.
    Nessian Courser.
    Done.


    Rokapoke: 10
    Hand: 3
    Library: 25
    Battlefield:

    (UUUU) Mountain x4
    (UU) Forest x2

    (U) Beastbreaker of Bala Ged ([Level 0: 2/2]; Human Warrior; Level Up 2G; Level 1-3 4/4; Level 4+ 6/6 Trample)
    (U) Lowland Basilisk (1/3; Basilisk; Whenever ~ deals damage to a creature, destroy that creature at end of combat.)
    (U) Wild Nacatl (1/1; Cat Warrior; ~ gets +1/+1 as long as you control a Mountain. ~ gets +1/+1 as long as you control a Plains.)
    (S) Nessian Courser (3/3; Centaur Warrior)

    Graveyard: Anaba Shaman, Sandstorm
    Exile:
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Melkor: 13
    Hand: 3
    Library: 25
    Battlefield:

    (T) (T) (T) Plains x3
    (T) (T) Island x2

    Humility (Each creature loses all abilities and is a 1/1 creature)

    (U) Face Down Creature (2/2)
    (U) Shinewend (0/0, Flying, ~ enters play with a +1/+1 counter on it, W1, Remove a +1/+1 counter from ~: Destroy target enchantment) * 1 +1/+1 counter *
    (S) Belltower Sphinx (2/5, Flying, whenever a source deals damage to ~, that sources controller puts that many cards from the top of his or her library into the graveyard)

    Graveyard: Time Ebb, Tundra Wolves, Soltari Trooper, Minister of Impediments, Ward of Lights
    Exile:
  19. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    No, they are triggered abilities.
  20. turgy22 Nothing Special

    Humility has always been a very straightforward card. It's the 6279 cards that it has odd interactions with that aren't straightforward.

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