...just passing by...
I think it's hilarious, all of this. Very entertaining.
Gizmo, I think the reason why everyone seems to be on your case is because you already said what you had to say when you replied to Istanbul's article in the article page. Then you started this thread for...what...?
I think Istanbul does like to talk and hear the echo of his voice in an empty room, but so do you and you've only proved it with your unrelenting desire to have everyone see "the truth" that they don't want to see, or care to see, for that matter.
You're right, after all - this place is not serious at all - therefore you have no reason to be here if you are going to want some serious, thoughtful and thought-invoking discussions. Need I mention the post-9/11 drivel and nonsense that was posted when the plainest truth was rather simpler to see than ever before, and yet was overlooked altogether?...It proves the point.
I personally don’t mind this place and find it amusing every now and then, but other than that, it adds nothing to me any more, so…behold the solution: I stopped coming here as often. You’re doing the same, it seems, but when you comeback, it is as if you comeback to stir up some overly serious discussion, or the need thereof, not with civil manners, might I add, and then just slowly dwindle again.
The point being: even if you have a point (and I am no judge of your points as I don't care for Sligh, or Red), no one cares here, and if you don’t, it’s all the same. In conclusion, find another place that lives up to your expectations, as I hope you have better things to do than wasting your time trying to prove your points in a lighthearted atmosophere in which this game is only played lightheartedly.