Random Block Constructed(RBC)

[Gizmo]

And is that 4 cards as in 4 different cards, or 4 cards as in 4 pieces of cardboard? So do my 4 Academies mean I lose my 4 Time Spirals? I assume that`s what you mean.
And I assume not counting basic land.

Hmm - thinking Necro.
Because any good player thinks of Necro whenever he gets the chance.

 

[John`O]

I think the obvious easy thing to build
is Pandeburst, basically you can use
the same deck that was played in 1.X
just with different land.

You can probably do somthing with
Academy+Jar+Bargain etc
but quite hard to get this deck
to work right.


John

 

[Baskil]

4 Vine Dryads(MM)
4 Wild Dogs(US)
4 Rancor(UL)
4 Elvish Spirit Guide(AI)
4 Spectral Bears(HM)
4 Rogue Elephant (WL)
4 Skyshroud Elite (EX)
2 Kavu Titan (IN)
4 Giant Growth(IA)
4 Wild Might(PY)
4 Cursed Scroll (TE)
2 Yavimaya Hollow (UD)
16 Forest

 

[Captain Caveman]

No cards from the basic set(s)are allowed.(e.i.4th, 5th, 6th)The sets John`O listed are what I meant.

"So do my 4 Academies mean I lose my 4 Time Spirals?"

Yes sir, that's what I was trying to say.

Basic land are excluded from the four card limit.


I'm afraid Jar, 21 and CrabCraft still might be broken. What do you guy's think? I was hoping that
without Dual Lands, and a four card limit, that might be enough to give other decks a chance.

Forgot one: Fruity Pebbles!?


I'll try to post some decks later tonight.

Caveman

 

[Captain Caveman]

You know, I thought this was going to be easy but its more difficult to embellish those existing
structures than I though.(atleast for me) Everytime I think I've got a good idea that four card limit
keeps rearing its ugly head. For example I figured PandeBurst would be easy to build. I get this far:


(NE)4 Saproling Burst
(EX)4 Pandemonium
(IA)4 Demonic Consultation
(TM)4 Intuition
(US)4 Duress
(AL)4 Force of Will
(UD)4 Replenish
(UL)4 Frantic Search

...than I run out of choices, after I consider non-basic land. Without Dual lands its a little more
difficult to build. Of course I'm a bad deckbuilder so my decklist probably isn't very good to begin with.

Something else that keeps coming up is, do I play with 4 of the same card from a set or do I choose
different cards that total up to 4.

Blab, blab, blab,


Re: Baskil

Looks good to me. Do you think less land + Land Grant would be a good idea?

Caveman

 

[Istanbul]

Here's Saga/Nemesis/Exodus...

22x Island
3x Morphling
3x Dominate
4x Counterspell
4x Forbid
4x Rewind
3x Power Sink
2x Null Brooch
4x Fog Bank
3x Treasure Trove
4x Accumulated Knowledge
4x Tangle Wire

SB:
3x Back to Basics
3x Energy Field
3x Hibernation
3x Douse
3x Daze

[Edited by Istanbul on 01-26-01 at 12:52 AM]

 

[Gizmo]

Umm... you can use all the sets. I don`t think you quite got the point Isty.

ie.

4 Counterspell (IA)
4 Force Of Will (AL)
3 Forbid (EX)
3 Mana Leak (ST)
2 Annul (US) - likely to be some brokenness to counter
1 Daze (NM)

4 Impulse (VS)

4 Ophidian (WL)
1 Masticore (UD)
1 Morphling (US)

3 Powder Keg (UD)
3 Legacy`s Allure (TM)
1 Capsize (TM)

2 Faerie Conclave (UL)
4 Rishadan Port (MM)
20 Island

 

[John`O]

4 Counterspell IA
4 Force of Will AL
4 Impulse VI
4 Ophidian WL
4 Mana Leak ST
2 Forbid EX
2 Morphling US
3 Powder Keg UD
1 Masticore UD
2 Thwart MM
2 Foil PY
4 Opt IN
4 Wasteland TE
2 Faerie Conclave UL
18 Island

Bascially same deck as Dave.
I decided wasteland over port
and more counters over allure.
Could have Annul I suppose.
Misses Glacier.



Hard to build fast pebbles
because you want lots of IA cards.
Probably worse than Pandeburst I suppose,
but I rather like Necropoebbles...

2 Enduring Renewal IA
2 Necropotence IA
4 Shield Sphere AL
1 Phyrexian Walker MI
3 Dark Ritual MI
4 Vampiric Tutor VI
4 Gemstone Mine WL
4 Goblin Bombardment TE
4 Mox Diamond ST
2 Phyrexian Tower US
2 Duress US
4 Academy Rector UD
4 Peat Bog MM
1 Seal of Cleansing NM
3 Addle IN
4 Diabolic Intent PS
7 Swamp
4 Plains
1 Mountain



TS misses Trop Island and Land Grant
(and BoP)
and hasn't really got the mana for Counterspell.

1 Brainstorm IA
3 Fyndhorn Elves IA
4 Force of Will AL
4 Tradewind Rider TE
2 Spike Feeder ST
1 Wall of Blossoms ST
4 Survival EX
4 Wall of Roots MI
2 Quirion Ranger VI
1 Uktabi Orangutang VI
1 Man O'War VI
4 Gemstone Mine WL
1 Morphling US
1 Elvish Lyrist US
3 Miscalculation UL
1 Deranged Hermit UL
1 Masticore UD
1 Squee MM
3 Brainstorm MM
11 Forest
7 Island


Maybe the Morphling should be a Priest of Titania.


John

 

[Istanbul]

Gizmo - You're very right. If you can use all sets, how is this different from Type 1?

 

[Gizmo]

Did you read ANY of the post?


1. All sets from Ice Age forward.
2. No more that 4 cards from each set
3. No banned cards.

Whereas T1 is
1. All cards. Ever. Even promos.
2. No limit on set participation
3. HUGE banned/resrticted list.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Here are some of my ideas for the new block. They're probably to reliant on non-basic land to work.

Has anybody "broken" Dream Halls, yet? I thought for sure someone would. I've tryed to build one with multi-color
spells but it comes out really bad. Oh well!




WHITE WEENIE
2 Soltari Priest(TM)
2 Soltari Monk(TM)
4 Steadfast Guard(MM)
4 Mother of Runes(UL)
3 Chimeric Idol(PY)
4 Tithe(VS)
4 Empyrial Armor(WL)
4 Warrior en-Kor(SH)
3 Swords To Plowshares(IA)
3 Disenchant(US)
3 Mtenda Herder(MI)
1 Soul Warden(EX)
3 Cataclysm(EX)
18 Plains


Oath(w/o abundance combo)
1 Morphling(US)
3 Counterspell(US)
1 Spike Feeder(SH)
1 Verdant Touch(SH)
1 Spike Weaver(EX)
1 Forbid(EX)
2 Oath of Druids(EX)
1 Sterling Grove(IN)
2 Coastal Tower(IN)
1 Elfhame Palace(IN)
1 Aura of Silence(WL)
2 Gaea's Blessing(WL)
1 Null Rod(WL)
2 Brainstorm(MM)
1 Ivory Mask(MM)
1 Trade Routes(MM)
4 Enlightened Tutor(MI)
4 Force of Will(AL)
1 Undiscovered Paradise(VS)
3 Impulse(VS)
2 Brainstorm(IA)
2 Swords to Plowshares(IA)
2 Mirri'a Guile(TM)
2 Wasteland(TM)
3 Treetop Village(UL)
1 Faerie Conclave(UL)
4 Plains
3 Forest
7 Island



SqueeBind
1 Avalanche Rider(UL)
1 Deranged Hermit(UL)
2 Treetop Village(UL)
3 Spike Feeder(SH)
1 Wall of Blossoms(SH)
1 Elvish Lyrist(US)
3 Gaea's Cradle(US)
3 Masticore(UD)
1 Yavimaya Elder(UD)
1 Stampeding Wildebeests(VS)
2 Uktabi Orangutan(VS)
1 River Boa(VS)
1 Spike Weaver(EX)
3 Survival of the Fittest(EX)
4 Squee, Goblin Nabob(MM)
4 Wall of Roots(MI)
4 Stormbind(IA)
2 Shivan Oasis(IN)
2 Kavu Titan(IN)
1 Firestorm(WL)
1 Mogg Hollows(TM)
3 Wasteland(TM)
10 Forest
5 Mountain


Turboland
4 Force of Will(AL)
4 Counterspell(IA)
3 Impulse(VS)
1 Summer's Bloom(VS)
4 Gush(MM)
1 Scroll Rack(TM)
2 Time Warp(TM)
1 Bottle Gnomes(TM)
2 Gaea's Blessing(WL)
2 Gemstone Mine(WL)
1 Morphling(US)
3 Exploration(US)
1 Spike Weaver(EX)
3 Oath of Druids(EX)
4 Horn of Greed(SH)
1 Treetop Village(UL)
14 Island
7 Forest


PandeBurst
3 Saproling Burst(NM)
3 Pandemonium(EX)
1 City of Traitors(EX)
3 Mystical Tutor(MI)
1 Crystal Vein(MI)
3 Demonic Consultation(IA)
1 Underground River(IA)
4 Brainstorm(MM)
4 Intuition(TM)
4 Duress(US)
4 Force of Will(AL)
4 Replenish(UD)
4 Frantic Search(UL)
1 Vision Charm(VS)
2 Undiscovered Paradise(VS)
4 Coastal Tower(IN)
4 Gemstone Mine(WL)
1 Mountain
4 Swamp
2 Plains
3 Island

 

[Captain Caveman]

POX
4 Pox(IA)
3 Mox Diamond(SH)
4 Dark Ritual(MI)
4 Cursed Scroll(TM)
4 Addle(IN)
4 Duress(US)
4 Vicious Hunger(NM)(something else?)
4 Chimeric Idol(PY)(no synergy w/Ports and Scroll)
3 Funeral Charm(VS)
1 Kaevek's Spite(VS)
2 Spinning Darkness(WL)

19 Swamp
4 Rishadan Port(MM)

 

[Captain Caveman]

Ponza
4 Avalanche Rider(UL)
4 Pillage(AL)
4 Stone Rain(MI)
4 Incinerate(IA)
4 Shock(SH)
4 Seal of Fire(NM)
4 Cursed Scroll(TM)
2 Fault Line(US)
2 Lightning Dragon(US)
3 Masticore(UD)
1 Sowing Salt(UD)
4 Rishadan Port(MM)
3 City of Traitors(EX)
17 Mountain

 

[Gizmo]

I`m not sure such a wide field helps you learn how to deckbuild either, though. It is really more of an exercise in creating broken combos which is a completely different experience to deckbuilding as I found to my cost.

For more information see:
Me, PT-Rome, Reap-Lace, complete failure of.