Mindmaster Ravnica: Spidey vs. Limited

Discussion in 'Mindmaster Games' started by Ransac, Apr 26, 2007.

  1. Limited Yes, but we won't care

    No, I'll tap my Mountain and Signet to give the Transluminant First Strike.

    First strike damage on the stack?
  2. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    Ugh, yep. It resolves if you have nothing else. My Centaur dies.

    Regular dmg on stack? Resolves?
  3. Limited Yes, but we won't care

    Yes. I take three.
  4. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    Sorry, if it's all right with you, I'd like to gain three from my Centaur going to the graveyard.

    Forest
    Elemental Bramble

    Done

    Spidey: 20
    Hand: 10
    In Play:

    (T) Plains
    (T) Mt
    (T,T) Forest x2
    (T) Island

    (U) Boros Recruit (1/1, first strike)
    (T) Greater Mossdog (3/3)
    (S) Elemental Bramble (4/4, when an Aura is attached to ~, put 2 1/1 green Saproling tokens into play)

    Graveyard: Boros Swiftblade, Centaur Safeguard
    RFG:

    Limited: 13
    Hand: 12
    In Play:

    (U) Plains
    (T) Island
    (T) Mountain
    (T) Forest

    (T) Boros Signet [1, T: Add WR]

    (U) Boros Guildmage (2/2) [1W: Target creature gains first strike ueot. 1R: Target creature gains haste]
    (S) Transluminant (2/2) [W, Sac: Put a 1/1 white Spirit creature token with flying into play at eot]

    Graveyard: Torpid Moloch
    RFG:
  5. Limited Yes, but we won't care

    Untap, Upkeep

    Swamp
    Infectious Host

    Done.


    Spidey: 20
    Hand: 10
    In Play:

    (T) Plains
    (T) Mt
    (T,T) Forest x2
    (T) Island

    (U) Boros Recruit (1/1, first strike)
    (T) Greater Mossdog (3/3)
    (S) Elemental Bramble (4/4, when an Aura is attached to ~, put 2 1/1 green Saproling tokens into play)

    Graveyard: Boros Swiftblade, Centaur Safeguard
    RFG:

    Limited: 13
    Hand: 12
    In Play:

    (U) Plains
    (T) Island
    (T) Swamp
    (U) Mountain
    (T) Forest

    (U) Boros Signet [1, T: Add WR]

    (U) Boros Guildmage (2/2) [1W: Target creature gains first strike ueot. 1R: Target creature gains haste]
    (U) Transluminant (2/2) [W, Sac: Put a 1/1 white Spirit creature token with flying into play at eot]
    (S) Infectious Host (1/1) [When Infectious Host is put into a graveyard from play, target player loses 2 life]

    Graveyard: Torpid Moloch
    RFG:
  6. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    Untap, Upkeep

    Attack with the Mossdog and Elemental
    Responses/blocks?

    Spidey: 20
    Hand: 10
    In Play:

    (U) Plains
    (U) Mt
    (U,U) Forest x2
    (U) Island

    (U) Boros Recruit (1/1, first strike)
    (T) Greater Mossdog (3/3)
    (T) Elemental Bramble (4/4, when an Aura is attached to ~, put 2 1/1 green Saproling tokens into play)

    Graveyard: Boros Swiftblade, Centaur Safeguard
    RFG:

    Limited: 13
    Hand: 12
    In Play:

    (U) Plains
    (T) Island
    (T) Swamp
    (U) Mountain
    (T) Forest

    (U) Boros Signet [1, T: Add WR]

    (U) Boros Guildmage (2/2) [1W: Target creature gains first strike ueot. 1R: Target creature gains haste]
    (U) Transluminant (2/2) [W, Sac: Put a 1/1 white Spirit creature token with flying into play at eot]
    (S) Infectious Host (1/1) [When Infectious Host is put into a graveyard from play, target player loses 2 life]

    Graveyard: Torpid Moloch
    RFG:
  7. Limited Yes, but we won't care

    Block Mossdog with Infectious Host

    Pass priority
  8. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    Since I have priority first as the active player, does that mean dmg on the stack, assuming I pass?

    Anyway, dmg on the stack? Dmg resolves?
  9. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    No. The opponent(s) have to pass also.
  10. Limited Yes, but we won't care

    I meant to indicate I was done declaring blockers..

    Before damage is on the stack, I'll tap my mountain and the Signet to cast Fiery Conclusion, saccing the Infectious Host, to deal five damage to the Bramble Elemental.
    You'd also lose two life.

    Responses?
  11. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    Mooseman: I know, but since Limited is my opponent and already indicated that he passed priority, I was assuming he meant that dmg could go on the stack if I passed priority and is first after Declaring Blockers.

    I have no responses. He's gone and combat is effectively over :(

    Island
    Golgari Brownscale

    Done

    Spidey: 18
    Hand: 9
    In Play:

    (T) Plains
    (U) Mt
    (T,T) Forest x2
    (U,U) Island x2

    (U) Boros Recruit (1/1, first strike)
    (T) Greater Mossdog (3/3)
    (S) Golgari Brownscale (2/3, when ~ is put into a graveyard from play, I gain 2 life)

    Graveyard: Boros Swiftblade, Centaur Safeguard, Elemental Bramble
    RFG:

    Limited: 13
    Hand: 11
    In Play:

    (U) Plains
    (T) Island
    (T) Swamp
    (T) Mountain
    (T) Forest

    (T) Boros Signet [1, T: Add WR]

    (U) Boros Guildmage (2/2) [1W: Target creature gains first strike ueot. 1R: Target creature gains haste]
    (U) Transluminant (2/2) [W, Sac: Put a 1/1 white Spirit creature token with flying into play at eot]

    Graveyard: Torpid Moloch, Fiery Conclusion, Infectious Host
    RFG:
  12. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    Just to clairify what I was saying (although Limited did not have to pass priority to you)
    309. Declare Blockers Step

    309.1. As the declare blockers step begins, the defending player declares blockers (this game action doesn’t use the stack). Then any abilities that triggered on blockers being declared go on the stack. (See rule 410, “Handling Triggered Abilities.”) Then the active player gets priority and players may play spells and abilities.


    Once both players pass on an empty stack then the game enters the next step.
  13. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    I know. Limited was just pre-empting me asking "Dmg on the stack? Dmg resolves" where since he posted he passed, I could immediately go to the dmg step if I passed also, instead of waiting for an extra post from him.

    Although it was good I clarified, since it turned out he DID have effects after blockers...
  14. Limited Yes, but we won't care

    I should have just posted my block, but wondered if you wanted to play anything before damage on the stack. Sorry for the confusion.
  15. Limited Yes, but we won't care

    Btw, the Brownscales ability is bit different. You gain life when you return it to your hand.

    Untap, Upkeep

    Island
    Tidewater Minion

    Done.

    Spidey: 18
    Hand: 9
    In Play:

    (T) Plains
    (U) Mt
    (T,T) Forest x2
    (U,U) Island x2

    (U) Boros Recruit (1/1, first strike)
    (T) Greater Mossdog (3/3)
    (S) Golgari Brownscale (2/3, when ~ is returned to your hand from your graveyard, gain 2 life)

    Graveyard: Boros Swiftblade, Centaur Safeguard, Elemental Bramble
    RFG:

    Limited: 13
    Hand: 8
    In Play:

    (U) Plains
    (TT) 2x Island
    (T) Swamp
    (U) Mountain
    (T) Forest

    (T) Boros Signet [1, T: Add WR]

    (U) Boros Guildmage (2/2) [1W: Target creature gains first strike ueot. 1R: Target creature gains haste]
    (U) Transluminant (2/2) [W, Sac: Put a 1/1 white Spirit creature token with flying into play at eot]
    (S) Tidewater Minion (4/4) [Defender. T: Untap target permanent. 4: Loses defender ueot]

    Graveyard: Torpid Moloch, Infectious Host, Fiery Conclusion
    RFG:
  16. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    Untap, Upkeep

    Mt
    Carven Caryatid

    Done.

    Spidey: 18
    Hand: 8
    In Play:

    (T) Plains
    (U,U) Mt x2
    (T,T) Forest x2
    (U,U) Island x2

    (U) Boros Recruit (1/1, first strike)
    (U) Greater Mossdog (3/3)
    (U) Golgari Brownscale (2/3, when ~ is returned to your hand from your graveyard, gain 2 life)
    (S) Carven Caryatid (2/5, defender)

    Graveyard: Boros Swiftblade, Centaur Safeguard, Elemental Bramble
    RFG:

    Limited: 13
    Hand: 8
    In Play:

    (U) Plains
    (TT) 2x Island
    (T) Swamp
    (U) Mountain
    (T) Forest

    (T) Boros Signet [1, T: Add WR]

    (U) Boros Guildmage (2/2) [1W: Target creature gains first strike ueot. 1R: Target creature gains haste]
    (U) Transluminant (2/2) [W, Sac: Put a 1/1 white Spirit creature token with flying into play at eot]
    (S) Tidewater Minion (4/4) [Defender. T: Untap target permanent. 4: Loses defender ueot]

    Graveyard: Torpid Moloch, Infectious Host, Fiery Conclusion
    RFG:
  17. Limited Yes, but we won't care

    That is one nasty blocker :(

    Untap, Upkeep

    Dimir Aqueduct (returning an Island to my hand)

    Done.


    Spidey: 18
    Hand: 8
    In Play:

    (T) Plains
    (U,U) Mt x2
    (T,T) Forest x2
    (U,U) Island x2

    (U) Boros Recruit (1/1, first strike)
    (U) Greater Mossdog (3/3)
    (U) Golgari Brownscale (2/3, when ~ is returned to your hand from your graveyard, gain 2 life)
    (S) Carven Caryatid (2/5, defender)

    Graveyard: Boros Swiftblade, Centaur Safeguard, Elemental Bramble
    RFG:

    Limited: 13
    Hand: 8
    In Play:

    (U) Plains
    (U) Island
    (U) Swamp
    (U) Mountain
    (U) Forest
    (T) Dimir Aqueduct (T: UB)

    (U) Boros Signet [1, T: Add WR]

    (U) Boros Guildmage (2/2) [1W: Target creature gains first strike ueot. 1R: Target creature gains haste]
    (U) Transluminant (2/2) [W, Sac: Put a 1/1 white Spirit creature token with flying into play at eot]
    (U) Tidewater Minion (4/4) [Defender. T: Untap target permanent. 4: Loses defender ueot]

    Graveyard: Torpid Moloch, Infectious Host, Fiery Conclusion
    RFG:
  18. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    Just for you :)

    Untap, Upkeep

    Mt

    Done.


    Spidey: 18
    Hand: 8
    In Play:

    (U) Plains
    (U,U,U) Mt x3
    (U,U) Forest x2
    (U,U) Island x2

    (U) Boros Recruit (1/1, first strike)
    (U) Greater Mossdog (3/3)
    (U) Golgari Brownscale (2/3, when ~ is returned to your hand from your graveyard, gain 2 life)
    (U) Carven Caryatid (2/5, defender)

    Graveyard: Boros Swiftblade, Centaur Safeguard, Elemental Bramble
    RFG:

    Limited: 13
    Hand: 8
    In Play:

    (U) Plains
    (U) Island
    (U) Swamp
    (U) Mountain
    (U) Forest
    (T) Dimir Aqueduct (T: UB)

    (U) Boros Signet [1, T: Add WR]

    (U) Boros Guildmage (2/2) [1W: Target creature gains first strike ueot. 1R: Target creature gains haste]
    (U) Transluminant (2/2) [W, Sac: Put a 1/1 white Spirit creature token with flying into play at eot]
    (U) Tidewater Minion (4/4) [Defender. T: Untap target permanent. 4: Loses defender ueot]

    Graveyard: Torpid Moloch, Infectious Host, Fiery Conclusion
    RFG:
  19. Limited Yes, but we won't care

    During your postcombat main phase, I'll pac W and sac my Transluminant.
    At the end of your turn, I get an 1/1 token.

    Untap, Upkeep,

    Attack with Token

    Blocks? Responses?

    Spidey: 18
    Hand: 8
    In Play:

    (U) Plains
    (U,U,U) Mt x3
    (U,U) Forest x2
    (U,U) Island x2

    (U) Boros Recruit (1/1, first strike)
    (U) Greater Mossdog (3/3)
    (U) Golgari Brownscale (2/3, when ~ is returned to your hand from your graveyard, gain 2 life)
    (U) Carven Caryatid (2/5, defender)

    Graveyard: Boros Swiftblade, Centaur Safeguard, Elemental Bramble
    RFG:

    Limited: 13
    Hand: 8
    In Play:

    (U) Plains
    (U) Island
    (U) Swamp
    (U) Mountain
    (U) Forest
    (U) Dimir Aqueduct (T: Add UB)

    (U) Boros Signet [1, T: Add WR]

    (U) Boros Guildmage (2/2) [1W: Target creature gains first strike ueot. 1R: Target creature gains haste]
    (U) Tidewater Minion (4/4) [Defender. T: Untap target permanent. 4: Loses defender ueot]
    (T) Spirit (1/1) Token [Flying]

    Graveyard: Torpid Moloch, Infectious Host, Fiery Conclusion, Transluminant
    RFG:
  20. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    Going to the sky, eh? No blocks or responses; take it.

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