help me get 4BB quickly for my combo!

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13NoVa

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I need to cast a buried alive and a victimize by 2nd to third turn because i want to be the first person to use polar kraken, effectively, in a deck.

this is what im thinking so far

2 polar kraken
2 krosan colossus
4 buried alive (Combo piece #1)
4 victimize (Combo piece #2)
4 ornithopter
4 phyrexian walker
4 shield sphere
2 vamp/demonic tutor
2 Necro/bargain
4 dark ritual
4 lake of the dead
1 avalanche riders
1 (the flying enchantment destroyer)
1 sex monkeys

any idea's on what i can do to improve on this?


the idea is to buried alive a kraken, a colossus, and whatever else looks like fun, then Victimize (sac a critter, put 2 from the grave into play, tapped) a 0cc critter to get the kill (kraken and colossus) or get the fun cards if needed (land D, enchantment D, Artifact D).

i want to speed it up, without the use of a mox.

any ideas?

this is gunna be a tournament deck by the way.


the tournament environment:

there is no real metagame. EVERY deck is rogue.
there is no power whatsoever. this includes type ALL 1 power cards (wheel of fortune is rare, no p9, no abyss, ect)
there are a couple vagina 's who play counterspell. Not control, counterspell. im talking the 4 of every counterspell besides mana drain...literally. its like 20 lands, 36 counterspells, and 4 rootwater thieves)
the normal top 3 decks are always one of these:
in no order

-whatever deck i decide to play
-sligh
-white weenie
-false cure (don't laugh, the deck is really good)
-land destruction (old school black LD)
-elves (with tradewind riders, morphling, stroke, mind over matter, and blue support)
 
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Academy Man

Guest
There is Cabal Ritual. To fight counters, you can use overmaster or orims chant/abeyance. Exume is good. I will think of over stuff later.
 
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mythosx

Guest
power conduit...always power conduit... man that card is just too much fun
 
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Istanbul

Guest
Yeah! Power Conduit is neat.

But, uh...how does it belong in this deck in any way?

Consider Ebon Strongholds and Peat Bogs for good acceleration.
 
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DeathMaster666

Guest
Dark Ritual is always good, and if you can fill your graveyard, try Cabal Ritual.
Also, try Lotus Petal, City of Traitors, Ancient Tomb, Grim Monolith, etc.
 
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train

Guest
Cumulative Upkeep
Cumulative upkeep is a triggered ability. “Cumulative upkeep [cost]” means “At the beginning of your upkeep, put an age counter on this permanent, then sacrifice this permanent unless you pay [cost] for each age counter on it.” Note that if a permanent has more than one instance of cumulative upkeep, each creates a separate triggered ability at the beginning of upkeep that counts all the age counters on the permanent from both abilities. See rule 502.13, “Cumulative Upkeep.”

the conduit removes counters... ;)
 
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train

Guest
Since you're going to have the cheap creatures anyway - Culling the week...
 
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Rooser

Guest
The way this is structured, Peat Bog is a very good choice. Culling the weak is a nice idea too, but the four mana might be a bit unweildy. Cabal Ritual would probably be better ... especially is you're running Peat Bogs!
 
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train

Guest
priest of gix, culling the gix, and you still have 6 mana left...

but gix would have to be added to the deck...

Might as well use him, the peat bogs, and lake of the dead all in a nice balance...
 
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Rooser

Guest
Actually, that's spicy tuna.

Priest of Gix could have some hilarious interactions with this stuff.
 
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train

Guest
Spicy Tuna sounds like a neat name for a deck to win worlds with...
 
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Reverend Love

Guest
I REALLY like Trains idea of Culling the Weak. Cathodion, Su-Chi...those could really spead this hog beast up.

spead=speed
 
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train

Guest
and culling is a common, easily found in nickel boxes...

Culling is how I guarantee a 2nd or 3rd turn kill every game with hatred...

Well... almost every game - every now and then I have to go 4 turns...:rolleyes:

:cool:
 
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