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Spiderman

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It's okay, same vein as the stuff here (I guess it's more "tourney oriented" which is why you sent it there?)
 
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DÛke

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I don't pay attention to Magic...or articles about it at all, so I tend to like your cartoons a little better. I actually like all the one's I've seen. But in this latest one of yours, I guess...one thing caught me off guard, a thing which I noticed to occur and recur in the Magic realm of things: when a StarCity fanatic, for example, or anyone who is obsessed with the game attempts quarter-wittedly to identify what is "geeky" and what is not. As far as my closed mind goes...I've always considered StarCity to be the geek haven...

I think I might have heard once or twice how “the Ferrett” accused someone or another of being “geeky.” Any half-wit, on the other hand, can experience the sensual, and free pleasure of all that is geeky at the sight of this Ferrett giving advice on “how to write a Magic article.” Oh – and you get to have a shot at winning fifty lumpy bucks. As soon as life seems to begin anew, the air fresh (fantasies of buying some soap, maybe?), you get to confront a greater, self-fulfilling fantasy: the fifty bucks may only be used towards free Magic cards! Yes! You know, I wish I was geeky enough to write a “winning” article (which, in life, is a losing article, actually), only to reject that fifty or so bucks.

Did I mention how the folks at StarCity have recurring fantasies of becoming pimps? Hence:
StarCity’s own Ferrett:

It probably seems like a real good idea to maximize your chances by sending your article to all of the major sites at once...Until you realize that we all want our own, exclusive articles. Most of the articles I've seen that were sent to every site never got published - and besides, to win the weekly contest it must be exclusive.
In short: be my whore. Someone please tell them that this “we want our own” doesn’t cover “we,” but they, the wannabe pimps above anyone else.

Now don't get me wrong and all, I like Magic "and stuff," but...the level of seriousness which sites like StarCity exhibit is really unclean and geeky par excellence. The simple mentioning of "StarCity" sounds downright filthy...the name itself is equivalent to "dirty."

I'm glad we have people who take Magic just a sigh less seriously, like SeFRo. It immediately cleans the name of Magic...which is a bad thing amongst StarCity for obvious reasons...

Don't get me started with the "featured" writers...or the "winners"...or the "good players"...or the "legends"...or the "reports."

Here's a report: you need a bath. But that's the least to mention...
 
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DÛke

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...I should write them an article about how "good" they are...

I forgot to mention my general dislike for MTGO. I still have nightmares in which I am a customer paying my hard earned Benjamins for Serras...yes, that's Serras, with a special emphasis on the S at the end - Magic Player says: "You kannnt have 2 mani sarass. They get spoiled...and soiled...after you use them, u no?"

My question to MTGO users: how do you do it? Is it an "instinctive" type of thing? Is it an acquired taste? Is it too much green and not much flying colors? What's your secret? And above all, is it contagious - this illne...er...I mean, this secret?

Do you think they'll accept an article shaming down all Magic "legends" and notorious names, including Ferrett?
 
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rkoelsch

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Yeah they gave it out to those you logged on the day before the scourge release tourneys as a celebration of 1 year anniversary.
 
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Nightstalkers

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Sorry, but I don't really pay attention to any articles on the site unless they jump out at me.

But I do try to send in all sorts of articles under my rearranged real name.
 
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Notepad

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>> Hey, you've also got pussy on that comic!

Orgg, thank you ever so much for catching that little sneak-in. You always find my Waldos. ;)


>> (I guess it's more "tourney oriented" which is why you sent it there?)

Not really. I just sent it there because it was a stand-alone comic which I thought would do pretty well, and a lot of the upcoming strip ideas I have are dealing with story continuity, such as Sensei Murphy and his squirrel attempting to get him out of jail.

The routine will be this: I'm going to send in five per week to CPA. Additionally, I'll submit one per week to SCG and see what they make of it...


>> In short: be my whore.

In defense of Star City, this means more along the lines of what literary publishers would write as, "Do not send simultaneous submissions" which really means do not send the same article to different places. If it is a series, there isn't a problem, such as with my comics, as they have appeared both at CPA and SCG, but not one has been duplicated at both sites. And that is what Ferrett means there, to not duplicate.

And DUke, as to your reference about geeks...I think that what may have kicked the bee hive in my case. Geeks hate being reminded they're geeks. Except for me...I recognize my geekiness and don't deny it.
 

Spiderman

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In defense of Star City, this means more along the lines of what literary publishers would write as, "Do not send simultaneous submissions" which really means do not send the same article to different places.
That makes sense - as a site, you want to have a "niche" or a reason for people to come to it instead of others rather than having the same content as another place (unless it's a mirror site) and as a reader, you don't want to see the same articles posted at different places.

Geeks hate being reminded they're geeks
I think that's usually when they're still unsure of themselves and trying to "fit in". Usually when you get older and post-school, you accept it and laugh at it. :)
 
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DÛke

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SeF:

In defense of Star City, this means more along the lines of what literary publishers would write as, "Do not send simultaneous submissions" which really means do not send the same article to different places. If it is a series, there isn't a problem, such as with my comics, as they have appeared both at CPA and SCG, but not one has been duplicated at both sites. And that is what Ferrett means there, to not duplicate.
Spiderman:

That makes sense - as a site, you want to have a "niche" or a reason for people to come to it instead of others rather than having the same content as another place (unless it's a mirror site) and as a reader, you don't want to see the same articles posted at different places.
I don't disagree here. But to me, as long as there is at least one site that doesn't require and demand this exclusivity, I will always point my finger and laugh at any other that does require and demand it. Why? Because it shows that there are people out there taking it way too seriously for what it is, treating it way more importantly than it needs to be, demanding waaaaay more attention than the card game itself can emit. I have nothing against exclusivity...but the exclusivity of what subject? World news? Philosophy? Politics? Research? Magic? This level of profundity and seriousness concerning such a little subject is what I believe I can call "geeky," and hopefully with every right too. I'm simply pointing this out because I've always heard geeks discussing how others are geeky.

Thinks about it: it's a card game. I don't want to hear about Magic "legends," or "winners," or "respected names," or "accomplishment," or anything like that. I often laughed when someone recalls a “famous” Magic name and laments about the “good ol’days.” Everyone has their geeky tendencies...some way more than others.

At the end of the day, casual players (casual as in: "I play the game when I can, because it's fun.") are the only people. Everyone else is something else - something "special." ;)
 

Spiderman

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Everyone values something differently. You don't value Magic as much but highly value your identity. Someone else might not value their identity but values playing sports. And so on...

It depends how good the non-exclusive site is. If they are respected also, that's one thing, but if they're pretty low on the totem pole, then their policy doesn't really mean much...
 
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Notepad

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>> but if they're pretty low on the totem pole, then their policy doesn't really mean much

Sort of like that reprint article of mine that first appeared here, then got copied on MTGNews, meaning both CPA and MTGNews sorta had lowered standards at the time?
 

Spiderman

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I don't remember which "reprint" article, but unless Chaos Turtle was doing it, we don't actively search out articles to link to. So someone (you?) had to send us the article and if it was a reprint, again, since I don't check other places, I wouldn't know.

I don't think we have a standing policy about printing reprints, although if they're known, we'd probably just rather link to them and posting them in their entirety.
 
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Notepad

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I thought it was you I asked, Spidey. Was a year ago, though.

What happened was a Rant Arena about the reprint policy appeared here on CPA. Then, a week later, I asked both sites and they gave permission to send it to be reprinted at MTGNews. Of course, the readers of MTGNews got ticked off, and rules were implemented there about their own reprinting policy (all over an article about WotC's Reprint Policy--how sweetly ironic).

Funny thing is, their editors liked it so much they asked me to do a followup to the article. I think that followup was the only original article I did for them.
 

Spiderman

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Well, like I said, we don't really have a reprint policy; what is printed here can usually be printed somewhere else and vice versa. Again, personally, if we were the ones getting the reprint, I would rather just link to it, but like I said, I don't really check other sites so I wouldn't know whether a submission is a reprint or not. Since we don't really have regular writers (aside from your comic now and train's stuff), we usually take any submission with no questions asked :)
 
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Notepad

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>> if we were the ones getting the reprint, I would rather just link to it,

Well, there won't be any reprints sent here from me. The only one reprint I ever did was that MTGNews thing, and that sucked. Anything else that can be remotely considered a reprint would be stuff appearing on my site, then being sent here, in which case I get rid of the original on my site and thus turn into an original here (My Axe story, anybody?).


>> Since we don't really have regular writers (aside from your comic now and train's stuff),

Hard to believe with such an active forum. Doesn't anybody feel like writing at least a little something sometimes? :confused:


>> we usually take any submission with no questions asked

You know, I'd love to be an editor here and clean up stuff when it comes in.

I don't think I responded when ya asked what I meant by wanting to be an editor/spokeperson -- I guess sorta like a more active Spidey, or a CPA version of Ferrett, a person who is more In Your Face (TM) about running the site, and introducing forum threads on the main site and such...ya know.
 

Spiderman

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Hard to believe with such an active forum. Doesn't anybody feel like writing at least a little something sometimes?
Weeelll, it's not that active. I'd say maybe 10-15 people are actively posting, right now.

I don't think I responded when ya asked what I meant by wanting to be an editor/spokeperson -- I guess sorta like a more active Spidey, or a CPA version of Ferrett, a person who is more In Your Face (TM) about running the site, and introducing forum threads on the main site and such...ya know.
I could raise it up with the other mods... but like I said (and if you notice from the updates), not much stuff comes in to edit. And I haven't really thought any threads lately have deserved attention on the main page... but maybe that's just a matter of perception.
 
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Notepad

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>> I could raise it up with the other mods... but like I said (and if you notice from the updates), not much stuff comes in to edit. And I haven't really thought any threads lately have deserved attention on the main page... but maybe that's just a matter of perception.

Cool. I think there is a lot going on that could be front page, it just needs to have a seller jump line on the front page. Sorta like how Ferrett does it at Star City -- He's posting links to the article feedback threads, but he snazzes them up with a nice jump line. :D ;)

Plus, if there's a litte more SeFRo involved, the whole brew sort of goes silly...so maybe that will help out. :D
 

Spiderman

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Well, I thought that was the point of replying to the article, so you don't have to jump to the forums to discuss them.

But I'll ask...
 
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