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FmK-AnC
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why may i ask are all the threads being closed for no reason? its as if there is a plot against me... its a conspiricy i tell you AHHHHHHHHHH
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Nightstalkers
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Spidey, make us a mod so that we can save you guys the trouble of closing these threads 
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Aku Necromancer
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I would like to know why too…considering there was absolutely nothing wrong with the threads…and was 50 times more interesting than,…ummm…for example a happy birthday so and so thread…
Hmmm maybe even 60 times more interesting…
Hmmm maybe even 60 times more interesting…
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Reverend Love
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Due to the nature of the question it's only a matter of time before someone voice’s their disfavor-able opinion of a fellow member. Then it's off to the flamewars.
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Nightstalkers
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CLOSED!!!!
This thread is closed!!!!
This thread is closed!!!!
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FmK-AnC
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haha... yeah it is kinda like that
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DÛke
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Let me object, and point out at how we have had members directly insult and offend each other in the past. We have people going as far as saying "I hate you" and meaning it to the extremist extent - yet what has been done to those? Nothing.
Let us talk about this "unfavorable" opinion. What could be so unvoiced as of now? Who of the members is still ignorant to how he or she is being viewed by other members? Perhaps most if not all members by now realize exactly how they will be treated by other members.
Yet we have threads closed for what reason? For the "haunch" that it might bestow the unfavorable amongst some "innocent" soul.
We have threads closed, why? Because some people around here don't like to hear the truth about them - they like to hear about the truth about you, about me, about everyone else if needed to be, and they like to enjoy themselves while at it as well, but when it comes to them - god forbid! Don't even look at them! Don't even mention them in any negative manner! Because they are gods, ya know?
We have threads closed...why? Because some members around here have not yet heard what you think about them - like typical Americans, I should say, they also don't want to hear a single thing about them. Let it be anything, but as long as it does not involve them...otherwise, they will let the thread slide, they will let members be offensive...
We have had the worst happen. We have had boring threads and boring people amongst whom these very thread-killers stand, yet of all threads, the good ones they close, or at least the ones that are in no way a "danger." And so what if it is dangerous? No one seems to mind when it gets all personal - very personal - in the political forum. Where are these divine moderators then? Where are they? I tell you where: they don't give a damn that someone is being offended or harassed, but when there is even the slightest chance that they might become the subject matter, that they shrink from.
Please, people (and you know who you are), get your act together...
You really are new to these boards, huh?
Let me object, and point out at how we have had members directly insult and offend each other in the past. We have people going as far as saying "I hate you" and meaning it to the extremist extent - yet what has been done to those? Nothing.
Let us talk about this "unfavorable" opinion. What could be so unvoiced as of now? Who of the members is still ignorant to how he or she is being viewed by other members? Perhaps most if not all members by now realize exactly how they will be treated by other members.
Yet we have threads closed for what reason? For the "haunch" that it might bestow the unfavorable amongst some "innocent" soul.
We have threads closed, why? Because some people around here don't like to hear the truth about them - they like to hear about the truth about you, about me, about everyone else if needed to be, and they like to enjoy themselves while at it as well, but when it comes to them - god forbid! Don't even look at them! Don't even mention them in any negative manner! Because they are gods, ya know?
We have threads closed...why? Because some members around here have not yet heard what you think about them - like typical Americans, I should say, they also don't want to hear a single thing about them. Let it be anything, but as long as it does not involve them...otherwise, they will let the thread slide, they will let members be offensive...
We have had the worst happen. We have had boring threads and boring people amongst whom these very thread-killers stand, yet of all threads, the good ones they close, or at least the ones that are in no way a "danger." And so what if it is dangerous? No one seems to mind when it gets all personal - very personal - in the political forum. Where are these divine moderators then? Where are they? I tell you where: they don't give a damn that someone is being offended or harassed, but when there is even the slightest chance that they might become the subject matter, that they shrink from.
Please, people (and you know who you are), get your act together...
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Reverend Love
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Duke I can understand why your opinion is that the moderation of these boards is completely unfair and biased. How people can completely harp on you on end in political discussion when that's not the topic. But when the topic IS people it gets hammered. Here's the reason.
1. Your comments are purposely inflammatory. You troll the living hell out of people and in turn when they attack; you fire off another volley ..it's obviously what you enjoy. Political discussions are just the catalyst to don the flamethrower. So why should they stop you from enjoying yourself? You post flames in the appropriate places and more or less carry yourself as should.
However..
2. The subject of whom do you hate (which is basically the subject) cuts right to the chase..which is ok for people who like to wade in insults flying. However what if your joe-cpa and all you want is to occasionally post/critic a few decks. Some guy decides he hates your living guts because you knocked his Goblin Artisan deck. So he comes here, posts appropriate of the subject stating your completely unworthiness of the glory which is CPA message boards. You read this, get mad and retaliate.
As a moderator you've got a dilema on your hands. You've got poster's which are normally docile dudes chatting away about magic, now critiquing the hell out of one another on a bs subject which only causes strife.... Lock the post..if they want to rip on one another let'm go to FLAMEWARS or some other post appropriate area.
Duke, all I'm trying to say is no one posts in Political Discussions expecting sunshine and candy canes...it's a flamewar plain and simple. Everyone either knows this or quickly learns. However the subject of who do you think should be banned in Off Topic isn't. People going to Off Topic aren’t necessarily craving an argument...maybe there looking for what Train opinion is of lawn mowers are or whatever.
Not a pretty definition I know but it gets to the point and I'm short on time.
1. Your comments are purposely inflammatory. You troll the living hell out of people and in turn when they attack; you fire off another volley ..it's obviously what you enjoy. Political discussions are just the catalyst to don the flamethrower. So why should they stop you from enjoying yourself? You post flames in the appropriate places and more or less carry yourself as should.
However..
2. The subject of whom do you hate (which is basically the subject) cuts right to the chase..which is ok for people who like to wade in insults flying. However what if your joe-cpa and all you want is to occasionally post/critic a few decks. Some guy decides he hates your living guts because you knocked his Goblin Artisan deck. So he comes here, posts appropriate of the subject stating your completely unworthiness of the glory which is CPA message boards. You read this, get mad and retaliate.
As a moderator you've got a dilema on your hands. You've got poster's which are normally docile dudes chatting away about magic, now critiquing the hell out of one another on a bs subject which only causes strife.... Lock the post..if they want to rip on one another let'm go to FLAMEWARS or some other post appropriate area.
Duke, all I'm trying to say is no one posts in Political Discussions expecting sunshine and candy canes...it's a flamewar plain and simple. Everyone either knows this or quickly learns. However the subject of who do you think should be banned in Off Topic isn't. People going to Off Topic aren’t necessarily craving an argument...maybe there looking for what Train opinion is of lawn mowers are or whatever.
Not a pretty definition I know but it gets to the point and I'm short on time.
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DÛke
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No.
No.
And...no.
Political discussions are not meant to be inflammatory on personal level. We have had the discussion concerning September 11 here, and as long and tedious most threads got, none turned to inflammatory ad hominem. All remained heated, to be assured, but not towards people. Those who understand otherwise need to clean up their misconceptions.
Yet. Lately, when some people choose to rip on others directly - like I have done, like few others have done as well - it all seems to be allowed. One active moderator is honest, and only one - and that's Spiderman. For example, take the last big thread (entitled "Daddy...") in the political forum, where Apollo chose to voice his displeasure towards me on a personal level - Ferret didn't stop him, yet he was there and quite active. Now, I don't want to come off to sound like I care whether anything was done back there - nothing whatsoever was done. But I still should ask why someone like Ferret here decides to close a thread that is not close to becoming a random act of attacking innocent civilians. In fact, no one was attacked, and the thread had gone off-topic already after it had been closed. Ferret's closing message even is sarcastically but aptly put: that the thread is such a cheerful, good atmosphere, contrary to what he had expected.
...so why was it closed? Read my above post here, you'll read why he closed it.
As for this:
My point is, threads are closed here most of the time for the wrong reasons; threads are closed because a moderator feels restless and displeasure towards certain members, and not because other members themselves are doing anything out of the ordinary.
No.
No.
And...no.
Political discussions are not meant to be inflammatory on personal level. We have had the discussion concerning September 11 here, and as long and tedious most threads got, none turned to inflammatory ad hominem. All remained heated, to be assured, but not towards people. Those who understand otherwise need to clean up their misconceptions.
Yet. Lately, when some people choose to rip on others directly - like I have done, like few others have done as well - it all seems to be allowed. One active moderator is honest, and only one - and that's Spiderman. For example, take the last big thread (entitled "Daddy...") in the political forum, where Apollo chose to voice his displeasure towards me on a personal level - Ferret didn't stop him, yet he was there and quite active. Now, I don't want to come off to sound like I care whether anything was done back there - nothing whatsoever was done. But I still should ask why someone like Ferret here decides to close a thread that is not close to becoming a random act of attacking innocent civilians. In fact, no one was attacked, and the thread had gone off-topic already after it had been closed. Ferret's closing message even is sarcastically but aptly put: that the thread is such a cheerful, good atmosphere, contrary to what he had expected.
...so why was it closed? Read my above post here, you'll read why he closed it.
As for this:
I've been in the CPA for a good enough of a time to know that such a thing has, to my knowledge, never happened. This is not MTGnews or some other down-the-garbage forum where lifeless little kids have nothing better to do than post 20 decks a day and expect 500 replies to each, much less, get pissed off when they don't hear what they wanted to hear. No. Scroll up a little and you'll see that it says "Casual Player's Alliance" - as in, we do accept everyone, but not everyone can thrive here. If you're one of them hell-with-life and welcome-Magic-my-love type of kid, then you'll not find much here to satisfy that freakish nature of yours.
My point is, threads are closed here most of the time for the wrong reasons; threads are closed because a moderator feels restless and displeasure towards certain members, and not because other members themselves are doing anything out of the ordinary.
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FmK-AnC
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DUke you have become my "god"... i tottaly worship you now... no matter what i have said about you before... i was wrong... you are tottaly with things... you say what must be said... its just the person on the other side is so scared they think your mean...(i was at least)
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Reverend Love
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okey-dokey Duke.
There's an old saying that goes:
As for #2..
Your well aware I'm quite new here. So I'll take your word that the aforementioned has never occurred here...however the only thing a subject as;
Another of my main points was the subject was in the wrong area. Again had it been in Flamewars or whatever I doubt the lock would been so swift.
There's an old saying that goes:
There's a reason..because both are touchy subjects near and dear to their proponents. No matter how elegantly the point is stated and how much care is taken to gently shed light on faults, it's almost always interpreted in a negative context...even worse on message boards. A faith or political view is often a part of the individual. So by cutting down either, in retrospect your cutting down that person....if you don't believe me watch BBC when they're airing British parliament. Good for both laughs and an introspective view on human personas.
As for #2..
Your well aware I'm quite new here. So I'll take your word that the aforementioned has never occurred here...however the only thing a subject as;
does is encourage such destructive conversations. It's like mixing children, chocolate and sub machineguns...only bad things can happen.
Another of my main points was the subject was in the wrong area. Again had it been in Flamewars or whatever I doubt the lock would been so swift.
I haven't been on over the weekend so I'm not the one doing the closings. Regardless though, I agree with whoever is doing it; Starting a thread about who should get banned serves absolutely no purpose on a public forum here. You guys want to discuss it, take it to a chat room.
I agree with DUke that I'm slightly disappointed in the moderation of the Political forum there and the uneveness which I tried to curb, but truthfully, only Ferret and TomB are on here semi-regularly out of all the mods and I'm not sure if they read every thread like I do. Ferret obviously read that one since he replied in it so I'm not sure what his reasoning is.
Regardless, there are "discussion" topics like politics and "negative" topics like who should get banned, and the latter is just not appropriate.
I agree with DUke that I'm slightly disappointed in the moderation of the Political forum there and the uneveness which I tried to curb, but truthfully, only Ferret and TomB are on here semi-regularly out of all the mods and I'm not sure if they read every thread like I do. Ferret obviously read that one since he replied in it so I'm not sure what his reasoning is.
Regardless, there are "discussion" topics like politics and "negative" topics like who should get banned, and the latter is just not appropriate.
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Nightstalkers
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when I read that... I almost spit out me coffee! but I can see how you can become infatuated with Duke, its happened to the rest of us at one time or another, the aura of majesty wears thin to the point that it is replaced with a settling of dust. Why should we abhor him? I don't have the slightest idea, he's just a man, one man in the great sea of humanity taking up sides, and overindulging themselves in this defenseless planet.
just kidding
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DÛke
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Spiderman, I agree that the thread's title was overly provocative if not offending right away to some, somehow. However, and there is much that depends on this however, the thread played out fine - too fine perhaps even for my taste!
Who do members like to see banned?
No one.
And who would they choose to become banned? Most would either choose to point the finger at me, maybe train, maybe Nightstalkers. That's it. Yes - that's all it is. But I already know who wants me banned around here! train is a light-feeted fellow who does not give much damn to what anyone says, and smiles instead! As for Nightstalkers...really...he takes himself as a joke most of the time, and whoever wants him banned is probably joking right there with him.
Yes - the thread's title is disturbing, I guess, but the thread itself? Not at all. Never. You need more proof than that? Ferret did not close it right away, as he said right there in his closing comment, instead, he watched, and probably wanted to see someone getting ripped on, hence he didn't close it right away. He wanted to be "entertained," much like he says he finds war entertaining - it lifts his boredom a little, maybe suppress it in a way, in any case, it helps him deal with himself.
Now listen, am I not being more critical here? This thread is serving what the other thread didn't...and why? Because someone out there has a big problem...
Sorry for going over the top - I was puzzled at how such a thing can take place. But you know? I already knew. People with problems. A lot of problems...
Spiderman, I agree that the thread's title was overly provocative if not offending right away to some, somehow. However, and there is much that depends on this however, the thread played out fine - too fine perhaps even for my taste!
Who do members like to see banned?
No one.
And who would they choose to become banned? Most would either choose to point the finger at me, maybe train, maybe Nightstalkers. That's it. Yes - that's all it is. But I already know who wants me banned around here! train is a light-feeted fellow who does not give much damn to what anyone says, and smiles instead! As for Nightstalkers...really...he takes himself as a joke most of the time, and whoever wants him banned is probably joking right there with him.
Yes - the thread's title is disturbing, I guess, but the thread itself? Not at all. Never. You need more proof than that? Ferret did not close it right away, as he said right there in his closing comment, instead, he watched, and probably wanted to see someone getting ripped on, hence he didn't close it right away. He wanted to be "entertained," much like he says he finds war entertaining - it lifts his boredom a little, maybe suppress it in a way, in any case, it helps him deal with himself.
Now listen, am I not being more critical here? This thread is serving what the other thread didn't...and why? Because someone out there has a big problem...
Sorry for going over the top - I was puzzled at how such a thing can take place. But you know? I already knew. People with problems. A lot of problems...
Well, then I'm puzzled why it got closed also. I read it too and it didn't turn out nearly as bad as it could have been.
This thread is more serving why threads gets closed in the first place, not the exact topic of banning people, which I guess is always informative to those "new" around here (haven't heard it before).
This thread is more serving why threads gets closed in the first place, not the exact topic of banning people, which I guess is always informative to those "new" around here (haven't heard it before).
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Nightstalkers
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FmK-AnC
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.... LAUGH YOU STUPID FACE
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Nightstalkers
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that could be considered flaming...
and the other forum members detest flaming.
and the other forum members detest flaming.
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FmK-AnC
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im sorry... please dont ban me... or close my thread... i swear ill be better
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Nightstalkers
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Take it up with the almighty Spiderman.