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Ransac

CPA Trash Man
Before I take my turn:

I'm assuming that I draw two cards from the spells Rakarth played and one card from the Faith's Fetters (there was no indication of paying the extra 1 any of these times).

I've always played that if a player leaves, every card they had leaves.


Ransac, cpa trash man
 

Mooseman

Isengar Tussle
Ransac said:
Before I take my turn:

I'm assuming that I draw two cards from the spells Rakarth played and one card from the Faith's Fetters (there was no indication of paying the extra 1 any of these times).

I've always played that if a player leaves, every card they had leaves.


Ransac, cpa trash man
As far as I can see you get to draw 2 cards...... and all a players cards go with them..... fetters is gone.......
 

Ransac

CPA Trash Man
It should be three. I also stated the situations wrong. It was Rakarth and rokapoke.

Rakarth: 1 for Faith's Fetters
rokapoke: 1 for Dragon Scales and 1 for Suntail Hawk.

Is this correct?


Ransac, cpa trash man
 
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BigBlue

Guest
As an outsider looking in...

I don't see any way the fetters stays...

We played a bizarre method where all permanents both owned and controlled by the dead player left... so, if they had control magic on your creature, you got the creature back when they died...

I think I saw somewhere on WotC that it's all cards they own or are under their control that leave, so in their scenario if they'd controlled something it dies with them, rather than reverting back to it's owner... Also, any creatures of theirs which were in someone elses control would also be rfg.

Their rule in essence makes sure no cards are lost... I don't know how many times I'd find someone else's creature shuffled in my control deck... usually I remembered whose they were... course, I also know some of my got lost in theirs too...

Under either ruling, the Fetters is dead when Rakarth is...
 
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rokapoke

Guest
Ransac said:
Rakarth: 1 for Faith's Fetters
rokapoke: 1 for Dragon Scales and 1 for Suntail Hawk.
On my end, you may certainly draw the cards. I, unfortunately, forgot about the Rhystic Study in the untold eons between my turns. Perhaps I'll remember next time around...
 

Ransac

CPA Trash Man
Okay, 3 cards being drawn. Untap, Upkeep, Draw, Savannah, Attack MP with everything for 14. Done.

Rokapoke: 27
Hand: 5
Library: 45
In play:

(TTTU) Plains x4
(UUUU) Plains x4

Soulcatcher's Aerie (Whenever a Bird is put into your graveyard from play, put a feather counter on ~. All birds get +1/+1 for each feather counter on ~.) Two feather counters
Dragon Scales (Enchanted creature gets +1/+2 and attacking doesn't cause it to tap. When a creature with converted mana cost 6 or more comes into play, you may return ~ from your graveyard to play enchanting that creature.)

(U) Bird token (4/5) * Scaly *
(T) Bird token (3/3)
(S) Suntail Hawk (3/3; Bird; Flying)

Graveyard: Battle Screech
RFG:
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Spiderman: 25
Hand: 6
Library: 43
In play:

(U,U) Scrubland (B/W dual) x2
(U) Bayou (B/G dual)
(T) Savannah (G/W dual)
(T,U) Swamp x2
(U) Nantucko Monastery (T: Add 1 to my mana pool. Threshold - GW: ~ becomes a 4/4 green and white creature with first strike ueot. It's still a land)
(T) Treetop Village (T: Add G to my mana pool. 1G: ~ becomes a 3/3 green Ape creature with trample ueot. It's still a land)
(U) Volrath's Stronghold (T: Add 1 to my mana pool. 1B, T: Put target creature from my graveyard on top of my library)

Pernicious Deed (X, Sac ~: Destroy each artifact, creature, and enchantment with converted mana cost X or less)

Graveyard: Vindicate
RFG:
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Ransac: 27
Hand: 7
Library: 35
In play:

(U) Faerie Conclave (Faerie Conclave comes into play tapped. T: Add Blue Mana to your mana pool. 1U: Faerie Conclave becomes a 2/1 blue Faerie creature with flying until end of turn. It's still a land.)
(UUU) Savannah (G/W)
(UUU) Tundra (U/W)
(UUU) Tropical Island (G/U)
(U) Island
(U) Mishra's Factory (T: Add 1 to your mana pool. 1: Mishra's Factory becomes a 2/2 Assembly-Worker artifact creature until end of turn. It's still a land. T: Target Assembly-Worker creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.)

Rhystic Study (Whenever an opponent plays a spell, you may draw a card unless that player pays 1)

(T) Winged Sliver (3/3, All slivers have flying.)
(T) Gemhide Sliver (3/3, All slivers have "T: add one mana of any color to your mana pool.")
(T) Crystalline Sliver (4/4, All slivers have shroud)
(T) Might Sliver (4/4, all slivers gain +2/+2)

Graveyard: Remand
RFG: Time Spiral
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Modus Pwnens: 47/34?
Hand: 6
Library: 45
In play:

(U, U, U) Forest
(U, U, U) Mountain

Graveyard: Forgotten Ancient
RFG: Seize the Day, Kavu Predator
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Mooseman: 19
Hand: 7
Library: 44
In play:

(UUUUUUUU) Island x8

(U) Willbender (1/2,Morph 1U When Willbender is turned face up, change the target of target spell or ability with a single target.)


Graveyard:
RFG:
 
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Modus Pwnens

Guest
No surprise there then ;)

Fetters should indeed leave the game with Rakarth
 
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Modus Pwnens

Guest
Already eh?

Untap, upkeep.

Grove of the Burnwillows.
Reverent Silence, paying one extra (destroy all enchantments)

I reckon there will be some responses to this :)
 
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rokapoke

Guest
I'll lose more than just my Birds, unfortunately... in fact, everything on my board has a mana cost of less than 3... So be it.

Right, just noticed that enchantments are already going. My board is flat-out clear, and I can't stop it.
 
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Modus Pwnens

Guest
Updated the board to the best of my ability, let me know if I missed anything.

Done.

Rokapoke: 27
Hand: 5
Library: 45
In play:

(TTTU) Plains x4
(UUUU) Plains x4


Graveyard: Battle Screech, Soulcatcher's Aerie, Suntail Hawk, Dragon Scales
RFG:
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Spiderman: 25
Hand: 6
Library: 43
In play:

(U,U) Scrubland (B/W dual) x2
(U) Bayou (B/G dual)
(T) Savannah (G/W dual)
(T,U) Swamp x2
(U) Nantucko Monastery (T: Add 1 to my mana pool. Threshold - GW: ~ becomes a 4/4 green and white creature with first strike ueot. It's still a land)
(T) Treetop Village (T: Add G to my mana pool. 1G: ~ becomes a 3/3 green Ape creature with trample ueot. It's still a land)
(U) Volrath's Stronghold (T: Add 1 to my mana pool. 1B, T: Put target creature from my graveyard on top of my library)

Graveyard: Vindicate, Pernicious Deed
RFG:
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Ransac: 27
Hand: 7
Library: 35
In play:

(U) Faerie Conclave (Faerie Conclave comes into play tapped. T: Add Blue Mana to your mana pool. 1U: Faerie Conclave becomes a 2/1 blue Faerie creature with flying until end of turn. It's still a land.)
(UUU) Savannah (G/W)
(UUU) Tundra (U/W)
(UUU) Tropical Island (G/U)
(U) Island
(U) Mishra's Factory (T: Add 1 to your mana pool. 1: Mishra's Factory becomes a 2/2 Assembly-Worker artifact creature until end of turn. It's still a land. T: Target Assembly-Worker creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.)

(T) Might Sliver (4/4, all slivers gain +2/+2)

Graveyard: Remand, Crystalline Sliver, Gemhide Sliver, Winged Sliver, Rhystic Study
RFG: Time Spiral
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Modus Pwnens: 34
Hand: 5
Library: 45
In play:

(T, T, U) Forest
(T, T, U) Mountain
(T) Grove of the Burnwillows (T: 1, T: G/R, you all gain 1 life)

Graveyard: Forgotten Ancient, Reverent Silence
RFG: Seize the Day, Kavu Predator
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Mooseman: 19
Hand: 7
Library: 44
In play:

(UUUUUUUU) Island x8


Graveyard: Willbender
RFG:
 

Mooseman

Isengar Tussle
Untap, upkeep, draw
Spire Golem
Done

Rokapoke: 27
Hand: 5
Library: 45
In play:

(TTTU) Plains x4
(UUUU) Plains x4


Graveyard: Battle Screech, Soulcatcher's Aerie, Suntail Hawk, Dragon Scales
RFG:
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Spiderman: 25
Hand: 6
Library: 43
In play:

(U,U) Scrubland (B/W dual) x2
(U) Bayou (B/G dual)
(T) Savannah (G/W dual)
(T,U) Swamp x2
(U) Nantucko Monastery (T: Add 1 to my mana pool. Threshold - GW: ~ becomes a 4/4 green and white creature with first strike ueot. It's still a land)
(T) Treetop Village (T: Add G to my mana pool. 1G: ~ becomes a 3/3 green Ape creature with trample ueot. It's still a land)
(U) Volrath's Stronghold (T: Add 1 to my mana pool. 1B, T: Put target creature from my graveyard on top of my library)

Graveyard: Vindicate, Pernicious Deed
RFG:
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Ransac: 27
Hand: 7
Library: 35
In play:

(U) Faerie Conclave (Faerie Conclave comes into play tapped. T: Add Blue Mana to your mana pool. 1U: Faerie Conclave becomes a 2/1 blue Faerie creature with flying until end of turn. It's still a land.)
(UUU) Savannah (G/W)
(UUU) Tundra (U/W)
(UUU) Tropical Island (G/U)
(U) Island
(U) Mishra's Factory (T: Add 1 to your mana pool. 1: Mishra's Factory becomes a 2/2 Assembly-Worker artifact creature until end of turn. It's still a land. T: Target Assembly-Worker creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.)

(T) Might Sliver (4/4, all slivers gain +2/+2)

Graveyard: Remand, Crystalline Sliver, Gemhide Sliver, Winged Sliver, Rhystic Study
RFG: Time Spiral
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Modus Pwnens: 34
Hand: 5
Library: 45
In play:

(T, T, U) Forest
(T, T, U) Mountain
(T) Grove of the Burnwillows (T: 1, T: G/R, you all gain 1 life)

Graveyard: Forgotten Ancient, Reverent Silence
RFG: Seize the Day, Kavu Predator
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Mooseman: 19
Hand: 7
Library: 43
In play:

(UUUUUUUU) Island x8

(S) Spire Golem (2/4,Affinity for Islands. Flying.)

Graveyard: Willbender
RFG:
 
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rokapoke

Guest
Totally missed the whole "it's my turn" thing. Thanks for the heads-up, Mooseman.

Untap, upkeep, draw.
Soulcatcher.
Battle Screech from my hand.
Done.



Rokapoke: 27
Hand: 4
Library: 44
In play:

(TTTT) Plains x4
(TTUU) Plains x4

(S) Soulcatcher (1/1; BIRD SOLDIER; Flying. Whenever a creature with flying is put into a graveyard from play, put a +1/+1 counter on ~.)
(S) Bird Token (1/1; Flying)
(S) Bird Token (1/1; Flying)

Graveyard: Battle Screech, Soulcatcher's Aerie, Suntail Hawk, Dragon Scales, Battle Screech
RFG:
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Spiderman: 25
Hand: 6
Library: 43
In play:

(U,U) Scrubland (B/W dual) x2
(U) Bayou (B/G dual)
(T) Savannah (G/W dual)
(T,U) Swamp x2
(U) Nantucko Monastery (T: Add 1 to my mana pool. Threshold - GW: ~ becomes a 4/4 green and white creature with first strike ueot. It's still a land)
(T) Treetop Village (T: Add G to my mana pool. 1G: ~ becomes a 3/3 green Ape creature with trample ueot. It's still a land)
(U) Volrath's Stronghold (T: Add 1 to my mana pool. 1B, T: Put target creature from my graveyard on top of my library)

Graveyard: Vindicate, Pernicious Deed
RFG:
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Ransac: 27
Hand: 7
Library: 35
In play:

(U) Faerie Conclave (Faerie Conclave comes into play tapped. T: Add Blue Mana to your mana pool. 1U: Faerie Conclave becomes a 2/1 blue Faerie creature with flying until end of turn. It's still a land.)
(UUU) Savannah (G/W)
(UUU) Tundra (U/W)
(UUU) Tropical Island (G/U)
(U) Island
(U) Mishra's Factory (T: Add 1 to your mana pool. 1: Mishra's Factory becomes a 2/2 Assembly-Worker artifact creature until end of turn. It's still a land. T: Target Assembly-Worker creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.)

(T) Might Sliver (4/4, all slivers gain +2/+2)

Graveyard: Remand, Crystalline Sliver, Gemhide Sliver, Winged Sliver, Rhystic Study
RFG: Time Spiral
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Modus Pwnens: 34
Hand: 5
Library: 45
In play:

(T, T, U) Forest
(T, T, U) Mountain
(T) Grove of the Burnwillows (T: 1, T: G/R, you all gain 1 life)

Graveyard: Forgotten Ancient, Reverent Silence
RFG: Seize the Day, Kavu Predator
-------------------------------------------------
Mooseman: 19
Hand: 7
Library: 43
In play:

(UUUUUUUU) Island x8

(S) Spire Golem (2/4,Affinity for Islands. Flying.)

Graveyard: Willbender
RFG:
 
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