Casual Showdown - Istanbul vs. Oversoul vs. Spiderman

Oversoul

Oversoul

The Tentacled One
Oversoul said:
I'm done. Your turn, Spiderman.
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Yeah.

Edit...

And for convenience, here's the game state (I think):

Istanbul: 20
In Hand: 7
In Play:
Plains x2 (T, T)
Forest x2 (T, T)
Graveyard: Krosan Verge
RFG:

Oversoul: 20
In Hand: 5
In Play:
Swamp (T)
Underground Sea (U)
Scrubland (U)
Graveyard: Cabal Therapy, Bad River, Duress, Bad River
RFG:

Spiderman: 20
In Hand: 5
In Play:
(U) Library of Alexandria
Graveyard: Mirari's Wake, Hunting Grounds
RFG:
 
I

Istanbul

Guest
Actually, all of my lands are tapped. But aside from that, yeah.
 
S

Spiderman

Administrator
Staff member
Yeah, this really might be a game between you two. That mulligan hurt slightly but then with two discards... :(

Draw, done.

Istanbul: 20
In Hand: 7
In Play:
Plains x2 (T, T)
Forest x2 (T, T)
Graveyard: Krosan Verge
RFG:

Oversoul: 20
In Hand: 5
In Play:
Swamp (T)
Underground Sea (U)
Scrubland (U)
Graveyard: Cabal Therapy, Bad River, Duress, Bad River
RFG:

Spiderman: 20
In Hand: 6
In Play:
(U) Library of Alexandria
Graveyard: Mirari's Wake, Hunting Grounds
RFG:
 
I

Istanbul

Guest
Untap. During my upkeep step, cycle Krosan Tusker. Fetch a Forest, draw. Draw.
Play Forest, tap out to play Wall of Mulch, done.

Istanbul: 20
In Hand: 7
In Play:
Plains x2 (T, T)
Forest x2 (T, T, T)
- Wall of Mulch (1G, Wall, 0/4. G, sac a Wall: Draw a card.)
Graveyard: Krosan Verge, Krosan Tusker
RFG:

Oversoul: 20
In Hand: 5
In Play:
Swamp (T)
Underground Sea (U)
Scrubland (U)
Graveyard: Cabal Therapy, Bad River, Duress, Bad River
RFG:

Spiderman: 20
In Hand: 6
In Play:
(U) Library of Alexandria
Graveyard: Mirari's Wake, Hunting Grounds
RFG:
 
Oversoul

Oversoul

The Tentacled One
Untap, draw, drop an Island, tap it along with the Swamp and the Scrubland to play Frantic Search, discard a Dromar's Cavern and a Polluted Delta, untap the lands, end turn.

Istanbul: 20
In Hand: 7
In Play:
Plains x2 (T, T)
Forest x3 (T, T, T)
- Wall of Mulch (1G, Wall, 0/4. G, sac a Wall: Draw a card.)
Graveyard: Krosan Verge, Krosan Tusker
RFG:

Oversoul: 20
In Hand: 4
In Play:
Island (U)
Swamp (U)
Underground Sea (U)
Scrubland (U)
Graveyard: Frantic Search, Polluted Delta, Dromar's Cavern, Cabal Therapy, Bad River, Duress, Bad River
RFG:

Spiderman: 20
In Hand: 6
In Play:
(U) Library of Alexandria
Graveyard: Mirari's Wake, Hunting Grounds
RFG:
 
S

Spiderman

Administrator
Staff member
Woohoo! No discard!

Untap, Draw, activate Library to draw again, Swamp, Done.

Istanbul: 20
In Hand: 7
In Play:
Plains x2 (T, T)
Forest x3 (T, T, T)
- Wall of Mulch (1G, Wall, 0/4. G, sac a Wall: Draw a card.)
Graveyard: Krosan Verge, Krosan Tusker
RFG:

Oversoul: 20
In Hand: 4
In Play:
Island (U)
Swamp (U)
Underground Sea (U)
Scrubland (U)
Graveyard: Frantic Search, Polluted Delta, Dromar's Cavern, Cabal Therapy, Bad River, Duress, Bad River
RFG:

Spiderman: 20
In Hand: 7
In Play:

(T) Library of Alexandria
(U) Swamp

Graveyard: Mirari's Wake, Hunting Grounds
RFG:
 
I

Istanbul

Guest
Untap, draw. Play a Plains, tap WWWG to play Wall of Swords, done.

Istanbul: 20
In Hand: 6
In Play:
Plains x2 (T, T, T)
Forest x3 (T, U, U)
- Wall of Mulch (1G, Wall, 0/4. G, sac a Wall: Draw a card.)
- Wall of Swords (3W, Wall, 3/5, flying)
Graveyard: Krosan Verge, Krosan Tusker
RFG:

Oversoul: 20
In Hand: 4
In Play:
Island (U)
Swamp (U)
Underground Sea (U)
Scrubland (U)
Graveyard: Frantic Search, Polluted Delta, Dromar's Cavern, Cabal Therapy, Bad River, Duress, Bad River
RFG:

Spiderman: 20
In Hand: 7
In Play:

(T) Library of Alexandria
(U) Swamp

Graveyard: Mirari's Wake, Hunting Grounds
RFG:
 
Oversoul

Oversoul

The Tentacled One
Untap, draw, Swamp, tap it for Dark Ritual, tap everything but the Underground Sea and play Yawgmoth's Bargain. I'm done.

Istanbul: 20
In Hand: 6
In Play:
Plains x2 (T, T, T)
Forest x3 (T, U, U)
- Wall of Mulch (1G, Wall, 0/4. G, sac a Wall: Draw a card.)
- Wall of Swords (3W, Wall, 3/5, flying)
Graveyard: Krosan Verge, Krosan Tusker
RFG:

Oversoul: 20
In Hand: 2
In Play:
Island (T)
Swamp x2 (T, T)
Underground Sea (U)
Scrubland (T)
Yawgmoth's Bargain
Graveyard: Dark Ritual, Frantic Search, Polluted Delta, Dromar's Cavern, Cabal Therapy, Bad River, Duress, Bad River
RFG:

Spiderman: 20
In Hand: 7
In Play:

(T) Library of Alexandria
(U) Swamp

Graveyard: Mirari's Wake, Hunting Grounds
RFG:
 
S

Spiderman

Administrator
Staff member
Untap, activate the Library to draw during Upkeep, Draw, Plains, Abyssal Gatekeeper, Done.

Istanbul: 20
In Hand: 6
In Play:
Plains x2 (T, T, T)
Forest x3 (T, U, U)
- Wall of Mulch (1G, Wall, 0/4. G, sac a Wall: Draw a card.)
- Wall of Swords (3W, Wall, 3/5, flying)
Graveyard: Krosan Verge, Krosan Tusker
RFG:

Oversoul: 20
In Hand: 2
In Play:
Island (T)
Swamp x2 (T, T)
Underground Sea (U)
Scrubland (T)
Yawgmoth's Bargain
Graveyard: Dark Ritual, Frantic Search, Polluted Delta, Dromar's Cavern, Cabal Therapy, Bad River, Duress, Bad River
RFG:

Spiderman: 20
In Hand: 7
In Play:

(T) Library of Alexandria
(T) Swamp
(T) Plains

(U) Abyssal Gatekeeper (1B, 1/1, When ~This~ is put in a graveyard from play, each player sacs a creature)

Graveyard: Mirari's Wake, Hunting Grounds
RFG:
 
I

Istanbul

Guest
Untap, draw. Play Forest, tap GW to play Sakura-Tribe Elder. Since my boys don't seem to be doing me much good, tapping GG and saccing both walls to draw two cards. done.

Istanbul: 20
In Hand: 7
In Play:
Plains x3 (U, U, T)
Forest x4 (U, T, T, T)
- Sakura-Tribe Elder (1G, Snake Shaman, 1/1, sac to fish a basic land from my library and put into play tapped)
Graveyard: Krosan Verge, Krosan Tusker, Wall of Swords, Wall of Mulch
RFG:

Oversoul: 20
In Hand: 2
In Play:
Island (T)
Swamp x2 (T, T)
Underground Sea (U)
Scrubland (T)
Yawgmoth's Bargain
Graveyard: Dark Ritual, Frantic Search, Polluted Delta, Dromar's Cavern, Cabal Therapy, Bad River, Duress, Bad River
RFG:

Spiderman: 20
In Hand: 7
In Play:

(T) Library of Alexandria
(T) Swamp
(T) Plains

(U) Abyssal Gatekeeper (1B, 1/1, When ~This~ is put in a graveyard from play, each player sacs a creature)

Graveyard: Mirari's Wake, Hunting Grounds
RFG:
 
Oversoul

Oversoul

The Tentacled One
Untap, skip draw phase because of Bargain. I'll pay 8 life to draw 8 cards, then drop an Island, tap out for UUUBBB, use B to play a Sol Ring and tap it for 2, then use 2UB to play Illusions of Grandeur, and the remaining UUB to Donate it to Istanbul. Any instants? If not, it's Spidey's turn.

Istanbul: 20
In Hand: 7
In Play:
Plains x3 (U, U, T)
Forest x4 (U, T, T, T)
- Sakura-Tribe Elder
- Illusions of Grandeur?
Graveyard: Krosan Verge, Krosan Tusker, Wall of Swords, Wall of Mulch
RFG:

Oversoul: 32?
In Hand: 6
In Play:
Islandx2 (T, T)
Swamp x2 (T, T)
Underground Sea (T)
Scrubland (T)
Sol Ring (T)
Yawgmoth's Bargain
Graveyard: Donate, Dark Ritual, Frantic Search, Polluted Delta, Dromar's Cavern, Cabal Therapy, Bad River, Duress, Bad River
RFG:

Spiderman: 20
In Hand: 7
In Play:

(T) Library of Alexandria
(T) Swamp
(T) Plains

(U) Abyssal Gatekeeper

Graveyard: Mirari's Wake, Hunting Grounds
RFG:
 
I

Istanbul

Guest
In response, I concede. Donate fizzles. You have fun with that.
 
Oversoul

Oversoul

The Tentacled One
The current game state (and it's Spidey's turn, by the way):

Oversoul: 32
In Hand: 6
In Play:
Islandx2 (T, T)
Swamp x2 (T, T)
Underground Sea (T)
Scrubland (T)
Sol Ring (T)
Yawgmoth's Bargain
Illusions of Grandeur (age counters: 0)
Graveyard: Donate, Dark Ritual, Frantic Search, Polluted Delta, Dromar's Cavern, Cabal Therapy, Bad River, Duress, Bad River
RFG:

Spiderman: 20
In Hand: 7
In Play:

(T) Library of Alexandria
(T) Swamp
(T) Plains

(U) Abyssal Gatekeeper

Graveyard: Mirari's Wake, Hunting Grounds
RFG:
 
I

Istanbul

Guest
(Offhand, I wonder how exactly a Trix deck qualifies as 'Casual'...what with 'casual showdown' and all...but whatever.)
 
Oversoul

Oversoul

The Tentacled One
I dunno. I wasn't able to go off until turn 6 (I threw this deck together and didn't test it, so I don't know if this is an average performance or not, but I would estimate that it's clock is between five and six turns with about the amount of disruption that I used this game). And the only things I did that affected other players until then was cast a Duress and then a Cabal Therapy. With the same starting hand and draws that I got this game, I know of multiple block constructed tournament decks that would have had a faster clock on average (not to mention Standard, Extended, Legacy, and Vintage) or been able to disrupt the crap out of me so that I wouldn't have a chance of winning. I thought my deck would be scrubby enough for a casual showdown, but I guess I might have been wrong about that.

That said, I thought the concept was slightly too cheesy myself, but went ahead and built Rector-Trix because I wanted to use my Rectors in a deck (and I don't have Pattern of Rebirth). I can't be sure whether I was able to go off because of inherent cheesiness (drawing into Bargain and Dark Ritual) or simply because of bad luck for my opponents (Spidey had to mulligan and then kept a hand that relied on Library, which was rendered inactive during the early game, and you were able to drop enough defense to ward off a creature assault, but didn't have any answers to the combo) as one could look at it either way. I won't be using this deck again in such a casual game though, as it capitalizes too much on Bargain (if I hadn't drawn into it, I would probably have drawn into a Rector and fetched it). And Bargain is one of the most ridiculously broken cards ever (if not the most ridiculously broken card ever). Plus it's totally vulnerable against attackers and disruption (if one of you had countered the Bargain, I'd have been SOL). Also, as you've pointed out, it's Trix, which is--sort of evil.

I don't know if your deck was giving its expected performance or not. My impression was that you were keeping up a good pace to potentially win a larger multiplayer game of 5+ people, but were in a danger zone against an aggro or aggro-control deck (or combo, since you didn't disrupt anything) in a three person game. Were you getting decent draws?
 
I

Istanbul

Guest
I was getting pretty good draws. In a normal casual multiplayer game, I would have been able to hold my own.

Against a tournament deck (let's face it, Trix IS a tournament deck, and you absolutely will not convince me otherwise), well...I brought my CASUAL deck to CASUAL Showdown. If I'd known we were going cutthroat, win-at-all-costs style, I would have brought my mono-blue control deck and ground this game down to a standstill.

Oh well. Lesson learned; against Oversoul, bring your A game - even in a so-called casual match - or don't bother coming.
 
S

Spiderman

Administrator
Staff member
That does kind of suck. Sorry about that Isty.

Untap, activate Library during my upkeep, Draw, Nantucko Monastery, Vindicate the Bargain, attack for 1 with the Gatekeeper, Done.

Oversoul: 31
In Hand: 6
In Play:
Islandx2 (T, T)
Swamp x2 (T, T)
Underground Sea (T)
Scrubland (T)
Sol Ring (T)
Illusions of Grandeur (age counters: 0)
Graveyard: Yawgmoth's Bargain, Donate, Dark Ritual, Frantic Search, Polluted Delta, Dromar's Cavern, Cabal Therapy, Bad River, Duress, Bad River
RFG:

Spiderman: 20
In Hand: 7
In Play:

(T) Library of Alexandria
(T) Nantucko Monastery (T: add 1, Threshold - GW: this becomes a 4/4 G/W creature with first strike until EOT. It's still a land too).

(T) Swamp
(T) Plains

(T) Abyssal Gatekeeper (1B, 1/1, When ~This~ is put in a graveyard from play, each player sacs a creature)

Graveyard: Hunting Grounds, Hunting Grounds, Vindicate
RFG:
 
B

BigBlue

Guest
Isty, I feel ya bro...

I will say though, I play mean decks in our "casual" games too... You can't even say "tribal" without someone bringing a stacked deck.... This brings to mind a good topic... What is Casual? (Geez, I haven't played magic for a long time, now that I think of it - other than with my 2 boys, and those games are definately casual!)
 
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