8th Edition Rollout

[Istanbul]

Just in case you've been living under a rock, WotC decided to do something special (?) for 8th Edition...it will include at least one card from each set printed so far that has never been in a basic set. They're going in reverse chronological order to reveal the cards. So far, they are:

Scourge:
Enrage
Rain of Blades

Legions:
Merchant of Secrets
Fugitive Wizard (somebody better get fired for this)
Enormous Baloth

Onslaught:
Demystify
Elvish Scrapper (so long, Scavenger Folk)
Gluttonous Zombie
Severed Legion (looks like Fear is black's big new thing)
Elvish Pioneer
Glory Seeker
Naturalize (I think we can safely say that, with this in the new base set, 7th Ed. will become the last set in which Disenchant was printed)

Judgment:
Chastise
Suntail Hawk

Torment
Mind Sludge

Odyssey
Aven Cloudchaser
Aven Fisher
Aven Flock
Concentrate
Demolish
Diabolic Tutor
Dusk Imp
Execute
Nantuko Disciple
Puppeteer
Zombify

Apocalypse
Brass Herald
Index
Phyrexian Arena

Planeshift
Gaea's Herald
Lord of the Undead
Maggot Carrier
Mogg Sentry
Shifting Sky
Slay
Star Compass
Warped Devotion

Invasion
Coastal Tower
Elfhame Palace
Obliterate
Planar Portal
Salt Marsh
Shivan Oasis
Urborg Volcano
Elvish Champion
Razorfoot Griffin

Prophecy
Avatar of Hope
Coastal Hornclaw
Diving Griffin
Lesser Gargadon
Living Terrain
Panic Attack
Plague Wind
Ridgeline Rager
Searing Wind
Spiketail Hatchling
Spitting Spider
Sword Dancer

Nemesis
Blinding Angel
Carrion Wall
Death Pit Offering
Mind Slash
Murderous Betrayal
Oracle's Attendants
Sneaky Homunculus
Vicious Hunger
Rhox
Spineless Thug

Mercadian Masques
Bribery
Coastal Piracy
Collective Unconscious
Cowardice
Deathgazer
Deepwood Ghoul
Dehydration
Distorting Lens
Horned Troll
Hunted Wumpus
Ivory Mask
Larceny
Natural Affinity
Noble Purpose
Primeval Shambler
Revive
Rushwood Dryad
Sever Soul
Shock Troops
Sizzle
Story Circle
Thieves' Auction
Tidal Kraken
Trade Routes
Two-Headed Dragon
Vine Trellis
Crossbow Infantry

Starter 99/Promotional
Giant Badger
Silverback Ape (S)
Sea Eagle (S)
Eager Cadet (S)
Goblin Chariot
Vizzerdrix (S)

Urza's Destiny
Emperor Crocodile
Fodder Cannon
Plow Under
Solidarity
Bloodshot Cyclops
Elvish Piper
Master Healer
Sanctimony
Soul Feast
Temporal Adept
Thieving Magpie
Thorn Elemental
Yavimaya Enchantress

Portal Three Kingdoms
Ambition's Cost
Peach Garden Oath

Urza's Legacy
Defense Grid
Phyrexian Plaguelord
Archivist
Beast of Burden
Fleeting Image
Giant Cockroach
Might of Oaks
Plague Beetle
Wing Snare

Urza's Saga
Catalog
Fecundity
Fertile Ground
Redeem
Rewind
Spreading Algae
Urza's Armor
Angelic Page
Blanchwood Armor
Confiscate
Eastern Paladin
Elite Archers
Elvish Lyrist
Glorious Anthem
Hibernation
Intrepid Hero
Looming Shade
Okk
Persecute
Phyrexian Colossus
Reflexes
Telepathy
Vernal Bloom
Western Paladin
Worship

Portal Second Age
Angel of Mercy
Norwood Ranger
Ravenous Rats
Swarm of Rats
Vampiric Spirit
Goblin Glider
Goblin Raider
Lone Wolf
Ogre Taskmaster

Exodus
Curiosity
Coat of Arms
Nausea
Seismic Assault
Spellbook
Standing Troops
Treasure Trove

Stronghold
Grave Pact
Intruder Alarm
Mana Leak
Ensnaring Bridge
Evacuation
Honor Guard
Megrim
Rolling Stones
Sacred Ground
Shock

Tempest
Canyon Wildcat
Choke
Death Pits of Rath
Elite Javelineer
Furnace of Rath
Master Decoy
Boil
Canopy Spider
Fighting Drake
Lightning Blast
Lightning Elemental
Phyrexian Hulk
Sea Monster
Staunch Defenders
Sudden Impact
Trained Armodon

Portal
Balance of Power
Coral Eel
Primeval Force
Blaze
Blessed Reversal
Giant Octopus (S)
Gravedigger
Horned Turtle
Lava Axe
Mind Rot
Monstrous Growth
Raging Goblin
Sacred Nectar
Seasoned Marshal
Serpent Warrior
Spined Wurm
Venerable Monk
Vengeance (S)
Volcanic Hammer
Wind Drake
Wood Elves

Weatherlight
Cinder Wall
Lava Hounds
Llanowar Behemoth
Ardent Militia
Call of the Wild
Phantom Warrior
Sage Owl

Visions
Nekrataal
Viashino Sandstalker
Coercion
Creeping Mold
Hulking Cyclops
Inspiration
Relentless Assault
Teferi's Puzzle Box
Tremor

Mirage
Foratog
Mind Bend
Daring Apprentice
Hammer of Bogardan
Maro
Pacifism
Patagia Golem
Rampant Growth
Sunweb

Alliances
Guerrilla Tactics
Storm Crow

Homelands
Merchant Scroll
Anaba Shaman

Ice Age
Vexing Arcanix
Wrath of Marit Lage
Abyssal Specter
Balduvian Barbarians
Dark Banishing
Deflection
Fyndhorn Elder
Lhurgoyf
Pyroclasm
Sabretooth Tiger
Zur's Weirding

Fallen Empires
Orcish Spy

The Dark
Skull of Orm
Blood Moon
Bog Imp
Inferno
Mana Clash

Legends
Flash Counter
Moss Monster
Underworld Dreams
Boomerang
Fallen Angel
Holy Day
Pyrotechnics
Remove Soul
Spirit Link
Tundra Wolves

Antiquities
Sage of Lat-Nam
Millstone
Urza's Mine
Urza's Power Plant
Urza's Tower
Wall of Spears

Arabian Nights
Rukh Egg
Aladdin's Ring
City of Brass
Flying Carpet

Alpha
Air Elemental
Birds of Paradise
Bog Wraith
Circle of Protection: Black
Circle of Protection: Blue
Circle of Protection: Green
Circle of Protection: Red
Circle of Protection: White
Craw Wurm
Crystal Rod
Dingus Egg
Disrupting Scepter
Drudge Skeletons
Dwarven Demolition Team
Fear Flashfires
Flight
Fungusaur
Giant Growth
Giant Spider
Goblin King
Grizzly Bears
Healing Salve
Hill Giant
Holy Strength
Howling Mine
Invisibility
Iron Star
Ivory Cup
Jayemdae Tome
Karma
Lure
Mahamoti Djinn
Nightmare
Orcish Artillery
Raise Dead
Regeneration
Rod of Ruin
Royal Assassin
Samite Healer
Savannah Lions
Scathe Zombies
Serra Angel
Shatter
Shivan Dragon
Steal Artifact
Stone Rain
Stream of Life
Throne of Bone
Twiddle
Unholy Strength
Unsummon
Verduran Enchantress
Wall of Air
Wall of Stone
Wall of Swords
Wooden Sphere
Wrath of God

So far, nothing that screams out 'woo-hoo!' to me. But I'm anxious for the older sets...wonder what they're gonna bring back from Arabian Nights (if it's Fishliver Oil, someone's gonna have to die) and Legends (see above, Barbary Apes).

 

[Istanbul]

Oh, and you'll probably want this:

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/8erollout/welcome

 

[EricBess]

Nobody said they are going to bring anything back. They only said they are going to include at least one card that was originally printed in each set. Wasn't Alladin's Ring first printed in Arabian Nights, for example? It was in 6th and 7th, and could very easily be the AN card in 8th.

Also, I think the inclusion of Demystify marks the end of Disenchant almost more than the inclusion of Naturalize.

 

[Spiderman]

it will include at least one card from each set printed so far that has never been in a basic set

There will have to be another AN card than the Ring since the Ring has already been in basic sets...

 

[rkoelsch]

I really hate to see merfolk go. I hope they don't replace them with cephalids. Fugitive Wizard fits in Merfolk of the Pearl Medallions slot. I actually like most of the white

Suntail Hawk way better than Eager Cadet
Glory seeker is better than Knight Errant(Soldiers matter)
I like Chastise I wonder what it replaces

 

[EricBess]

I stand corrected. I must have missed that part...

Still, based on what we have seen so far, it seems like they are making a complete overhaul of "staple" cards, so I'm sure we'll see that continue. Cards that are similar in effect to other cards that have been printed, but with minor differences. Could be interesting all the same, though.

 

[Spiderman]

I like the Merfolk too. Cephalids seem... shady

 

[Rooser]

I won't be surprised if the Arabian Nights card is Erhnam Djinn

 

[Rooser]

Oh yeah, and I can't believe they'd kill off merfolk.

At least they went out with a bang, (Laquatus).

 

[Spiderman]

It depends if they consider Chronicles part of the basic set...

 

[rkoelsch]

Originally posted by Rooser
I won't be surprised if the Arabian Nights card is Erhnam Djinn

Djinn was reprinted in Judgement

 

[Spiderman]

But the rule is a unique card not already reprinted in a basic set...

 

[BigBlue]

Hmm... going back to alpha.... There aren't many which are allowed in the Reprint policy which fit the criteria

Sinkhole? Berserk (now that it's off Restricted...)? Ice Storm? False Orders? Dwarven Demolition Team?

Perhaps it will be the Land Destruction duo of Sinkhole and Ice Storm. Oooh Foil Sinkhole.....

If only I didn't absolutely abhor the new layout...

 

[EricBess]

That's all we need, Psychatog and Berserk in the same T2 environment...

 

[train]

But Eb - a lot of inexperienced players would stack all tog abilities, and then berserk... making they're tog not big at all...

"Now... in the hands of a Pro-player..."

 

[train]

Looks decent so far...

I like the Defense Grid idea...

I do know that I don't have to buy any 8th... having all the older versions of cards and what not...

 

[Spiderman]

I'm missing some expansions but since there's only a few cards from them included in 8th, I'm probably not going to buy any either...

 

[Mikeymike]

Plow Under is in 8th? Ugh, I hated that card.

There are some interesting choices in here, I think it is a pretty good set (especially if Ruhk Egg and the Dreams are true).

Things I Like:
Lord of the Undead
Phyrexian Arena
Diabolic Tutor
Chastise
Living Terrain
Blinding Angel (very nice)
Bribery
Collective Unc
Hunted Wumpus
Revive (underrated)
Defense Grid
Phyrexian Plaguelord (Awesome!)

There are definitely some annoying cards, but I think they did a pretty damn good job.

 

[train]

I just want to verify that counterspell is gone...

 

[Rooser]

Plow Under is awesome in the right situation. Unfortunately, T2 will not be able to deliver that right situation.