7th Edition (yet again)

Discussion in 'General CPA Stuff' started by NeuroDeus, Jan 5, 2001.

  1. NeuroDeus Doctor Wundindlinyg

    IN:
    Birds of Paradise
    City of Brass
    Drudge Skeletons
    Duress
    Eastern Paladin
    Elite Archers
    Ensnaring Bridge
    Fallen Angel
    Fog
    Gerrard's Wisdom
    Giant Growth
    Glorious Anthem
    Goblin Hero
    Goblin Matron
    Goblin Raider
    IA pain lands
    Mahamoti Djinn
    Megrim
    Mind Rot
    Nightmare
    Northern Paladin
    Orcish Artillery
    Ostrasize
    Pariah
    Pygmy Pyrosaur
    Serra Angel
    Shivan Dragon
    Southern Paladin
    Western Paladin
    Worship
    Wrath of God

    OUT:
    All other non-basic lands
    Armageddon
    Cursed Scroll
    Erhnam Djinn
    Kindle
    Icy Manipulator
    Incinerate
    Man-'o-War
    Mana Flare
    Mox Diamond
    Nevinyrral's Disk
    Peace of Mind
    Powder Keg
    Royal Assassin
    Sengir Vampire
    Shard Phoenix
    Silver Wyvern
    Sorceress Queen
    Stupor

    The latest list from pwrchild's trade... And I tell you I believe her...
  2. Hetemti The Wide-Awake Nightmare

    Dear, God, no! Not a card that lets a new deck compete! Ahhh! We can't have more than four decks in the environment! Dare someone have to come up with a strategy other than "Log on, print, buy cards on printout"? Oh no! Head for the hills! Someone might try to make our combodecks not combo exactly the same way every time! Ahhh! And what if the rumors are true and they reprint Drudge Skeletons too! A 1/1 Regen. for only 2 mana! Ahhh! They're killing Magic with these insanely broken black cards! Whaaaaaaa....
  3. Duel Has Less Posts Than Spiderman

    Yeah, we don't want black to become decent, now, do we?

    Ahhh! Shivan dragon is back! How cool is that?
  4. Istanbul Sucker MCs call me sire.

    Woooooow. Sarcasm. That makes you SO COOL, lemme tellyou...

    You think black is weak? Go look at Terror and tell me that black is weak. Look at Thrashing Wumpus and Vampiric Tutor and Avatar of Woe and Addle and Urborg Skeleton (you heard me) and tell me that black is weak.

    Duress will NOT make black a viable decktype, if it's not one already. It'll just be a four-in-every-deck card. Duress is simply *too good* in a color with Dark Ritual. I say this after extensive playtesting.
  5. Cateran Emperor Passed On

    You say that after intensive playtesting with what Isty? Black badly needs some kind of good discard. Black is nearly powerless against enchantments now with only Duress as early discard (Unmask is good, but it can be harsh sometimes to remove that one card).

    But then, we want Black out of the picture for the thrashing Phyrexian Negator gave blue when Urza was around hrmm Isty? :D
  6. Chaos Turtle Demiurgic CPA Member, Admin Assistant

    Now, first off... black is not top-quality right now. Adding Duress won't make it top-quality.

    Having the Paladins, Nightmare and Fallen Angel will help though.

    See, if the environment is supposed to be about creatures (which it certainly seems to be these days) then Duress will be of limited usefulness, serving mainly to keep annoying enchantments, artifacts, sorceries and instants.

    Besides, we might very well have seen the last of Dark Ritual, once Masques block rotates out this fall. It looks like WotC is trying to beef up black's discard, search, and intelligence (seeing what the opponent has). I suspect this is to make up for the loss of the Ritual.
  7. Duel Has Less Posts Than Spiderman

    Black is not top quality right now.
    I doubt anything, until a radical storyline turn sets in, will make it top quality
    Duress, however, may give it the power to become an excellent supporting color.
    AND it serves as enchantment elimination.

    I'll look at those cards and tell you black is weak. Not because it doesn't have strong card. Because it doesn't have good supporting cards. THAT is what every color, and every deck needs.

    Why aren't fish good? They have lords and they have vodalian zombies, right? They don't have battle fish. They only have 1 1cc merfolk. They lack supporting cards.
  8. Chaos Turtle Demiurgic CPA Member, Admin Assistant

    Now, I said:
    Then, Duel said:
    Who are you, freakin' Tom Ripley? A Single White Female?

    Augh! I am getting freaked out!

    (By the way, Terror sucks.)

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