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^ = Gaseous < = Mostly liquid v = Bose-Einstein condensate

Yeah, that's what I was getting at. I think Spidey was basically pointing it out because it's another point in favor of just how resilient Progenitus is, but he wasn't positive, so he phrased it as a question. Actually, I'm not sure. Spidey?

The guy who did it was a bioweapons researcher working for the army, not some random nut working out of his garage. Yep, that's the concern. That assumes that there really even was an accident. The article said there was, but it also got its information from anonymous sources that could...

Gangrenous Goliath

I'll also block with a Symbiotic Wurm.

Spidey: Are you saying that Planar Void wouldn't remove it from the game if it would go into a graveyard? That is true. Noble Hierarch: Good manafixer, I suppose. Maelstrom Archangel: It already costs WUBRG itself. What's its ability going to do? Play Progenitus? Actually, that could work...

But it just seems so obvious. No one, at any point, claimed that cards are broken without any other cards at all to interact with. It's just common sense that this isn't the case. How is it worth noting?

Untap, upkeep, sac Defense of the Heart to grab Symbiotic Wurm and Symbiotic Wurm, draw, Penumbra Wurm, done. Oversoul: 18 Hand: 2 Library: 41 In Play: -(T, U) Overgrown Tomb x2 (swamp/forest) -(T, T, T, T) Forest x4 -(T, T) Swamp x2 -(U, S, S) Symbiotic Wurm (7/7; When ~ goes to the gy from...

Just so everyone knows, I'm aware that it's my turn now. I can't take my draw and therefore can't post my turn until later tonight (a few hours from when I made this post) when I get back home.

Denying Wind (like Jester's Cap on steroids)

^ = Vegetable < = Mineral v = Quinta Essentia

I was bored. I guess technically I would be C, although I'd like to think I'm not quite as much of a jerk as that... But every card, except Dryad Arbor, must interact with other cards in order to win. It's understood that cards don't REALLY win all by themselves. They need help.

But it's not Friday! Happy birthday.

This is true, but seems pretty unrelated to what I was saying or really more like expounding on what I was saying. I'm not talking about decks being broken, I'm talking about individual cards being broken. And in my experience, a broken card that is banned or restricted is still referred to as...

Bitter Ordeal

^ = The beginning of wisdom is the definition of terms. < = The unexamined life is not worth living. v = The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance.

If I'd ever seen Taurean Mauler before, I'd have gone with shapeshifters this game myself. :p

Yeah, I dislike the colored artifacts myself, but some of them are very powerful and I'd use one in a deck without any qualms. "Protection from everything" sounds dumb, but Progenitus itself actually looks pretty good. I can see this being used in much the same way as Darksteel Colossus, except...

But if it's banned or restricted, then it's not necessarily going to appear in a deck at all. Hence the example of Channel. Only being available as a one-of means that all the cards that would normally combo with Channel can only do so if you happen to draw into it or have some way of searching...

Untap, upkeep, draw, Forest, Defense of the Heart, done. Oversoul: 18 Hand: 2 Library: 44 In Play: -(U, U) Overgrown Tomb x2 (swamp/forest) -(T, T, T, T) Forest x4 -(U, U) Swamp x2 -(U) Symbiotic Wurm (7/7; When ~ goes to the gy from play, put 7 green 1/1 Insect tokens into play) -(S) Golgari...