Weird Deck... Could it work?

Discussion in 'Casual Decks/Variants/Etc' started by K9Archmage, Dec 28, 2000.

  1. K9Archmage He Might Be Giants

    ok... I am new to the world of magic. Is a burn-counter deck any good? I made one, and it has a record of 10 wins and 3 losses. Any ideas for cards that i should put in to make a really good burn-counter deck?

    Hoipa
  2. Duel Has Less Posts Than Spiderman

    Hammer of Bogardan. Counter-hammer is an established decktype.
  3. arhar Member

    Counter Burn was pretty big in 97-98. As Duel pointed out, Hammer is big in that kind of decks, and so was Shard Phoenix, with the rest of the deck basically being blue card advantage and counters :)
  4. Zadok001 CPA Founder, Greater Good

    Problem is Blastoderm. Solutions in U/R? Anyone?
  5. Chaos Turtle Demiurgic CPA Member, Admin Assistant

    Yes.

    Counterspell.
  6. Duel Has Less Posts Than Spiderman

    Perhaps a less direct method: Mini-burn for stall/earthquake? Maybe a tectonic break?

    All in all, though, He's right. the best response to a derm costs UU and says "Counter target...."
  7. Chaos Turtle Demiurgic CPA Member, Admin Assistant

    Or, if you're playing blue/red... you could Rupture your Skizzik...
  8. Teferi Veteran CPA Member,Capt. Nemo

    definitly try counter phoenix, it's probaly one of my favorite deck types, and it's good
  9. Thallid Ice Cream Man 21sT CeNTuRy sChIZoId MaN

    Another answer to Blastoderm that is pretty good is Wash Out (good against non-Blastoderm as well - not to say Counterspell isn't)
  10. Purple_jester New Member

    Is this a T2 thread? Ah, never mind. Type Casual then.

    There are lots of solutions to Blastoderm. Glacial Wall is the stupidest solution, but it's there. Anything that says "Counter target spell." Is an excellent solution, especially if it's Desertion. Wash Out is great.

    It is also essential to Shock, Lightning Bolt, Incinerate or Pyroclasm all creature mana producers that the green mage produces. That way, you have counter power by the time the poor fool gets up to 4 mana.

    There's also the Wand of Denial/Bazaar of Wonders approach, but that takes time.

    Cheese, counters and a liberal amount of Phoenixes are always good. f you want to go pound-for-pound, there's always Balduvian Hordes. The discard isn't much of a factor if you can draw tons more cards than your opponent. ;)
  11. Duel Has Less Posts Than Spiderman

    The problem with Wash Out is two fold

    One is the "sorcery" part, meaning it must be cast during your turn instead of after he declares his attack.

    Two is the "Replay the blastoderm with full counters" part. Wash Out is only good with backup from a counterspell.
  12. Dead CPA thread-killer

    Bribery is kinda good too, especially if they've already played a derm so you effectively kill them both, rather than just countering one.

    Other good cards for counter-burn? I'd go with Squee for multiple forbids, which is a serious advantage in multiplayer.

    If you're going for lots of recursive stuff- shard phoenix, squee, hammer, then maybe windfall would be fun as well.

    Have a poke around in the dojo archives from about 1998, there should be something there...
  13. Duel Has Less Posts Than Spiderman

    Mindripper also recently had an extended counter-phoenix deck.

    But if you want T2, then my suggestion would looks something like this:

    3 Hammer of bogardan
    4 Urza's Rage
    4 Counterspell
    4 Thwart
    3 Wash out
    4 Power sink
    3 Soothsaying
    4 Accumulated knowledge
    3 Air Elemental
    3 Earthquake

    14 islands
    12 mountains
  14. Thallid Ice Cream Man 21sT CeNTuRy sChIZoId MaN

    Trust me, he doesn't.

    I'm not very good at making non-rogue stuff though...
  15. TaLoN Fight the Power

    an interesting card for t2 counter-burn is nether spirit. my friend made a counter-burn deck featuring nether spirit as its main way to win. the spirit blocks blastoderms. its a card to think about

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