Tribe's

Discussion in 'Casual Decks/Variants/Etc' started by Captain Caveman, Nov 28, 2001.

  1. Captain Caveman New Member

    Now for the fun stuff. If anyone has an idea please post it.

    T.I.C.M,
    If you've got a Licid deck idea go ahead and post it.


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    Centaur Tribe
    4 Jolrael’s Centaur
    4 Krosan Archer
    4 Crashing Centaur
    4 Skyshooter
    4 Centaur Archer
    3 Citanul Centaurs
    2 Spellbane Centaur

    4 Still Life
    4 Centaur Garden
    .....................33 Tribe cards +
    1 Jokulhaups

    I think this might have potential. It has flyer blockers, and a few
    untouchables. Skyshooter kills flyers.



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    Snake Tribe(G/B)
    4 Coiled Tinviper
    4 Zombie Boa
    4 Crypt Cobra
    4 River Boa
    4 Marsh Viper
    4 Sabertooth Cobra
    1 Zodiac Snake(Portal 3)

    3 Snake Basket
    2 Serpent Generator
    .....................30 Tribe cards +
    x something B or G that makes the poison
    one's unblockable(?)

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    Snake Tribe(G/U)
    4 Coiled Tinviper
    4 Mystic Snake
    4 Ophidian
    4 River Boa
    4 Marsh Viper
    4 Sabertooth Cobra
    1 Sliptide Serpent

    3 Snake Basket
    2 Serpent Generator
    .....................30 Tribe cards +
    1 Hermetic Study
    x something U or G that makes the poison
    one's unblockable(?)

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    Snake Tribe(U/B)
    4 Coiled Tinviper
    4 Slinking Serpent
    4 Ophidian
    4 Zodiac Snake(Portal 3)
    4 Zombie Boa
    4 Crypt Cobra
    1 Sliptide Serpent

    3 Snake Basket
    2 Serpent Generator
    .....................30 Tribe cards +
    1 Sleepers Robe
    ???????????

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    Snake Tribe(G/R)
    4 Coiled Tinviper
    4 Voracious Cobra
    4 Fire Snake(Portal)
    4 River Boa
    4 Marsh Viper
    4 Sabertooth Cobra
    1 Serpentine Kavu

    3 Snake Basket
    2 Serpent Generator
    .....................30 Tribe cards +
    1 Kyren Negotiations
    1 Fire Whip
    ????

    Pretty weak over-all but poison counters are another way to
    win, right?


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    Ship Tribe
    4 Talas Air Ship(Portal 2)
    4 Living Airship
    4 Pirate Ship
    4 Ghost Ship
    4 Metathran Transport
    4 Reef Pirates
    1 Metathran Aerostat
    1 Steam Frigate(Portal 2)
    1 Armored Galleon(Portal 2)
    1 Hanna, Ship’s Navigator

    1 Predator, Flagship
    1 Skyship Weatherlight
    .....................30 Tribe cards +
    a few more enchants and artifacts
    along with............
    ??????????

    What a pile! But almost all of them fly. Several of them have some
    activated ability.
  2. krichaiushii New Member

    What about the Windseeker Centaur - the 2/2 non-tap to attack guy that you got by sending a coupon out of one of the early Magic books?

    Centaurs would be lots of fun.
  3. Turtlewax Joe CPA Hater of Train

    Dwarf Decks have the edge for sure I think with this little guy:

    Dwarven Recruiter

    HE IS SOOOOO BROKEN! add some green purely for mana fixers and BAM you have your shiney little butt a deck;)!

    I also like squirrels:) they're my fav!

    T.J.:p
  4. Captain Caveman New Member

    Centaurs are great. Well I terms of fun, they're great. Hopefully
    we'll get some more over the next two expansions.


    All of the"Recruiter" type guys are some good. I use them in my
    Soldier & Kavu decks. My one concern with Dwarves is there
    lack of flyer blockers. I can't remember if they have any but I
    don't think so. But I bet they would be pretty good as a fast
    beatdown Tribe deck. Thanks for the idea.

    Squirrels are allow now. Before Squirrel Mob I don't think you
    could play that type because they wasn't any "squirrel" creature
    type" There are a lot of cards that mentioned squirrel but until
    Odyssey it wasn't a legal Tribe. I've given the deck some though
    but not enough the figure out a deck.

    Got decklist?....

    Thanks,
    Caveman
  5. Sammy Dead-O wasting away again

    I wonder that, too. Or what about Savannah Lions? They aren't Cats, but they're cats...and c'mon, if all those familial cards can be part of the same tribe, then it seems like it'd have to work.

    Shouldn't Questing Phelddagrif be allowed in the Hippo tribe? Chimeric Idol with the Turtles? Ball Lightning with the Elementals?

    The gray areas can be kind of fun. Also, are the permissible sets listed anywhere? Is Portal okay? (Jungle Lion would rock with the Lion/Cat tribe...)

    Actually, there might be enough Lion cards for their own tribe, if need be. Lessee...

    4 Savannah Lions
    4 Glittering Lion
    4 Jamuraan Lion
    4 Jungle Lion
    4 Mtenda Lion
    4 Pride of Lions
    4 Mageta, the Lion
    2 Lion's Eye Diamond? Mageta's Boon? There are several cards that mention lions in the flavor text (including Kaervek's Torch)...maybe they'd be permitted.
  6. Captain Caveman New Member

    "The gray areas can be kind of fun. Also, are the permissible sets listed anywhere? Is Portal okay? (Jungle Lion would rock with the Lion/Cat tribe...) "


    I'm not sure about what sets are allowed. We play with almost
    every set except for Unglued and this week we just decieded to
    allow Portal. The cards are basically the same. Portal 1 doesn't
    provide the information about what "type" of creature
    something is but we just use you own judgement. If it sayes
    something like "Junge Lion" it must be a cat. Portal 2 & 3 have
    what type they are written on the card.


    "Shouldn't Questing Phelddagrif be allowed in the Hippo tribe? Chimeric Idol with the Turtles? Ball Lightning with the Elementals? "

    I totally agree with you. I would allow this if someone ask for
    my opinion. If someone can give the rest of us a logical reason
    why it fits into the deck, its allowed. That is my opinion.

    I gotta run, more later.

    Oh ya, post a Hippo deck if they're enough of them.
  7. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    You could define it as "Felines" (and then use Mirri, Cat Warrior :) and the regular Cat Warriors)
  8. Druidelder New Member

    I saw 4x Royal assassins and 4x Sliver Queen in the King tribe.... Does this mean gorillas are in the same tribe as apes? What about monkeys?
  9. Captain Caveman New Member

    "I saw 4x Royal assassins and 4x Sliver Queen in the King tribe.... Does this mean gorillas are in the same tribe as apes? What about monkeys?"


    That's how we would play it. Things like Simian Grunts, Kird Ape,
    Gorilla Titan, Tree Monkey(Portal 2 or 3?), Uktabi`O, Gorilla
    Shaman should all count in a "Planet of the Apes" Tribe.


    My brother even made a Elephant deck that is/was pretty good.
    Assault/Battery, Elephant Ambush, that Odyssey Elephant-Wurm,
    and such. It can apply the beats. Its pretty weak against flyers
    but pretty good none the less.
  10. Captain Caveman New Member

    Anthony did a Tribe's article over at magic-the-gathering dot com.
    If you get bored, check it out.

    He built a Squid tribe. I looks like a lot of fun.

    I was gad to see that Torment gave me enough Centaur's do
    complete that tribe. It's still pretty weak but its all about having
    fun when your playing this format.

    Now I'll have to work on Nightmare's, Minion's and Horror's.( Idea's welcome!)

    I've been thinking about a "folk" Tribe too. If I squeeze the rules
    there are several "folk"(Mer"folk", Tree"folk", Scavenger "folk",
    Towns"folk" and so on. The biggest problem is figuring out which
    "folk" are worth playing. Any thoughts?

    Thanks,
    Caveman
  11. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    Do you mean combining all of the "folk" into a deck, like a merfolk here and treefolk there?

    It's seems that what you mentioned in three colors already and I don't remember much about townsfolk except for Icatian Moneychanger :) I guess a list would have to be put together to see what's actually out there :)
  12. Captain Caveman New Member

    Here are the "folk" This might bend the rules to much, I'm not
    sure. The more I think about it the more I realize "folk" are
    not a creature type so its probably not a legal tribe.

    However, maybe Scavenger Folk make it a legal tribe?



    Argothian Treefolk 3GG Summon Treefolk 3 5 Antiquities-C
    Blanchwood Treefolk 4G Summon Treefolk 4 5 Urza’s Saga-C
    Folk of An-Havva G Summon Folk of An-Havva 1 1 Homelands-C
    Folk of the Pines 4G Summon Dryads 2 5 Ice Age-C
    Ironroot Treefolk 4G Summon Treefolk 3 5 Fifth Edition-C
    Redwood Treefolk 4G Creature — Treefolk 3 6 7th Edition-C
    Redwood Treefolk 4G Summon Treefolk 3 6 Weatherlight-C
    Redwood Treefolk 4G Summon Creature 3 6 Portal-C
    Rowan Treefolk 3G Summon Creature 3 4 Portal-C
    Scavenger Folk G Summon Scavenger Folk 1 1 Fifth Edition-C
    Scavenger Folk G Summon Scavenger Folk 1 1 Chronicles-C
    Scavenger Folk G Summon Scavenger Folk 1 1 The Dark-C
    Treefolk Mystic 3G Summon Treefolk 2 4 Urza’s Legacy-C
    Magnigoth Treefolk 4G Creature — Treefolk 2 6 Planeshift-R
    Weatherseed Treefolk 2GGG Summon Treefolk 5 3 Urza’s Legacy-R
    Wormwood Treefolk 3GG Summon Treefolk 4 4 The Dark-R
    Heartwood Treefolk 2GG Summon Treefolk 3 4 Tempest-U
    Mirrorwood Treefolk 3G Creature — Treefolk 2 4 Planeshift-U
    Scavenger Folk G Creature — Satyr 1 1 7th Edition-U
    Treefolk Healer 4G Creature — Treefolk 2 3 Invasion-U
    Treefolk Seedlings 2G Creature — Treefolk 2 * 7th Edition-U
    Treefolk Seedlings 2G Summon Treefolk 2 * Urza’s Saga-U



    Arctic Merfolk 1U Creature — Merfolk 1 1 Planeshift-C
    Coral Merfolk 1U Creature — Merfolk 2 1 7th Edition-C
    Coral Merfolk 1U Summon Merfolk 2 1 Urza’s Saga-C
    Darting Merfolk 1U Creature — Merfolk 1 1 Mercadian Masques-C
    Merfolk Looter 1U Summon Merfolk 1 1 Exodus-C
    Merfolk of the Pearl Trident U Creature — Merfolk 1 1 7th Edition-C
    Merfolk Raiders 1U Summon Merfolk 2 3 Mirage-C
    Merfolk Seer 2U Summon Merfolk 2 2 Mirage-C
    Merfolk Traders 1U Summon Merfolk 1 2 Weatherlight-C
    Mistfolk UU Summon Mistfolk 1 2 Ice Age-C
    Sandbar Merfolk U Summon Merfolk 1 1 Urza’s Saga-C
    Thalakos Mistfolk 2U Summon Illusion 2 1 Tempest-C
    River Merfolk UU Summon Merfolk 2 1 Fallen Empires-R
    Merfolk of the Pearl Trident U Creature — Merfolk 1 1 Starter 1999-S
    Jolting Merfolk 2UU Creature — Merfolk 2 2 Nemesis-U
    Merfolk Assassin UU Summon Merfolk 1 2 The Dark-U
    Merfolk Looter 1U Creature — Merfolk 1 1 7th Edition-U



    Gaea’s Skyfolk GU Creature — Elf Legend 2 2 Apocalypse-C
    Ebony Treefolk 1BG Creature — Treefolk 3 3 Apocalypse-U


    Verdeloth the Ancient 4GG Creature — Treefolk Legend 4 7 Invasion-R
    Hidden Ancients 1G Enchantment Urza’s Saga-U
    Living Terrain 2GG Enchant Land Prophecy-U
    Lord of Atlantis UU Creature — Lord 2 2 7th Edition-R
    River Merfolk UU Summon Merfolk 2 1 Fallen Empires-R
    Seahunter 2UU Creature — Mercenary 2 2 Nemesis-R
    Vodalian War Machine 1UU Summon Wall 0 4 Fallen Empires-R
    Tidal Courier 3U Creature — Merfolk 1 2 Apocalypse-U


    Icatian Town 5W Sorcery Classic Sixth Edition-R
    Icatian Town 5W Sorcery Fifth Edition-R
    Icatian Town 5W Sorcery Fallen Empires-R



    Cartographer 2G Creature — Townsfolk 2 2 Odyssey-C
    Cartographer 2G Summon Townsfolk 2 2 Exodus-U



    Anarchist 4R Summon Townsfolk 2 2 Exodus-C
    Anarchist 4R Creature — Townsfolk 2 2 Odyssey-C
    Keldon Vandals 2R Creature — Townsfolk 4 1 Urza’s Destiny-C



    Port Inspector 1U Creature — Townsfolk 1 2 Mercadian Masques-C
    Scrivener 4U Creature — Townsfolk 2 2 Odyssey-C
    Thalakos Drifters 2UU Summon Townsfolk 3 3 Exodus-R
    Scrivener 4U Summon Townsfolk 2 2 Exodus-U



    Devout Harpist W Summon Townsfolk 1 1 Urza’s Legacy-C
    Farrel’s Zealot 1WW Summon Townsfolk 2 2 Fallen Empires-C
    Icatian Moneychanger W Summon Townsfolk 0 2 Fallen Empires-C
    Tragic Poet W Summon Townsfolk 1 1 Urza’s Legacy-C
    Soul Sculptor 2W Summon Townsfolk 1 1 Urza’s Saga-R
    Treasure Hunter 2W Summon Townsfolk 2 2 Exodus-U
  13. Thallid Ice Cream Man 21sT CeNTuRy sChIZoId MaN

    You know, Survival of the Fittest isn't banned. Neither is Recurring Nightmare.

    With that in mind, here is the Licid Tribes deck I mentioned earlier:

    4 Stinging Licid
    4 Gliding Licid
    4 Leeching Licid
    4 Corrupting Licid
    4 Enraging Licid
    4 Convulsing Licid
    4 Nurturing Licid
    4 Tempting Licid
    4 Transmogrifying Licid
    1 Enduring Renewal
    1 Remembrance
    1 Celestial Dawn
    1 Serra’s Blessing
    1 Winds of Rath
    1 Moat
    1 Enlightened Tutor
    1 Gamble
    1 Fervor
    1 Kyren Negotiations
    1 Ancestral Mask
    1 Concordant Crossroads
    1 Harrow
    1 Primal Growth
    1 Elfhame Sanctuary
    1 Nature’s Lore
    1 Lay of the Land
    1 Skyshroud Claim
    1 Untamed Wilds
    1 Stamina
    1 Vernal Equinox
    1 Pack Hunt
    1 Titania’s Boon
    1 Vitalize
    1 Survival of the Fittest
    1 Worldly Tutor
    1 Angel’s Trumpet
    1 Belbe’s Portal
    7 Plains
    4 Island
    4 Swamp
    7 Mountain
    10 Forest
    1 Terminal Moraine
    1 City of Brass

    It certainly needs work.
    The only non-Licid card that I thought might work would be Illicit Auction, and that's pushing it.
  14. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    I don't know, I think if "Folk" were a tribe, Scavenger Folk would be the only members in it :)

    Of what you listed (Thanks!), it just seems you can have Treefolk, Merfolk, or Townsfolk as tribes as themselves but can't combine them.
  15. Captain Caveman New Member

    The Whole "folk" thing is kind of weak to begin with. By using 7th
    Edition card text Scavanger Folk are Satyr now, so that will not
    even work. The way I understand the rules, if there is atleast
    one creature of a "type" then you can use similiar cards to fill
    out the deck. I'm not a 100% sure that's right but thats how I've
    come to understand it. Anyway,.. its pointless, I don't see any
    good/fun/playable deck out of those cards. I'm sure someone
    creative could but come up with something but it beyond me....

    Treefolk and Merfolk work ok, I've tryed them.


    T.I.C.M.,

    Thanks for the idea. That decks great. Very original. I didn't
    think a Licid deck would be worth the trouble , but hay,.. you
    proved me wrong.:D

    Oh ya, Illicit Auction, would be a legal tribe card for the deck.
    Atleast, I think so?



    I kind of wish WoTc would have another casual deckbuilding
    contest. I'd send in several Tribe decks in hopes one of them
    would be picked. Or maybe we could hold a contest? If anyone
    is willing to do this please let me know. I'd be willing to donate
    my foil Nemata, Grove Guardian as a prize.
  16. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    Contest sounds fine, we just need to round up some judges.
  17. Captain Caveman New Member

    I was thinking we could do it like before. Someone start a new
    Tribes contest thread and after a few weeks we all vote on our
    favorite deck and the one with the most votes is the winner.

    How about this:

    1. If no one objects March 1st 12 noon could be the deadline.
    2. The decks should be somewhat original.
    3. Rebels are a shoe-in for a good deck but.................
    4. I'll donate my foil Nemata as a prize.
  18. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    Okay, why don't you start the thread in Voting (get that forum used :) ) and repost/copy-paste what has to go in a Tribes deck. We'll have one post per deck so if an entry doesn't meet the criteria, I can delete it. And add whatever else you think is necessary (like the 4 things you just mentioned).
  19. rkoelsch Angel Boy

    I had a question while I design my deck. Say I was designing an Angel tribe, can I use holy as a synonym for angelic and use 4 holy strengths or am I limited to things angelic?
  20. Captain Caveman New Member

    Thats a tough one. I'm not a 100% sure. Here one of the rules
    concerning the tribeness of a card.

    There will always be the misanthrope who tries and bend these rules:
    He will say "Ants" are his tribe, then stuff his deck full of ANTS, instANTS,
    enchANTments, giANTS and plANTS. This has to be foiled, and that is done
    by this rule: The name of your tribe that appears on the card has to include
    the the meaning of the name of your tribe. For example: the ant in enchantment
    doesn’t mean "tiny little insect that steals the show in A Bug’s Life." And the
    monk in Crimson Kobolds doesn’t mean ‘inhabitant of a monastery,’ either.
    (Still searching for the monk? It’s in ‘summon kobold.’)


    I'm kind of in a pickle. Holy is religious but is it angelic? I looked up
    Holy in Webster's but it didn't say thing about Angelic. But all of
    the references were somewhat angelic in nature. So I looked up
    Angelic and it didn't say anything about Holy.

    I'm not sure.

    Following the above rule (" The name of your tribe appears "ON"
    the card has to include the meaning of the name of your tribe.) I
    would not consider it a tribe card.

    If anyone disagree's with this feel free point out the flaw in my
    understanding of the rule.

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