The Perfect Basic Set: Nominations

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Chaos Turtle

Guest
Okay.
I know I'm "asking for it" but here goes...

Imagine yourselves on a design team whose job it is to determine which cards should be included in the "perfect" basic set.

Use this thread only for this purpose:

Nominations:

Nominate up to five cards from each color, including artifacts, multicolor, and nonbasic lands cards.

Use any criteria you like.

Vetoes:

Additionally, nominate up to five cards total as "vetoes." These would be cards that you feel must not be included in a "perfect" basic set.

Consider any card not printed since 4th Edition / Fallen Empires as automatically vetoed, as well as cards with or referring to the ability, "shadow."
Further assume that cards which have been banned / restricted for a long time as automatically vetoed.

If you think I've overlooked something with these guidelines, feel free to vote / veto using whatever sensible interperetation of these criteria you like.

The way in which vetoes will affect the nominating process is secret. This is to discourage "campaigning."
Suffice it to say that a single veto will not automatically exclude nominated cards; but cards which are vetoed and not nominated will be excluded.

Guidelines:

(Not following these will cause your post to be ignored, if not deleted.)

[*]List only five cards in each category.
[*]Label each category.
[*]Read previous posts. This is a nomination, not a vote, so repetitious nominations are pointless. Try to think of cards which are not already nominated; it's important to get a very large variety of responses.
[*]No spamming.
[*]No flaming or otherwise criticizing others' nominations. I want everyone's opinions, and everyone's sensible opinion is as valid as anyone else's.
[*]No explanations, please; only card names.
[*]No "campaigning." I understand many of you want to influence the nomination process excessively. Feel free to open your own thread to do so.

Purpose:

If you've guessed that I'm working on a new Apprentice Patch for our Casual Use, you're right.
One lesson of trying to create the Casualties of War set was that there are many, many cards which are essential to a healthy constructed environment. The process of trying to mimic these cards without simply copying them proved overly tiresome.

That is, I'd much rather concentrate on creating new cards than trying to redesign old ones.

Yes, I intend to revive the CPA Constructed Environment by creating a series of small "expansions" based upon an original fictional fantasy setting, its inhabitants, and events.

Yes, I will need more assistance later in this process. I will let you know when I am ready for that step.

Thanks for your time, participation, and cooperation.

:)
 
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Chaos Turtle

Guest
To give an example of how I would prefer these nominations to be formatted.
Some of these cards are blatantly obvious, which is why I'm nominating them... to make your votes not be wasted belaboring the obvious.

Black:
Dark Ritual
Dark Banishing
Stupor
Contagion
Corrupt

Blue:
Counterspell
Cloud Spirit
Manta Riders
Meditate
Man-o'War

Green:
Giant Growth
River Boa
Verdant Force
Llanowar Elves
Scragnoth

Red:
Shock
Crown of Flames
Stone Rain
Shatter
Rolling Thunder

White:
Disenchant
Crusade
Tundra Wolves
Story Circle
Armageddon

Multicolor:
Lobotomy
(Yavimaya Barbarian, et al)*

Artifact:
Jester's Cap
Grim Monolith
Winter Orb
Howling Mine
(Sky Diamond, et al)*

NB Land:
(Adarkar Wastes, et al)*
City of Brass
Crystal Vein
Ancient Tomb

Veto:
Force of Will
Yawgmoth's Bargain
Replenish
Rancor
Jackal Pup

*note: You may nominate a cycle like this; just name one card and add "et al.
 
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Lotus Mox

Guest
White:
Wrath of God
Armageddon
Purify
Story Circle
Serra Angel

Black:
Buried Alive
Exhume
Duress
Living Death
Black Knight

Red:
Arc Lightning
Gamble
Goblin Matron
Hammer of Bogardan
Kyren Negotiations

Green:
Creeping Mold
Deserst Twister
Scragnoth
Collective Unconscious
Endless Wurm

Blue:
Air Elemental
Rising Waters
Stroke of Genius
Sunder
Boomerang

Gold:(doesn't belong to a basic set IMHO)

Artifact:
Sanke Basket
Dingus Egg+Staff
Ankh of Mishra
Thran Dynamo
Braidwood Cup

NB Land:
Dust Bowl
City of Brass
(Adarkar Wastes, et al)
(Sandstone Needle, et al)

Veto:
Gloom
Grim Monolith
Morphling
Masticore
Replenish
 
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DÛke

Guest
...the Diabolic Edicts? It is the best Black creature removal. Oh well.

Black:
Diabolic Edict
Duress
Stupor
Drain Life
Dark Ritual

Blue:
Counterspell
Man-'o-War
Control Magic
Impulse
Evacuation

Red:
Shock
Hammer of Bogardan
Arc Lighting
Stone Rain
Gamble

White:
Serra Angel
Disenchant
Wrath of God
Armageddon
Purify

Green:
Wild Dogs
Desert Twister
Llanowar Elves
Greater Good
Creeping Mold

Artifacts:
Howling Mine
Scrying Glass
Puppet Strings
Sphere of Resistance
Bosium Strip

Veto:
Living Death
Rancor
Replenish
Stroke of Genius
Lighting Bolt
 
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Zadok001

Guest
Black:

Vampire Hounds
Perish
Vicious Hunger
Terror
Light of Day

Red:

Mogg Fanatic
Boil
Flashfires
Ironclaw Orcs
Two Headed Dragon

Green:

Greater Good (repeat, but I had to)
Wall of Roots
Wall of Blossoms
Sylvan Library
Trained Armadon

White:

Aura of Silence
Staunch Defenders
Infantry Veteran
Exile
Circle of Protection: Black (et al)

Blue:

Time Warp
Wall of Air
Mana Leak
Force Spike
Bribery

Artifact:
Larry's Disk
Bottle Gnomes
Icy Manipulator
Winter Orb
Phyrexian Walker

Land:
Invasion Duals (et al)

Vetoes:
I won't bother... :)

There ya' go!
 
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Azreal the Soulmaster

Guest
Black
Sengir vamp
white
congregate
blue
misdirection
red
rain of salt
green
priest of titania
land
fountain of cho (et al)
artifact
crawlspace
veto
Morphling
Masticore
Rising Waters
Tolarian Academy(et al)
i think you should mention that no legends should be included, since well they don't reprint legends in basic sets
 
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Ura

Guest
Black
Dark Ritual
Royal Assassin
Sengir Vampire
Diabolic Edict
Yawgmoth's Will
White
Wrath of God
Serra Angel
Veteran Bodygaurd
Swords to Plowshares
White Knight
Blue
Misdirection
Force of Will
Arcane Denial
Mahamoti Djinn
Ophidian
Red
Lightning Bolt
Wildfire Emissary
Pillage
Fireblast
Dragon Whelp
Green
Birds of Paradise
Creeping Mold
Yavimaya Elder
Skyshroud Elf
Kaysa
Artifacts
Helm of Obidience
Helm of Possession
Cursed Totem
Serrated Arrows
Aeolipile
Land
Soldevi Excavations
Thawing Glaciers
Lake of the Dead
Yavimaya Hollow
Kor Haven
Gold
Lobotomy
Recoil
Noble Panther
Yavimaya Barbarian *et al
Armadillo Cloak

Veto
Tolarian Academy
Gaea's Cradle
Rancor
Morphling
Necropotence
 
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Cateran Emperor

Guest
Black
Black Knight
Contagion
Duress
Dark Ritual
Sengir Vampire (at the very least a Vampire, any vampire)

White
White Knight
Armageddon
Wrath of God
Caribou Range
Tundra Wolves

Blue
Man o' War
Boomerang
Counterspell
Manta Riders
Force Spike

Green
Giant Growth
Llanowar Elves
Verdant Force
Land Grant
Survival of the Fittest

Red
Incinerate
Anarchy
Boil
Mogg Fanatic
Rathi Dragon

Gold
Stormbind
Vile Consumption
Overabundance
Teferi's Moat
Sliver Queen

Artifacts
Jet Medallion (et al)
Charcoal Diamond (et al)

Non-basic Land
Kjeldoran Outpost (et al)
Thawing Glaciers
Old Duals

Vetoes:
Tolarian Academy (et al)
Masticore
Replenish
Cadaverous Bloom
Time Spiral
 
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arhar

Guest
Green

Rancor (I feel that without this Green would always be "second fiddle")
Land Grant
Survival of the Fittest
Tsunami
Overrrrrrrrun

Black

Diabolic Edict
Terror
Blood Pet
Living Death
Pillar Tombs of Aku

Red

LIGHTING [expletive deleted - arhar]ING BOLT!!!
Goblin Cadets
Mogg Fantastic
Arc Lighting
Wildfire

White

Empyrial Armor
Longbow Archer
Serra Angel
White Knight
Hand of Justice

Blue

Arcane Denial
Mahamoti Djinn
The pro-red Tim from IA/AL
Sleight of Mind
Opportunity

Artifact:

Diamonds et al


Lands:

Original Dual Lands et al

VETO:

Tolarian Academy et al
Morphling
Necropotence
Masticore
Cursed Scroll
Rishadan Port
Replenish
Stroke of Genius
Recurring Nightmare
Goblin Bombardment
Chill
Perish
 
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Thallid Ice Cream Man

Guest
White:
Pursuit of Knowledge
Exalted Dragon
False Prophet
Light of Day
Justice

Blue:
Thieving Magpie
Dominate
Mana Short
Soothsaying
Wash Out

Black:
Haunted Crossroads
Yawgmoth's Agenda
Revenant
Hatred
Mind Slash

Red:
Incinerate
Tectonic Break
Pandemonium
Shard Phoenix
Citadel of Pain

Green:
Spitting Spider
Trained Armodon
Aluren
Eladamri's Vineyard
Vine Trellis

Gold:
Cauldron Dance
Samite Archer
Æther Rift
Undermine
Ranger en-Vec

Artifact:
Eye of Ramos *et al
Millstone
Icy Manipulator
Temporal Aperture
Planar Portal

Land:
Invasion duals *et al
Tempest pain *et al
Ancient Tomb
Rath's Edge
Tower of the Magistrate

Veto:
High Market
Squandered Resources
Abeyance
Chimeric Idol
Fluctuator
 
C

Chaos Turtle

Guest
Just wanted to say "thanks" for the input so far, especially to those who followed the guidelines and nominated cards not already on the list.

I'll post an update in a few days, while I prepare the poll for the voting.
 
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Duel

Guest
White:
Serra Angel
Alabaster Potion
Crusade
Armageddon
Wrath of God

Blue:
Mahomati Djinn
Counterspell
Soothsaying
Force Spike
Man-o-war

Green:
River Boa
Rancor
Birds of Paradise
Exploration
Verdant force

Red:
Lightning bolt
Mogg Fanatic
Earthquake
Pillage
Balduvian Hordes

Black:
Dark Rituals
Drain Life
Sengir Vampire
Necropotence
Hell's Caretaker

Artifacts:
Thran Dynamo
Millstone
Nevinyrral's Disk
Chimeric idol
Meekstone

gold cards:
Recoil
Stormbind
Wax/Wane
Lobotomy
Void

Lands
Original Dual lands
Gaea's Cradle
Kor Haven
Ghitu Encampment
Mishra's Factory

Vetoes:
Tradewind rider
Thawing Glaciers
Masticore
Illusions of Grandeur
Force of will
 
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Mikeymike

Guest
To answer arhar: Suq'Ata Firewalker is the prot-red pinger

I'm going to be repeating something but...

Black
Foul Imp
Phyrexian Plaguelord
Sengir Autocrat
Ill-Gotten Gains
Necromancy

Blue
Impulse
Whispers of the Muse
Forbid
Capsize
Equilibrium

White
Cataclysm
Mother of Runes
Paladin en-Vec
Warrior En-Kor
Parallax Wave

Green
City of Solitude
Fallow Wurm
Plow Under
Weatherseed Treefolk
Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary

Red
Fault Line
Pyrokenesis
Firestorm
Sneak Attack
Price of Progress

Artifact
Shield Sphere
Scroll Rack
Thran Lens
Anvil of Bogardan
Ensnaring Bridge

Gold
MUNDUNGU
Savage Twister
Phelddagrif
Surge of Strength
Reverse Damage

Land
Reflecting Pool
Legacy Man Lands (et al)
Volrath's Stronghold
Quicksand
Pendelhaven (I don't care if its legends, I want it!)

Veto
Urza's Block (just kidding)
Morphling
Voltaic Key
Bargain/Necro
Mana Vault
Blastoderm (I love green I just can't take him anymore)
 
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Duel

Guest
ARGHH! Am I the only one here who LIKES necropotence? Sure, trix ruined it, but it's a fun card by itself!
 
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Landkiller

Guest
Red :
Incinerate
Pillage
Keldon Vandals
Avalanche Riders
Shivan Dragon

Blue :
Gush
Equilibrium
Clone
Palinchron
Chronotog

Green :
Hahaha, why would they reprint green cards?

Oh well...
Wild Growth
Sacred Prey
Llanowar Elite
Craw Wurm
Fungusaur

White :
Academy Rector
Rout
Global Ruin
Mother of Runes
Gerrard's Wisdom

Black :
Yawgmoth's Will
Yawgmoth's Bargain
Ill-Gotten Gains
Necropotence
Doomsday

Artifact :
Winter Orb
Ring of Gix
Smokestack
Ensnaring Bridge
Nevinyrral's Disk

Gold :
Recoil
Cauldron Dance
Breathstealer's Crypt
Reflect Damage
Armadillo Cloak

Non-basic Lands :
Thran Quarry
Off-color pain CIPT from Tempest
Pain from Ice Age
Depletion from Masques
Gemstone Mine

Veto :
Birds of Paradise
Rancor
Llanowar Elves
Deranged Hermit
Verdant Force
(am I allowed to veto Forest?)
 
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