The Perfect Basic Set: Nominations

Discussion in 'CPA Voting Forum' started by Chaos Turtle, Nov 18, 2000.

  1. Chaos Turtle Demiurgic CPA Member, Admin Assistant

    Okay.
    I know I'm "asking for it" but here goes...

    Imagine yourselves on a design team whose job it is to determine which cards should be included in the "perfect" basic set.

    Use this thread only for this purpose:

    Nominations:

    Nominate up to five cards from each color, including artifacts, multicolor, and nonbasic lands cards.

    Use any criteria you like.

    Vetoes:

    Additionally, nominate up to five cards total as "vetoes." These would be cards that you feel must not be included in a "perfect" basic set.

    Consider any card not printed since 4th Edition / Fallen Empires as automatically vetoed, as well as cards with or referring to the ability, "shadow."
    Further assume that cards which have been banned / restricted for a long time as automatically vetoed.

    If you think I've overlooked something with these guidelines, feel free to vote / veto using whatever sensible interperetation of these criteria you like.

    The way in which vetoes will affect the nominating process is secret. This is to discourage "campaigning."
    Suffice it to say that a single veto will not automatically exclude nominated cards; but cards which are vetoed and not nominated will be excluded.

    Guidelines:

    (Not following these will cause your post to be ignored, if not deleted.)

    [*]List only five cards in each category.
    [*]Label each category.
    [*]Read previous posts. This is a nomination, not a vote, so repetitious nominations are pointless. Try to think of cards which are not already nominated; it's important to get a very large variety of responses.
    [*]No spamming.
    [*]No flaming or otherwise criticizing others' nominations. I want everyone's opinions, and everyone's sensible opinion is as valid as anyone else's.
    [*]No explanations, please; only card names.
    [*]No "campaigning." I understand many of you want to influence the nomination process excessively. Feel free to open your own thread to do so.

    Purpose:

    If you've guessed that I'm working on a new Apprentice Patch for our Casual Use, you're right.
    One lesson of trying to create the Casualties of War set was that there are many, many cards which are essential to a healthy constructed environment. The process of trying to mimic these cards without simply copying them proved overly tiresome.

    That is, I'd much rather concentrate on creating new cards than trying to redesign old ones.

    Yes, I intend to revive the CPA Constructed Environment by creating a series of small "expansions" based upon an original fictional fantasy setting, its inhabitants, and events.

    Yes, I will need more assistance later in this process. I will let you know when I am ready for that step.

    Thanks for your time, participation, and cooperation.

    :)
  2. Chaos Turtle Demiurgic CPA Member, Admin Assistant

    To give an example of how I would prefer these nominations to be formatted.
    Some of these cards are blatantly obvious, which is why I'm nominating them... to make your votes not be wasted belaboring the obvious.

    Black:
    Dark Ritual
    Dark Banishing
    Stupor
    Contagion
    Corrupt

    Blue:
    Counterspell
    Cloud Spirit
    Manta Riders
    Meditate
    Man-o'War

    Green:
    Giant Growth
    River Boa
    Verdant Force
    Llanowar Elves
    Scragnoth

    Red:
    Shock
    Crown of Flames
    Stone Rain
    Shatter
    Rolling Thunder

    White:
    Disenchant
    Crusade
    Tundra Wolves
    Story Circle
    Armageddon

    Multicolor:
    Lobotomy
    (Yavimaya Barbarian, et al)*

    Artifact:
    Jester's Cap
    Grim Monolith
    Winter Orb
    Howling Mine
    (Sky Diamond, et al)*

    NB Land:
    (Adarkar Wastes, et al)*
    City of Brass
    Crystal Vein
    Ancient Tomb

    Veto:
    Force of Will
    Yawgmoth's Bargain
    Replenish
    Rancor
    Jackal Pup

    *note: You may nominate a cycle like this; just name one card and add "et al.
  3. Lotus Mox New Member

    White:
    Wrath of God
    Armageddon
    Purify
    Story Circle
    Serra Angel

    Black:
    Buried Alive
    Exhume
    Duress
    Living Death
    Black Knight

    Red:
    Arc Lightning
    Gamble
    Goblin Matron
    Hammer of Bogardan
    Kyren Negotiations

    Green:
    Creeping Mold
    Deserst Twister
    Scragnoth
    Collective Unconscious
    Endless Wurm

    Blue:
    Air Elemental
    Rising Waters
    Stroke of Genius
    Sunder
    Boomerang

    Gold:(doesn't belong to a basic set IMHO)

    Artifact:
    Sanke Basket
    Dingus Egg+Staff
    Ankh of Mishra
    Thran Dynamo
    Braidwood Cup

    NB Land:
    Dust Bowl
    City of Brass
    (Adarkar Wastes, et al)
    (Sandstone Needle, et al)

    Veto:
    Gloom
    Grim Monolith
    Morphling
    Masticore
    Replenish
  4. DÛke Memento Mori

    ...the Diabolic Edicts? It is the best Black creature removal. Oh well.

    Black:
    Diabolic Edict
    Duress
    Stupor
    Drain Life
    Dark Ritual

    Blue:
    Counterspell
    Man-'o-War
    Control Magic
    Impulse
    Evacuation

    Red:
    Shock
    Hammer of Bogardan
    Arc Lighting
    Stone Rain
    Gamble

    White:
    Serra Angel
    Disenchant
    Wrath of God
    Armageddon
    Purify

    Green:
    Wild Dogs
    Desert Twister
    Llanowar Elves
    Greater Good
    Creeping Mold

    Artifacts:
    Howling Mine
    Scrying Glass
    Puppet Strings
    Sphere of Resistance
    Bosium Strip

    Veto:
    Living Death
    Rancor
    Replenish
    Stroke of Genius
    Lighting Bolt
  5. Zadok001 CPA Founder, Greater Good

    Black:

    Vampire Hounds
    Perish
    Vicious Hunger
    Terror
    Light of Day

    Red:

    Mogg Fanatic
    Boil
    Flashfires
    Ironclaw Orcs
    Two Headed Dragon

    Green:

    Greater Good (repeat, but I had to)
    Wall of Roots
    Wall of Blossoms
    Sylvan Library
    Trained Armadon

    White:

    Aura of Silence
    Staunch Defenders
    Infantry Veteran
    Exile
    Circle of Protection: Black (et al)

    Blue:

    Time Warp
    Wall of Air
    Mana Leak
    Force Spike
    Bribery

    Artifact:
    Larry's Disk
    Bottle Gnomes
    Icy Manipulator
    Winter Orb
    Phyrexian Walker

    Land:
    Invasion Duals (et al)

    Vetoes:
    I won't bother... :)

    There ya' go!
  6. Azreal the Soulmaster Sorrow's Rhapsody

    Black
    Sengir vamp
    white
    congregate
    blue
    misdirection
    red
    rain of salt
    green
    priest of titania
    land
    fountain of cho (et al)
    artifact
    crawlspace
    veto
    Morphling
    Masticore
    Rising Waters
    Tolarian Academy(et al)
    i think you should mention that no legends should be included, since well they don't reprint legends in basic sets
  7. Ura Feline Lord of the Pit

    Black
    Dark Ritual
    Royal Assassin
    Sengir Vampire
    Diabolic Edict
    Yawgmoth's Will
    White
    Wrath of God
    Serra Angel
    Veteran Bodygaurd
    Swords to Plowshares
    White Knight
    Blue
    Misdirection
    Force of Will
    Arcane Denial
    Mahamoti Djinn
    Ophidian
    Red
    Lightning Bolt
    Wildfire Emissary
    Pillage
    Fireblast
    Dragon Whelp
    Green
    Birds of Paradise
    Creeping Mold
    Yavimaya Elder
    Skyshroud Elf
    Kaysa
    Artifacts
    Helm of Obidience
    Helm of Possession
    Cursed Totem
    Serrated Arrows
    Aeolipile
    Land
    Soldevi Excavations
    Thawing Glaciers
    Lake of the Dead
    Yavimaya Hollow
    Kor Haven
    Gold
    Lobotomy
    Recoil
    Noble Panther
    Yavimaya Barbarian *et al
    Armadillo Cloak

    Veto
    Tolarian Academy
    Gaea's Cradle
    Rancor
    Morphling
    Necropotence
  8. Cateran Emperor Passed On

    Black
    Black Knight
    Contagion
    Duress
    Dark Ritual
    Sengir Vampire (at the very least a Vampire, any vampire)

    White
    White Knight
    Armageddon
    Wrath of God
    Caribou Range
    Tundra Wolves

    Blue
    Man o' War
    Boomerang
    Counterspell
    Manta Riders
    Force Spike

    Green
    Giant Growth
    Llanowar Elves
    Verdant Force
    Land Grant
    Survival of the Fittest

    Red
    Incinerate
    Anarchy
    Boil
    Mogg Fanatic
    Rathi Dragon

    Gold
    Stormbind
    Vile Consumption
    Overabundance
    Teferi's Moat
    Sliver Queen

    Artifacts
    Jet Medallion (et al)
    Charcoal Diamond (et al)

    Non-basic Land
    Kjeldoran Outpost (et al)
    Thawing Glaciers
    Old Duals

    Vetoes:
    Tolarian Academy (et al)
    Masticore
    Replenish
    Cadaverous Bloom
    Time Spiral
  9. arhar Member

    Green

    Rancor (I feel that without this Green would always be "second fiddle")
    Land Grant
    Survival of the Fittest
    Tsunami
    Overrrrrrrrun

    Black

    Diabolic Edict
    Terror
    Blood Pet
    Living Death
    Pillar Tombs of Aku

    Red

    LIGHTING [expletive deleted - arhar]ING BOLT!!!
    Goblin Cadets
    Mogg Fantastic
    Arc Lighting
    Wildfire

    White

    Empyrial Armor
    Longbow Archer
    Serra Angel
    White Knight
    Hand of Justice

    Blue

    Arcane Denial
    Mahamoti Djinn
    The pro-red Tim from IA/AL
    Sleight of Mind
    Opportunity

    Artifact:

    Diamonds et al


    Lands:

    Original Dual Lands et al

    VETO:

    Tolarian Academy et al
    Morphling
    Necropotence
    Masticore
    Cursed Scroll
    Rishadan Port
    Replenish
    Stroke of Genius
    Recurring Nightmare
    Goblin Bombardment
    Chill
    Perish
  10. Thallid Ice Cream Man 21sT CeNTuRy sChIZoId MaN

    White:
    Pursuit of Knowledge
    Exalted Dragon
    False Prophet
    Light of Day
    Justice

    Blue:
    Thieving Magpie
    Dominate
    Mana Short
    Soothsaying
    Wash Out

    Black:
    Haunted Crossroads
    Yawgmoth's Agenda
    Revenant
    Hatred
    Mind Slash

    Red:
    Incinerate
    Tectonic Break
    Pandemonium
    Shard Phoenix
    Citadel of Pain

    Green:
    Spitting Spider
    Trained Armodon
    Aluren
    Eladamri's Vineyard
    Vine Trellis

    Gold:
    Cauldron Dance
    Samite Archer
    Æther Rift
    Undermine
    Ranger en-Vec

    Artifact:
    Eye of Ramos *et al
    Millstone
    Icy Manipulator
    Temporal Aperture
    Planar Portal

    Land:
    Invasion duals *et al
    Tempest pain *et al
    Ancient Tomb
    Rath's Edge
    Tower of the Magistrate

    Veto:
    High Market
    Squandered Resources
    Abeyance
    Chimeric Idol
    Fluctuator
  11. Chaos Turtle Demiurgic CPA Member, Admin Assistant

    Just wanted to say "thanks" for the input so far, especially to those who followed the guidelines and nominated cards not already on the list.

    I'll post an update in a few days, while I prepare the poll for the voting.
  12. Duel Has Less Posts Than Spiderman

    White:
    Serra Angel
    Alabaster Potion
    Crusade
    Armageddon
    Wrath of God

    Blue:
    Mahomati Djinn
    Counterspell
    Soothsaying
    Force Spike
    Man-o-war

    Green:
    River Boa
    Rancor
    Birds of Paradise
    Exploration
    Verdant force

    Red:
    Lightning bolt
    Mogg Fanatic
    Earthquake
    Pillage
    Balduvian Hordes

    Black:
    Dark Rituals
    Drain Life
    Sengir Vampire
    Necropotence
    Hell's Caretaker

    Artifacts:
    Thran Dynamo
    Millstone
    Nevinyrral's Disk
    Chimeric idol
    Meekstone

    gold cards:
    Recoil
    Stormbind
    Wax/Wane
    Lobotomy
    Void

    Lands
    Original Dual lands
    Gaea's Cradle
    Kor Haven
    Ghitu Encampment
    Mishra's Factory

    Vetoes:
    Tradewind rider
    Thawing Glaciers
    Masticore
    Illusions of Grandeur
    Force of will
  13. Mikeymike Captain Hiatus

    To answer arhar: Suq'Ata Firewalker is the prot-red pinger

    I'm going to be repeating something but...

    Black
    Foul Imp
    Phyrexian Plaguelord
    Sengir Autocrat
    Ill-Gotten Gains
    Necromancy

    Blue
    Impulse
    Whispers of the Muse
    Forbid
    Capsize
    Equilibrium

    White
    Cataclysm
    Mother of Runes
    Paladin en-Vec
    Warrior En-Kor
    Parallax Wave

    Green
    City of Solitude
    Fallow Wurm
    Plow Under
    Weatherseed Treefolk
    Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary

    Red
    Fault Line
    Pyrokenesis
    Firestorm
    Sneak Attack
    Price of Progress

    Artifact
    Shield Sphere
    Scroll Rack
    Thran Lens
    Anvil of Bogardan
    Ensnaring Bridge

    Gold
    MUNDUNGU
    Savage Twister
    Phelddagrif
    Surge of Strength
    Reverse Damage

    Land
    Reflecting Pool
    Legacy Man Lands (et al)
    Volrath's Stronghold
    Quicksand
    Pendelhaven (I don't care if its legends, I want it!)

    Veto
    Urza's Block (just kidding)
    Morphling
    Voltaic Key
    Bargain/Necro
    Mana Vault
    Blastoderm (I love green I just can't take him anymore)
  14. Duel Has Less Posts Than Spiderman

    ARGHH! Am I the only one here who LIKES necropotence? Sure, trix ruined it, but it's a fun card by itself!
  15. Landkiller CPA Menace

    Red :
    Incinerate
    Pillage
    Keldon Vandals
    Avalanche Riders
    Shivan Dragon

    Blue :
    Gush
    Equilibrium
    Clone
    Palinchron
    Chronotog

    Green :
    Hahaha, why would they reprint green cards?

    Oh well...
    Wild Growth
    Sacred Prey
    Llanowar Elite
    Craw Wurm
    Fungusaur

    White :
    Academy Rector
    Rout
    Global Ruin
    Mother of Runes
    Gerrard's Wisdom

    Black :
    Yawgmoth's Will
    Yawgmoth's Bargain
    Ill-Gotten Gains
    Necropotence
    Doomsday

    Artifact :
    Winter Orb
    Ring of Gix
    Smokestack
    Ensnaring Bridge
    Nevinyrral's Disk

    Gold :
    Recoil
    Cauldron Dance
    Breathstealer's Crypt
    Reflect Damage
    Armadillo Cloak

    Non-basic Lands :
    Thran Quarry
    Off-color pain CIPT from Tempest
    Pain from Ice Age
    Depletion from Masques
    Gemstone Mine

    Veto :
    Birds of Paradise
    Rancor
    Llanowar Elves
    Deranged Hermit
    Verdant Force
    (am I allowed to veto Forest?)

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