T2 discard deck,may need help

[immortal grave walker]

I"ve been trying to work on an effective T2 discard deck. I havent seen to many floating around, so I decided to give it a try. Any ideas or input is welcome. This is what I have so far.

4-rackling
4-masticore
4-dark ritual
4-order of yawgmoth
4-alley grifters
4-parallax nexus
4-unnerve

2-stupor
2-no mercy
4-pestilence
3-duress
1-ascendant evicar

20-swamps

 

[Griffith_se]

OK,

I'm not the best deck builder, but I do think I have so good advice for this deck type. I'm sure there are others that might have better ideas.

I think you have to much Discard, if I count correctly there are 20+ sources. I would go with about 10.

4 Order of Yawgmoth
4 Alley Grifters
4 Parallax Nexus
4 Unnerve
2 Stupor
3 Duress

I would add 1 Duress, And 1 Stupor. Maybe add Three Ravenous rats, and drop the rest.

Add 2 or 3 Phyrexian Negators for beatdown.

Creature distruction,

I would use 2 or 3 Thrashing Wumpus. Masticore is good, but I would only have 2, main deck.
3 Ticking Gnomes
3 Powder kegs
4 Snuff out
2 Vendetta

Utilitys,

Yawgmoth will is a must, 3 should do it.
4 Dark Ritual
2 Vampiric Tutors

Land,

4 Rishidan Ports
3 Spawning Pool
2 Dustbowl

Just some suggestions from a scrub, I guess the 2 main things that jumped out at me was, to much discard, and to many Masticores.

Here is a typical Black Control

3 Spawning Pool
4 Rishidan Port
2 Dust bowl
14 Swamp

2 Negator
3 Ravenous Rats
3 Trashing Wumpus
2 Masticore
3 Ticking Gnomes
4 Duress
3 Stupor
4 Snuff out
2 Vendetta
2 Vampiric Tutor
3 Yawgmoth Will
4 Dark Ritual
3 Powder Keg

Sideboard,

3 Massacre
2 Negator
3 Distorting Lens
3 Perish
1 Eradicate
3 Rapid Decay

Hope this is Useful Info.

[me][/me]

[Edited by Griffith_se on May 15th, 2000 at 01:09 PM]

 

[Gizmo]

The problem with pursuing a heavy discard strategy is that once you have got your opponent down to 0 cards the discard becomes pointless because they just play whatever they draw that turn. You have to be able to win rapidly once you have got their hand down to 0, and this is what this deck is missing.

Is Pestilence REALLY better than Thrashing Wumpus?
More to the point is it REALLY better than Forced March? Personally I don`t think it is.

4 Skittering Skirge
4 Scandalmonger
1 Rathi Assasin
2 Cateran Enforcer
(11)

4 Dark Ritual
4 Duress
3 Vendetta
1 Vampiric Tutor
4 Stupor
2 Yawgmoth`s Will
4 Forced March
1 Diabolic Servitude
2 Corrupt
(25)

2 Spawning Pool
3 Dust Bowl
19 Swamp
(24)

 

[immortal grave walker]

First off, Im a scrub player to. Im sure all your ideas are true cause they look good,but in my case i dont have many of the rares that were mentioned in your threads. My theory on my deck with the masticore, and the pestilence, was getting rid of the pesty weenies,and regenaration critters and pestilence is also for the kill if it comes to that point. I agree there might be to much on the discard end. as far as the negator its a great card im just not sur playing it cause its easy to damage it. As the wumpus it a great card to (I took beatings from it before) it can only take 3 damage, with pestilence i can kep the board clean. Like i said im a scrub that my input im sure your ideas would walk over mine. So there for ill take the ideas youve replied and see what i can come up with.

 

[immortal grave walker]

First off, Im a scrub player to. Im
sure all your ideas are true cause
they look good,but in my case i dont
have many of the rares that were
mentioned in your threads. My theory
on my deck with the masticore, and the
pestilence, was getting rid of the
pesty weenies,and regenaration
critters and pestilence is also for
the kill if it comes to that point. I
agree there might be to much on the
discard end. as far as the negator its
a great card im just not sure playing
it cause its easy to damage it. As the
wumpus it a great card to (I took
beatings from it before) it can only
take 3 damage, with pestilence i can
keep the board clean. Like i said im a
scrub thats my input im sure your ideas
would walk over mine. So there for ill
take the ideas youve replied and see
what i can come up with.

 

[FoundationOfRancor]

WEll first off, I'd like to welcome you to the CPA. No, to business
- 3 Ravenous Rats
- 2 Thrashing Wumpus (Doesent die when theres no cretures)
- 2 Masticore
- 4 Duress
- 4 Stupor
- 4 Vamp tutor
- 3 Cateran Enforcer
- 4 Dark Ritual
- 1 Volrath
- 1 Crovax
- 3 Snuff out
- 3 Vendeatta
- 2 Negator
LANd (Prob ports and spawning pools)

 

[Istanbul]

Rackling / Wheel of Torture?

Make your hand destruction work for you.