Should N. Korea be next?

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Spiderman, Apr 1, 2003.

  1. train The Wildcard!!!...

    I really didn't know that...

    ->So is a "Stink" bomb the mother of all bombs?!...:p
  2. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    Well, I'm thinking hydrogen and atomic could be the same, I'm not sure... but I think the Manhatten Project started with the hydrogen bomb, moved to the atomic for the end of the war, and it's been refined to nuclear (I think it has to do with which atoms are being split to provide the blast).
  3. Lotus Mox New Member

    er.. Spidey, no.
    The Atomic Bomb was the first (manhattan Project), it splits atoms. I think they are called nukes.
    The Hydrogen bomb uses a nuke to get enough energy to start nuclear fusion (like in the sun), it's way more destructive.

    There are also Cobalt bombs which are nukes which carry a lot of highly radioactive Cobalt-60 with them, they can be used to create heavy radiation over a huge area.

    (that's what I have in memory, this might not be completely correct as I don't really know the exact english terms)
  4. train The Wildcard!!!...

    Thanks Lotus Mox!!!...

    "So where does "Stink" fit in?...":confused: :p
  5. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    Looks like someone's going to need to do some research (not me! :) ) 'cause I thought the hydrogen bombs splits hydrogen for its energy and the current nuclear weapons split uranium. I'm not sure what the atomic bomb did - if it's the same as the hydrogen then it's obvious (following my reasoning) but if it's different...

    And the hydrogen came first, then atomic, then current nuclear.
  6. train The Wildcard!!!...

    Hydrogen Bomb, also known as H-bomb or thermonuclear bomb, nuclear weapon in which a thermonuclear fusion reaction takes place among heavy isotopes of hydrogen (either deuterium or tritium) to produce an explosion. A hydrogen bomb produces an extremely large explosion, equivalent to millions of tons of TNT (see Trinitrotoluene).

    The hydrogen bomb came in part out of the creation of the atomic bomb. In 1939 physicists in the United States and in Europe realized that a powerful explosive weapon could be created through the splitting, or fission, of uranium atoms. In 1942 the U.S. government established the top secret Manhattan Project, which created the first atomic bomb. The first fission atomic bomb was exploded as a test in 1945. Near the end of World War II, on August 6, 1945, the United States dropped one fission bomb, called “Little Boy,” on the Japanese city of Hiroshima. Three days later it dropped a second, called “Fat Man,” on the city of Nagasaki. The bombs were extremely destructive, killing more than 100,000 people.

    Several scientists who worked on the Manhattan Project imagined an even more powerful weapon triggered by a fission reaction but fueled by the fusion of hydrogen. The United States detonated the first hydrogen bomb in a test on Enewetak Atoll, in a remote region of the Pacific Ocean, on November 1, 1952. Its explosive force was about 500 times greater than the Hiroshima or Nagasaki bombs. The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) detonated its first hydrogen bomb on August 12, 1953. Today, most nuclear weapons are fusion thermonuclear devices.


    The presumable structure of a thermonuclear bomb is as follows: at its center is an atomic bomb; surrounding it is a layer of lithium deuteride (a compound of lithium and deuterium, the isotope of hydrogen with mass number 2); around it is a tamper, a thick outer layer, frequently of fissionable material, that holds the contents together in order to obtain a larger explosion. Neutrons from the atomic explosion cause the lithium to fission into helium, tritium (the isotope of hydrogen with mass number 3), and energy. The atomic explosion also supplies the temperatures needed for the subsequent fusion of deuterium with tritium, and of tritium with tritium (50,000,000 and 400,000,000, respectively). Enough neutrons are produced in the fusion reactions to produce further fission in the core and to initiate fission in the tamper.

    Since the fusion reaction produces mostly neutrons and very little that is radioactive, the concept of a “clean” bomb has resulted: one having a small atomic trigger, a less fissionable tamper, and therefore less radioactive fallout . Carrying this progression further would result in the suggested neutron bomb, which would have a minimum trigger and a nonfissionable tamper; there would be blast effects and a hail of lethal neutrons but almost no radioactive fallout; this theoretically would cause minimal physical damage to buildings and equipment but kill most living things. The theorized cobalt bomb is, on the contrary, a radioactively “dirty” bomb having a cobalt tamper. Instead of generating additional explosive force from fission of the uranium, the cobalt is transmuted into cobalt-60, which has a half-life of 5.26 years and produces energetic (and thus penetrating) gamma rays. The half-life of Co-60 is just long enough so that airborne particles will settle and coat the earth's surface before significant decay has occurred, thus making it impractical to hide in shelters. This prompted physicist Leo Szilard to call it a “doomsday device” since it was capable of wiping out life on earth.

    Whew... That's a lot of work...:rolleyes: ;)
  7. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    So it was atomic and then hydrogen, of which the most powerful (so far) is with us today...
  8. Ferret CPA Founder, Slacker

    Nice research, Train. I'm impressed...and more importantly, a nice distraction from Duke's rantings...


    "did anyone actually read that?"
  9. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    I mostly read the part before the >>>>> and skimmed the last part as I wasn't really interested in that :)
  10. train The Wildcard!!!...

    Thanks Ferret, and glad you all enjoyed it...

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