i had this idea the other day...it seems really fun and would be cool to pull off. I was looking at the Kibler deck 'Secret Dragon'. RWG w9ith rith and the usual secret force component. I can't afford to have more than 4 duals at a time so i cut white and looked through stuff to find RG fatties for the deck. here's what i found in particular: Shivan Wurm 3RG Trample gating 7/7 this is not only unnaturally fat, but it works well with a personal staple of secret force: Deranged Hermit 3GG Echo put four squirrel things into play all suirrels get +1/+1 1/1 look fun to you? it does to me. here's the list i wuld play: 1x Verdant Force 4x Shivan Wurm 2x Deranged hermit 3x Llanowar Elves 3x Fyndhorn Elves 2x Rofellos, llanowar Emissary 2x Spike Weaver 3x Spike feeder 3x Elvish Lyrist 1x Woodripper 4x Natural Order 2x Overrun 4x Creeping Mold 4x Plow Under 1x Crop Rotation 1x Kaervek's Torch 3x Gaea's Cradle 4x Wasteland 4x Taiga 9x Forest yes this is extended not casual...looks kinda fun though eh? lots of squirrels...more than usual questions? comments? outrade? T.J.