Rhinos + Stormseeker (letter)

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Hey all. Just thought I'd share with ya a letter I sent to Rasko. I felt, as an obligation to help out the community, that I only share my great findings. So I sent it to Rasko and now I share that letter, because it says it so well, better than I can do trying to tell you guys from the start.


Hey Rasko!

You probably already covered this savage Type I tech in your "You CAN Play Type I" column, but I felt I should share this with you in the off chance you don't know about it. I mean, its so groundbreaking is threw me for a loop when I first saw it active in a game. I was like "Why the hell hasn't anyone ever though of this before!?" Of course, you'd be the dude to know if this was at the Vintage Championships recently, as I was passed out at the whole time the coverage was on Star City (sorry, dude!). But here goes...

I was in this one game against a guy who is known to be a groundpounder beatdown player. I'm desperate and throw down the only card that will save my butt because our board position is in a total stalemate, yet the two cards he has in hand will probably be the aces in his sleeve he needs to win. So I flop down the last card in my hand: Glasses of Urza (a good Affinity booster. I've done the testing and stand by the fact that in the vintage metagame, its better than the spellbombs). So I take a gander and see if I'm gonna get a turn after I'm done. He may just kill me, and I have to know. Sure enough: Crash or Rhinos (the guy actually had an honest-to-goodness ORIGINAL Mirage version--the awesome collector skills he flaunts sometimes) and Stormseeker (Legends version. Bleh. Ink looks like crap on those. Feel sorry for him.)

"Good card combo!" He says sternly, with all seriousness about the game state on his face.

Damn, I'm dead. He takes his turn, I lose. The power fiend didn't even need Concodnant Crossroads to get that combo going. Can you believe it. Taps out, casts Rhinos, then Stormseeker.

I should quit this game.

I suck too much and need some advice on deckbuilding. Maybe I should stop reading GameSpyDaily.com for Magic tourney coverage, because their netdecks never get me anywhere, especially against the dreaded Rhinos/Stormseeker thing.

Anyway, just thought you might want to know about this in case it hasn't been featured in the "Control Players Bible." But this has probably been a waste of time because I'll bet you knew and already did a five-parter on how it stacks up against The Deck.

Have Fun!
-Sean "SeFRo" Roney
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SeFRo's Vault:
http://www.geocities.com/sefroney/index.html

"This is my sig. There are many like it, but this one is mine."
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train

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:D

"Now if you'll come this way ladies and gentlemen... Oh! - Watch out for the Rhino droppings!... Now move along..."
 
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Best combo on Earth! I can't wait to see an eval of it in YOU CAN PLAY TYPE I
 
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Originally posted by rasko
I sure hope I don't land in a cartoon because of this...
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Thanks for idea, dude!!! :D :D :D

Especially considering that little finale at the end. Ah man I loved that ending to his article! HAHAHA!!!!

Even though he doesn't write for this site, rasko has definitely shown he's one of us proud CPA'ers! :D
 
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it's rakso... :)

Yeah, it's too bad he doesn't write fr us, but I can understand it since Star City has a bigger audience and he does write more for the "tourney" audience and stuff. But at least he puts us on his sig :)
 
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train

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Being in someone's sig is actually a great deal of respect being shown...;) :cool:
 
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So, you mean Wrahscoe respects us?Sorry...I just had to make fun of the mispelling... :D
 
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Mikeymike

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But I'm missing the combo - how do the Rhinos and the Stormseeker tie together?

Or am I just missing the sarcasm :confused:
 
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BigBlue

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sarcasm is often missed when reading things... the vocal inflections just aren't there... Of course I've been told that my own sarcasm sounds too much like my actual voice so few people pick up on it and I've gotten myself into hot water far too often...

Because of the awesum M4dd sk1l2 that the Rhinos/Seeker combo offers, I'm feeling compelled to actually come up with that deck... In all of those dumb cards which count highest casting cost of a permanent you control... is there one that has all or target player draw cards = to that CC? I think Pheldagriff should be in there too...
 
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mythosx

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What do you mean you dont see the combo? It's sheer brilliance. I dont think you can play the stormseeker first either. You have to play the crash of rhinos first in order for it to work, like Sean wrote in his article.
 
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Anyone who does not understand the Rhinoseeker deck must be ejected from playing Magic entirely. Not understanding it is a total lack of comprehension for one of the most principal of fundamentals behind the game.

I will now present the decklist as I sent it to Rasko:

Rhinoseeker v2.0
30x Chromium
10x Swamp
10x Island
10x Plains


Of course, you have to use wishes to get the Rhino/Seeker cards into your hand. But as powerful as this deck is, it is only 50/50 in the mirror match. That is why I have developed a better version:

California Rhinoseeker
30x Chromium
10x Swamp
10x Island
10x Karakas

There, replacing Plains with Karakas hands-down prevents the opponent from doing anything.
 
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BigBlue

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What we need for this deck is a Mana Engine which will produce a large Braingeyser or Stroke before using the Stormseeker.

I suggest Using Energy Tap to tap the Rhino's for mana. To recurse this engine would require either twiddle, Intruder Alarm, Lapis Lazuli Talisman, or such to untap the Rhinos for another Energy Tap... Sadly the power of the Energy Tap is a sorcery so you can't use the Isochron Sceptre with it or a cunning wish to get it... But I guess 8 mana for U should be at Sorcery Speed. At least the Stormseeker is an Instant and thereby retrievable.

Note: a Polar Kraken or Leviathon might be better suited than the lowly Rhinos... using something like an Elvish Piper to put it in play... Or you could use one of those evolution cards which get them from your library into play... Don't worry about those untap requirements - you have Twiddle or your Lapis Lazuli Talisman for that. I suggest you use them in conjunction with one another...

Twiddle the Polar Kraken...
Energy Tap the Kraken for 11
Activate the Lazuli using 3 to untap the Kraken
Energy Tap the Kraken again for 11 (you are now up to 19)
Braingeyser your opponent for 19 cards
Now you cast your Stormseeker to deal at least 19 damage...

All this using only 25GUUUUU and 7 cards (not to mention the sac'd land in your upkeep). If you used Fastbond and Sylvan Library you could get it going quickly too with the right draw.

Of course you'll want to have City of Solitude in play to prevent Counterspells.

So, now that we're down to only an 8 card combo or so... it is definately going to rock the next vintage tournament in your area.

Never underestimate the power of RhinoSeeker or the M4dd 5KiL2 players who use it.

And furthermore. I'm not only not serious, I'm not submitting this to Rasko - Rakso's evil twin... :D (Maybe Roscoe P Coltrane will steal it though.)
 
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Istanbul

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That is absolutely repulsive. You are BANISHED from these boards for your blasphemy.
 
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train

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I don't think you got any Coat recently BigBlue - are you on something else?...:eek: :cool:
 
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BigBlue

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I think I got some bad coat recently - with all these talks of your moving, the texas-montana coat pipeline has dried up... :D

What can I say, sarcasm brings out the best - er worst - in me...

This isn't hi-techmagic.com, it's casualplayers.org. Now, if someone actually builds that thing and uses it, they are my frickin heroes... I wouldn't be caught dead with that in my deck box... not even if I had 4 energy taps...

I do use seeker in my Intruder Alarm Deck - but that is just a really bad deck that no one likes me to use - because when it works even I don't like it... I keep wanting to do a Million Squirrel march though. And I suppose this is the blasphomy which I deserve expulsion for...
 
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