New Fast Effect Style

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orgg

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Thumbs Down.

It just doesn't fit-- it looks like the other web comics out there, and abandons the 'Red Meat' esque Fast Effects... You had several ideas for new FE characters when you got your scanner done... WHY change it to simply hand drawn? What happened to the Severed Legion hand or Rakso's expressions?

You've got a good thing going... Don't change it.
 
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mythosx

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I don't care either way but that cat freaked me out. It winked at me and I wet myself.
 
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>>>Thumbs Down. It just doesn't fit-- it looks like the other web comics out there

Wow, Orgg, you have a good point. Ironically, looking at other web comics was the inspiration for this little experiment. I liked the look of alternating panels that didn't look to cut-and-paste. I especially liked the idea that original panels each and every time meant more art practice so the strip would improve over time.


>>> and abandons the 'Red Meat' esque Fast Effects... *snip* WHY change it to simply hand drawn?

Ah yes, after all is said and done, Ret Meat is lord of the modern comic world. Max Cannon is God! :D But the static nature of it all seems cheap when I mimic the style. All I end up doing is cut and pasting from this huge file containing multiple poses, mouths, eyes, even hands, for different characters. Yes, Hannibal Squirrel can point, raise a punching glove, then hold up a flag and sell cookies, but if you take a look at it, they're the same four hand poses just cut and pasted to different strips. Same with all the other characters. And hand drawn has been the nature of all the Fast Effect characters, except in the very beginning, and the Sefro and Rasko images.


>>> You had several ideas for new FE characters when you got your scanner done... What happened to the Severed Legion hand or Rakso's expressions?

The new characters, such as the cat in the penguin suit, hand-drawn Sefro, are...somewhere. I just forget. They're on some drive or disk somewhere in the house, just dunno which one. But I don't recall a Severed Legion character. Did I actually say I was making one? (looks at the new sample comic link above...notices disembodied hands...)


>>> You've got a good thing going... Don't change it.

Thanks very much. Unfortunately, I'm unhappy with the process I have used to produce the Fast Effect strips, so I'm looking to change it. I'm finding myself agreeing with you on the new style, though: That it's a bad move. Perhaps somebody can write in with a solution?


>>> I don't care either way but that cat freaked me out. It winked at me and I wet myself.

Mythosx, I worry for you. Especially if the manner in which you "wet yourself" was not one of fear, but happiness. Fear is what I shall assume it is. Yes, you should be freaked out by Mr. Cat. He's a dangerous fellow, indeed.
 
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orgg

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Remember we were discussing on Magic online your illustrations, and I remarked how good of a character a severed hand would be, alluding to Evil Dead and such, as well as letting it be a very expressive character (another thing y'were talking about, the way the character's movement was kinda limited to expressions), as the hand is a very versatile thing... and that the tendon/bone coming out of the bottom could be a good pair of 'legs' to let it point and such...

I'd say make your current 'cookie cutter' comics more expressive... but subtly.

Also, if y'want to hand draw it all in that bland way (Max Cannon does, from what I hear), go ahead. Might be interesting.
 
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I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, Orgg. Only bit you said there that sounds familiar is my frustration over character expressions. Bone legs...now I'm sure I'd remember that. Are you just messing with me?

As for what Max Cannon does, I don't think he hand draws them. I remember reading an interview and he said he did all the stuff on a Macintosh, if I recall correctly.
 

Spiderman

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I don't know, it's different... I guess I'm used to the old style, but I'm not totally against this one.
 
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Well, decided to keep Mr. Cat as a recurring character. But now, the art style has changed dramatically once again, but will now be a different strip titled "Cards on the Brain."

So Orgg, you don't have to worry about FE changing for the time being. ;)
 

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orgg

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Originally posted by SeFRo
I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, Orgg. Only bit you said there that sounds familiar is my frustration over character expressions. Bone legs...now I'm sure I'd remember that. Are you just messing with me?
No, not at all. It was at about... probably one AM, your time. I was playing a Mentor match and chatting to you on MOL, and we were talking about the expressions and you mentioned you wanted to be able to have more expression. I remarked that a severed Zombie hand like on Severed Legeon (Onslaught and 8e, if y'need to look it up) was a classic kind of character from Evil Dead, the Addams Family, and other various media, and that the hand is one of the most expressive parts of the body. You said that was a good idea, but usually it has to be attached to something to be able to make all the usual 'rude' gestures a hand makes... I suggested having the connective tissue that's sticking out of the hand as a prop... mabe even have the two bones of the upper arm broken off in the wrist and use that as impromptu legs when the hand would be poinging at something or making a gesture. I also suggested it be missing it's middle finger so you couldn't tell if it was making a fist or... somthing else, but you said that might be hard to draw without it looking like you just forgot a finger.

Ringing any bells?
 
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train

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Not for the new style - don't adapt unless it means your survival...

be you...
 
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So nobody likes the new style, eh? Well, I can't blame ya. It is a very "busy" sort of style I tried out there.

Which is why the next style I tried out was in the total opposite direction, which had me created Cards on the Brain. Here, things are very, very, very simplified, with the front limbs of the animals not even being shown unless they are doing something. And there are a lot of disconnected lines to imply shape, but never totally define them. I actually like this style a whole lot.

What do y'all think of the Cards on the Brain style? I might post another thread with the first six of them so you can get a better look at everything. Plus, the first two look like the sample above, while the next four look a helluva lot better after I went out and got myself an "ultra fine point" marker.
 
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At least one person besides me likes the new comic. Orgg has voiced his opinion against it. I like FE too, but CotB is much more creative for me. A lot more time intensive, but you'll see how it is a benefit with the next batch. A lot more "animation" to the panels is open now.

FE should be getting a few closing strips when I get around to it (had meant to over a month ago it feels) and I'll have something funny planned.

But yes, I will stop doing FE once that is done, but at that time I'll open it up for guest authors by making the index files I use available for download. :D
 
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