Mischievous Quanar

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Nightstalkers

Guest
Mirari is in odyssey, Odyssey is 90% crap, I wouldn't spend my money on Odyssey except for the lands...

Why should I buy Tournament packs until my ears bleed. Wait, I don't have ears anymore :(
 
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Killerbob

Guest
well, there ARE other ways to get cards, than to buy packs until you get the card you want...

Anyway, I dont think this blue beast is anything special. Too expensive to use, and too easy to kill.
 
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Skyrider

Guest
easy to kill? yes, heartstone the sucker a few times and suddenly he's a free fork for UU that flips back for UU
 
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Nightstalkers

Guest
Sorry, I got burned by that ruling before and that is not correct:

Heartstone:
Info: Color=Artifact Type=Artifact Cost=3 SH(U)
Text(SH+errata): Creatures' activated abilities cost {1} less to play. If
this would make an ability cost 0 or less mana to play, it costs {1}, plus
any nonmana costs. [Oracle 2002/05/20]

The cost reduction can be applied to extra costs such as Gloom.
[D'Angelo 1998/02/27]
Will not add a 1 generic mana cost to abilities with no generic mana in
their activation cost. [Barclay 1998/02/27]
It will never reduce any colored mana portion of an activation cost.
[D'Angelo 1998/11/06]
 
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train

Guest
The morph(turn face up) cost won't change... but the turn face down will... that is an activated ability that the creature has...;)
 
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Skyrider

Guest
I never said it'd reduce the colored cost. since both the morph ability and the re-flip ability cost <M>UU if you had heartstones in play it would reduce the cost of each ability.
 
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train

Guest
I was clarifying it for everyone...

I don't think Skyrider, and Nightstalkers were on the same page...

"Is anyone, besides me(;)), ever on the same page as Nightstalkers?..."
 
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Killerbob

Guest
So morph is not an activated ability? I didnt know that. Guess youre right.
 
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train

Guest
The best description of a morphed creature(I'd say face down, but then there's illusionary mask...) is that it's under an effect, that to end the effect, you pay the morph cost to turn it face up.

But it's not an activated ability...

Hmmm, that means that if there's a city of solitude in play -

City of Solitude
Color= Green Type= Enchantment Cost= 2G VI(R)
Text (VI+errata): Players can play spells and abilities only during their turn. (Triggered abilities are unaffected.) [Oracle 1999/07/01]

The morph cost can be paid and the creature turned face up during any turn... hmmm...
 
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