MindMaster Arabian Nights: Ransac vs BigBlue

R

Ransac

CPA Trash Man
Untap, Upkeep, Forest, Desert Twister your 4/4 Rukh. Attack with my Flyers. I'll assume no blocks. Done.

BigBlue: 14
Hand: 5
In Play:

(T) Island x1
(T) Plains x1
(T) Mountain x1
(TT) Swamp x2
(T) Forest x1

(T) Flying Men (4/4; Flying) (*Unstable)
(U) Desert Nomads (2/2; DesertWalk; Prevent dmg from deserts to ~)
(U) War Elephant (2/2; Banding; Trample)
(S) Desert Nomads (2/2; DesertWalk; Prevent dmg from deserts to ~)
(T) Cuombajj Witches (1/3; T: do 1 pt of Dmg to target creature or player, ~ does 1 pt of dmg to target creature or player of opponents choosing)
(S) Moorish Cavalry (3/3, Trample)
(S) Camel (0/1, Banding; prevent all damage from Desert to ~ as well as all creatures banded w/ ~)

Graveyard: Sindbad, Metamorphosis, Rukh Egg
Removed from Game:
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Ransac: 14
Hand: 6
In Play:

(T) Island
(T) Swamp
(T) Plains
(T) Mountain
(TT) Forest

(U) Giant Tortoise (1/4, Giant Tortoise gets +0/+3 as long as it's untapped.)
(T) Flying Men (1/1, flying)
(U) Khabal Ghoul (5/5, At end of turn, put a +1/+1 counter on Khabal Ghoul for each creature put into a graveyard from play this turn.) one +1/+1 counter
(U) Khabal Ghoul (5/5, At end of turn, put a +1/+1 counter on Khabal Ghoul for each creature put into a graveyard from play this turn.) one +1/+1 counter
(U) Nafs Asp (1/1, Whenever Nafs Asp deals damage to a player, that player loses 1 life at the beginning of his or her next draw step unless he or she pays 1 before that draw step.)
(T) Bird Maiden (1/2, flying)
(T) Bird Token (4/4, flying)


Graveyard: Metamorphosis, Rukh Egg, Wyluli Wolf, Desert Twister
Removed from Game:

Ransac, cpa trash man
 
B

BigBlue

Guest
(Booooooooo.....)

Untap, Add unstable counter, Play Plains, Play Merchant Ship, Play Hasran Ogress, Ali Baba, Attack w/ Everything but the Witches (Band the Camel & Elephant w/ the Cavalry) Blocks & Responses?

Nice twister, that's probably gonna make it a W for you.

BigBlue: 14
Hand: 3
In Play:

(Ench) Unstable Mutation (Ench Creature get's +3/+3; At the beginning of it's controller's upkeep put a -1/-1 counter on it)

(T) Island x1
(UU) Plains x2
(T) Mountain x1
(TT) Swamp x2
(U) Forest x1

(T) Flying Men (3/3; Flying) (*Unstable)
(T) Desert Nomads (2/2; DesertWalk; Prevent dmg from deserts to ~)
(T) War Elephant (2/2; Banding; Trample)
(T) Desert Nomads (2/2; DesertWalk; Prevent dmg from deserts to ~)
(U) Cuombajj Witches (1/3; T: do 1 pt of Dmg to target creature or player, ~ does 1 pt of dmg to target creature or player of opponents choosing)
(T) Moorish Cavalry (3/3, Trample)
(T) Camel (0/1, Banding; prevent all damage from Desert to ~ as well as all creatures banded w/ ~)

(S) Merchant Ship (0/2; If this attacks and is not blocked, gain 2 life; Islandhome)
(S) Ali Baba (1/1; R: Tap target wall)
(S) Hasran Ogress (3/2; ~ does 2 dmg to me if I don't pay 2 when attacking with ~)

Graveyard: Sindbad, Metamorphosis, Rukh Egg
Removed from Game:
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Ransac: 14
Hand: 6
In Play:

(T) Island
(T) Swamp
(T) Plains
(T) Mountain
(TT) Forest

(U) Giant Tortoise (1/4, Giant Tortoise gets +0/+3 as long as it's untapped.)
(T) Flying Men (1/1, flying)
(U) Khabal Ghoul (6/6, At end of turn, put a +1/+1 counter on Khabal Ghoul for each creature put into a graveyard from play this turn.) one +1/+1 counter
(U) Khabal Ghoul (6/6, At end of turn, put a +1/+1 counter on Khabal Ghoul for each creature put into a graveyard from play this turn.) one +1/+1 counter
(U) Nafs Asp (1/1, Whenever Nafs Asp deals damage to a player, that player loses 1 life at the beginning of his or her next draw step unless he or she pays 1 before that draw step.)
(T) Bird Maiden (1/2, flying)
(T) Bird Token (4/4, flying)

Graveyard: Metamorphosis, Rukh Egg, Wyluli Wolf, Desert Twister
Removed from Game:
 
R

Ransac

CPA Trash Man
QUESTION WITH BANDING AND TRAMPLE (as there always is):

Does the trample essentially give your banding party the ability to direct the damage to me instead of the creature I block the band with?


Ransac, cpa trash man
 
B

BigBlue

Guest
I don't think so... Banding says I can assign the damage from your defenders as I see fit. Trample says any remaining damage will flow through to the defender. Nothing in those to statements indicates I can somehow "assign damage to the defender."

When I'm the attacker - unless you have banding, I can always assign my damage to your creatures as I see fit - whether it is one creature (like a Craw Giant blocked by 3 1/1's) or a band.

Where it gets goofy is when defenders have banding and there's trample damage... I think the rules are the same, but some people here would say the defender can assign all the damage to a creature and take none of it if you have a banding creature on defense... Unless they removed this **change** to trample rules in what I recall was around 5th Edition... trample damage has to be assigned to as many blocking creatures as it can before any remaining damage is computed.

I look at the interaction of Protection from X w/ Trample to argue - those rules state you can only assign (and therefore prevent) as much damage as the toughness of the blocking creature - any extra damage assigned will flow through to the defender. Similarly - you look at previous damage, so if you blocked w/ your Turtle, and I activated the witch on the turtle, I'd only have to assign 3 damage to the turtle and the rest (2) would go to you. If a black knight blocked my band, 2 points would be assigned to the knight (which would be reduced to zero), but the rest (3) would trample through.
 
R

Ransac

CPA Trash Man
Giant Tortoise blocks your banding party. (1 damage tramples through)

Unstable Flying Men goes through unblocked.

Each Ghoul will block a nomad.

I should be taking 4, my Tortoise becomes turtle stew, and your nomads die a huge death? This, in turn, makes my ghouls 9/9's

Ransac, cpa trash man
 
B

BigBlue

Guest
Updating The board

Done.

BigBlue: 14
Hand: 3
In Play:

(Ench) Unstable Mutation (Ench Creature get's +3/+3; At the beginning of it's controller's upkeep put a -1/-1 counter on it)

(T) Island x1
(UU) Plains x2
(T) Mountain x1
(TT) Swamp x2
(U) Forest x1

(T) Flying Men (3/3; Flying) (*Unstable)
(T) War Elephant (2/2; Banding; Trample)
(U) Cuombajj Witches (1/3; T: do 1 pt of Dmg to target creature or player, ~ does 1 pt of dmg to target creature or player of opponents choosing)
(T) Moorish Cavalry (3/3, Trample)
(T) Camel (0/1, Banding; prevent all damage from Desert to ~ as well as all creatures banded w/ ~)

(S) Merchant Ship (0/2; If this attacks and is not blocked, gain 2 life; Islandhome)
(S) Ali Baba (1/1; R: Tap target wall)
(S) Hasran Ogress (3/2; ~ does 2 dmg to me if I don't pay 2 when attacking with ~)

Graveyard: Sindbad, Metamorphosis, Rukh Egg, Desert Nomads, Desert Nomads
Removed from Game:
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Ransac: 10
Hand: 6
In Play:

(T) Island
(T) Swamp
(T) Plains
(T) Mountain
(TT) Forest

(T) Flying Men (1/1, flying)
(U) Khabal Ghoul (9/9, At end of turn, put a +1/+1 counter on Khabal Ghoul for each creature put into a graveyard from play this turn.) eight +1/+1 counters
(U) Khabal Ghoul (9/9, At end of turn, put a +1/+1 counter on Khabal Ghoul for each creature put into a graveyard from play this turn.) eight +1/+1 counters
(U) Nafs Asp (1/1, Whenever Nafs Asp deals damage to a player, that player loses 1 life at the beginning of his or her next draw step unless he or she pays 1 before that draw step.)
(T) Bird Maiden (1/2, flying)
(T) Bird Token (4/4, flying)

Graveyard: Metamorphosis, Rukh Egg, Wyluli Wolf, Desert Twister, Giant Tortoise
Removed from Game:
 
R

Ransac

CPA Trash Man
Untap, Upkeep, Oasis, Attack with my Rukh and my Flying Men. Responses?

BigBlue: 14/9?
Hand: 3
In Play:

(Ench) Unstable Mutation (Ench Creature get's +3/+3; At the beginning of it's controller's upkeep put a -1/-1 counter on it)

(T) Island x1
(UU) Plains x2
(T) Mountain x1
(TT) Swamp x2
(U) Forest x1

(T) Flying Men (3/3; Flying) (*Unstable)
(T) War Elephant (2/2; Banding; Trample)
(U) Cuombajj Witches (1/3; T: do 1 pt of Dmg to target creature or player, ~ does 1 pt of dmg to target creature or player of opponents choosing)
(T) Moorish Cavalry (3/3, Trample)
(T) Camel (0/1, Banding; prevent all damage from Desert to ~ as well as all creatures banded w/ ~)

(S) Merchant Ship (0/2; If this attacks and is not blocked, gain 2 life; Islandhome)
(S) Ali Baba (1/1; R: Tap target wall)
(S) Hasran Ogress (3/2; ~ does 2 dmg to me if I don't pay 2 when attacking with ~)

Graveyard: Sindbad, Metamorphosis, Rukh Egg, Desert Nomads, Desert Nomads
Removed from Game:
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Ransac: 10
Hand: 6
In Play:

(U) Island
(U) Swamp
(U) Plains
(U) Mountain
(UU) Forest
(U) Oasis (T: Prevent the next 1 damage that would be dealt to target creature this turn.)

(T) Flying Men (1/1, flying)
(U) Khabal Ghoul (9/9, At end of turn, put a +1/+1 counter on Khabal Ghoul for each creature put into a graveyard from play this turn.) eight +1/+1 counters
(U) Khabal Ghoul (9/9, At end of turn, put a +1/+1 counter on Khabal Ghoul for each creature put into a graveyard from play this turn.) eight +1/+1 counters
(U) Nafs Asp (1/1, Whenever Nafs Asp deals damage to a player, that player loses 1 life at the beginning of his or her next draw step unless he or she pays 1 before that draw step.)
(U) Bird Maiden (1/2, flying)
(T) Bird Token (4/4, flying)

Graveyard: Metamorphosis, Rukh Egg, Wyluli Wolf, Desert Twister, Giant Tortoise
Removed from Game:


Ransac, cpa trash man
 
B

BigBlue

Guest
I'll use the witches to kill the flying men in response to the oasis.

No response to the attack.

No blocks either (obviously).
 
R

Ransac

CPA Trash Man
That being the case, I shall tap the Oasis to prevent the 1 to my Flying Men AND have the extra point be dealt to you Camel. You take 5?

Ransac, cpa trash man
 
R

Ransac

CPA Trash Man
Erg Raiders. Done.

BigBlue: 9
Hand: 3
In Play:

(Ench) Unstable Mutation (Ench Creature get's +3/+3; At the beginning of it's controller's upkeep put a -1/-1 counter on it)

(T) Island x1
(UU) Plains x2
(T) Mountain x1
(TT) Swamp x2
(U) Forest x1

(T) Flying Men (3/3; Flying) (*Unstable)
(T) War Elephant (2/2; Banding; Trample)
(T) Cuombajj Witches (1/3; T: do 1 pt of Dmg to target creature or player, ~ does 1 pt of dmg to target creature or player of opponents choosing)
(T) Moorish Cavalry (3/3, Trample)
(S) Merchant Ship (0/2; If this attacks and is not blocked, gain 2 life; Islandhome)
(S) Ali Baba (1/1; R: Tap target wall)
(S) Hasran Ogress (3/2; ~ does 2 dmg to me if I don't pay 2 when attacking with ~)

Graveyard: Sindbad, Metamorphosis, Rukh Egg, Desert Nomads, Desert Nomads, Camel
Removed from Game:
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Ransac: 10
Hand: 4
In Play:

(U) Island
(T) Swamp
(U) Plains
(U) Mountain
(TU) Forest
(T) Oasis (T: Prevent the next 1 damage that would be dealt to target creature this turn.)

(T) Flying Men (1/1, flying)
(U) Khabal Ghoul (9/9, At end of turn, put a +1/+1 counter on Khabal Ghoul for each creature put into a graveyard from play this turn.) eight +1/+1 counters
(U) Khabal Ghoul (9/9, At end of turn, put a +1/+1 counter on Khabal Ghoul for each creature put into a graveyard from play this turn.) eight +1/+1 counters
(U) Nafs Asp (1/1, Whenever Nafs Asp deals damage to a player, that player loses 1 life at the beginning of his or her next draw step unless he or she pays 1 before that draw step.)
(U) Bird Maiden (1/2, flying)
(T) Bird Token (4/4, flying)
(S) Erg Raiders (2/3, At the end of your turn, if Erg Raiders didn't attack this turn, Erg Raiders deals 2 damage to you unless it came under your control this turn.)

Graveyard: Metamorphosis, Rukh Egg, Wyluli Wolf, Desert Twister, Giant Tortoise
Removed from Game:


Ransac, cpa trash man
 
B

BigBlue

Guest
Thats game....
piety and eye to eye arent gonna save me.... i accidentally attacked w/ the nomadds last round (I had been attacking all out independently... had I not it might have saved me..

Desert Twister got me.

On to Legends?

BigBlue: 9
Hand: 2
In Play:

(Ench) Unstable Mutation (Ench Creature get's +3/+3; At the beginning of it's controller's upkeep put a -1/-1 counter on it)

(T) Island x1
(UU) Plains x2
(T) Mountain x1
(TT) Swamp x2
(U) Forest x1

(T) Flying Men (3/3; Flying) (*Unstable)
(T) War Elephant (2/2; Banding; Trample)
(T) Cuombajj Witches (1/3; T: do 1 pt of Dmg to target creature or player, ~ does 1 pt of dmg to target creature or player of opponents choosing)
(T) Moorish Cavalry (3/3, Trample)
(S) Merchant Ship (0/2; If this attacks and is not blocked, gain 2 life; Islandhome)
(S) Ali Baba (1/1; R: Tap target wall)
(S) Hasran Ogress (3/2; ~ does 2 dmg to me if I don't pay 2 when attacking with ~)

Graveyard: Sindbad, Metamorphosis, Rukh Egg, Desert Nomads, Desert Nomads, Camel
Removed from Game:
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Ransac: 10
Hand: 4
In Play:

(U) Island
(T) Swamp
(U) Plains
(U) Mountain
(TU) Forest
(T) Oasis (T: Prevent the next 1 damage that would be dealt to target creature this turn.)

(T) Flying Men (1/1, flying)
(U) Khabal Ghoul (9/9, At end of turn, put a +1/+1 counter on Khabal Ghoul for each creature put into a graveyard from play this turn.) eight +1/+1 counters
(U) Khabal Ghoul (9/9, At end of turn, put a +1/+1 counter on Khabal Ghoul for each creature put into a graveyard from play this turn.) eight +1/+1 counters
(U) Nafs Asp (1/1, Whenever Nafs Asp deals damage to a player, that player loses 1 life at the beginning of his or her next draw step unless he or she pays 1 before that draw step.)
(U) Bird Maiden (1/2, flying)
(T) Bird Token (4/4, flying)
(S) Erg Raiders (2/3, At the end of your turn, if Erg Raiders didn't attack this turn, Erg Raiders deals 2 damage to you unless it came under your control this turn.)

Graveyard: Metamorphosis, Rukh Egg, Wyluli Wolf, Desert Twister, Giant Tortoise
Removed from Game:


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