Help me win packs. You know you want to.

H

Hetemti

Guest
22 hours until I go into my first T1 tournament. (Local level, but still...)

I need some SB advice, here's what I'm looking at...

LAND: 26
13 Island
4 Volcanic Island
4 Underground Sea
4 Mishra's Factory
R Strip Mine

NO: 15
4 Mana Leak
4 Counterspell
4 Force of Will
3 Forbid

SUPPRESSION: 11
4 Fire and Ice
3 Capsize
2 Pyroclasm
2 Nevinyrral's Disk

DRAW: 5
2 Impulse
R Fact or Fiction
R Stroke of Genius
R Ancestral Recall

CREATURE: 2
2 Morphling

???: 1
R Wheel of Fortune

Okay, the Wheel is kinda odd, but I thought it might make for a Poor Man's Timetwister, and I could even deck with it if all hell broke loose.

Impulse is questionable too...I like its effect, but I wonder if one mana is worth Branstorming instead.

Anyway, my sideboard and maindeck considerations are thus...(btw, the ' by a number means that's all I have.)

X Blue Elemental Blast
1' Energy Flux - I expect a lot of Mirrodin, and have seen one artifact deck that drops a full fist turn one and swings double-digit turn two. If I can stall it long enough to get this out, maybe it'll feel a tingle, since it rarely has more than a couple lands out, and often artifact lands.
X Brainstorm - Swap for Impulse or no?
X Shattering Pulse - Better than Energy Flux, assuming I have a Volc.
X Red Elemental Blast - Is it worth running in a mirror?
X Annul - Another way to hate Artifacts.
3' Ophidian - I hear they're cute.
1 Forbid - Would I ever want a fourth?
1 Capsize - Ditto.
R Mystical Tutor - Tutoring is fun, but I don't think I like the card disadvantage...
R Time Spiral - It does stuff.
1' Evacuation - I expect critters.
X Flood - Perhaps hordes of them.
R Demonic Tutor - Perhaps this cat should be maindeck...
1' Perish - Green is mean.
X Hibernation - I don't like Elves that get big.
X Wash Out - Not color specific, but 3U is a pretty penny, and it's Sorcery, too.
R Yawgmoth's Will - It does stuff.
1' Isochron Scepter - It also does stuff.
1' Oblivion Stone - I have no Powder Kegs, so perhaps a gimpy 3'rd Disk?
1' Chalice of the Void - People seem to think it's neat.
1' Urza's Bauble - The problem is if it's dark I can trip over it.
1' Flooded Strand - Summons a dual and thins.
2' Maze of Ith - Another nugget of suppression?
2' Psychatog - A way to use spent counterspells if I don't go with Will?

Anyway, I probably overlooked something good and obvious, but whatever. Comment away for my greater glory.
 

Spiderman

Administrator
Staff member
I'd put in the Flooded Strand.

Maybe more land kill, like Wasteland, since it's Type 1? You should have lots of targets... and since it's Type 1 and blue, maybe Arcane Laboratory?
 
T

Troll

Guest
Maybe try Propaganda in the SB for weenie swarms. I use Whispers of the Muse instead of Impulse because you can always not buy it back and it costs U.

It looks like a really tight deck. Good Luck.
 
T

train

Guest
If you can get a cunning wish, you need it...

soothsaying maybe?... for impulse, draw your choice, or ancestral knowledge...

MELTDOWN!!!...

It's key to killing artifacts....
 
H

Hetemti

Guest
:: I'd put in the Flooded Strand.
In.

:: Wasteland
I've none.

:: Arcane Laboratory
I have one, is that worth it? If so, MD or SB?

:: Maybe try Propaganda in the SB for weenie swarms.
It's now in the SB pile.

:: Whispers of the Muse
I have two, so that'd 1-to-1, however, I've never bought it back...when I hit six expendable mana, I'm usually working the Capsize.

:: Good Luck.
I'll likely need it. : )

:: If you can get a cunning wish, you need it...
I don't even know what it is.

:: soothsaying maybe?... for impulse, draw your choice, or ancestral knowledge...
I don't have Knowledges, and Soothsaying...if I really need to stack my deck, my deck should have different cards. That's why I'm not using Brainstorm already. Impuse really says, "Choose the best of your next four draw phases and take it now. Sacrifice the rest."
...what about a Prophetic Bolt? :D

:: MELTDOWN!!!...
It's key to killing artifacts....
Indeed...either that or Mox Monkey...
 
T

train

Guest
I don't know why this didn't hit me sooner...

Force Spikes!!!...

great for stopping the speed of type 1!!!...


;)
 

Spiderman

Administrator
Staff member
Arcane Lab should probably go in the SB. It's just good to stop those combo decks and stuff.

Cunning Wish costs 2U and allows you to get an instant from outside the game.
 
H

Hetemti

Guest
Here's what I have for the board right now...no changes to maindeck other than Flooded Strand over Island.

Hate Red
3 Blue Elemental Blast

Hate Combo
1 Arcane Lab

Hate Artifacts
2 Meltdown

Hate Green
2 Hibernation
1 Perish

Hate Mono
2 Wash Out

Tutor
R Demonic Tutor

Replay
R Yawgmoth's Will

Stick and Jar of No
1 Isochron Scepter
1 Chalice of the Void

If I Chalice for 3, I can't recall it with a boughtback Capsize since the buyback is a played replacement effect, not a change of casting cost to 4UU, correct?
 
1

13NoVa

Guest
Hmm i play type 1 regularly, and my suggestion, is, change it around a little bit. this is how i would do it...

(the cards in bold are, if you have them, use them, if not, then dont)

LAND and mana:
13 Island [9]
R sol ring
R lotus petal
R mox diamond

4 Volcanic Island
4 Underground Sea CUT COMPLETELY, NO NEED FOR BLACK
3 wasteland
1 Dustbowl

4 Mishra's Factory
R Strip Mine

NO:
2 arcane laboratory
4 Mana Leak
4 Counterspell
4 Force of Will
4 rewind

SUPPRESSION:
4 lightning bolt
1 Capsize
1 wash out
2 Nevinyrral's Disk

DRAW:
4 accumulated knowledge
R Fact or Fiction
R Stroke of Genius
R Ancestral Recall
R Mystical tutor
CREATURE: 4
2 Morphling
2 palenchron

????: 1
R wheel of fortune

----------------------------------

my choices...
island cut: allows for more Restricted goodness.
Mox diamond, Lotus petal, Sol ring: RESTRICTED GOODNESS. sol ring is awesome...
mystical tutor: why not? it allows you to find ancstral, an accumulated, your fact or fiction, your Stroke, or wheel...
wasteland: allows you to get rid of pesky nonbasic land, Glacial chasm is a problem where i am.
Dustbowl: if you get this in play, their nonbasic will go BOOM
Arcane lab: its blue. why not?
Rewind over forbiD: i just dont like forbid. rewind untaps your lands!
Lightning bolt: You'd be suprised how versitile it is. it can ping off Hippies, and it can ping opponents.
lowered capsize: since you can mystical tutor for it, why not?
Wash out: if you think creatures are gunna be a problem, why not mainboard one of these puppies?
palenchron: it is a beatstick, even without its combo. a 4/5 flyer that if i have mana is free if it hits the table... why not?
-------------

overall, a second lab, wouldnt be that hard to get ahold of. im sure you could get it....




you should check out my egg deck, its normally fast enough to get past laboratories. only problem is "black lotus + arcane lab" or "nul rod"
 
H

Hetemti

Guest
Thanks for the advice...I can't do any of Nova's suggestions because I'm out the door in 80 seconds but if I crash and burn (which I will) I'll probably shift toward that design.
 
N

Nightstalkers

Guest
Here's a tip from a master of T1 strategy:

Once everyone gets to that point where they've got intricate strategies which take a while to build up use this deck:

Land
18x Swamp
1x Cabal Coffers
1x Quicksand

Creatures
4x Fog of Gnats
4x Dauthi Mercenary
4x Dauthi Horror
4x Dauthi Slayer
3x Dauthi Marauder

Spells
1x Oubliette
4x Diabolic Edict
1x Infernal Harvest
4x Dark Ritual
4x Drain Life
3x Unholy Strength
2x Sinister Strength
1x Hatred
1x Mutilate

Sideboard
4x Terror
2x Tsabo's Decree
2x Perish
2x Deathgrip

Or the original recipe:

Land
18x Swamp
1x Cabal Coffers
1x Quicksand

Creatures
1x Junun Efreet
1x Uncle Istivan
1x Sanguine Guard
1x Fog of Gnats
4x Erg Raiders
4x Dauthi Horror
4x Dauthi Slayer
3x Dauthi Marauder

Spells
1x Oubliette
4x Diabolic Edict
3x Infernal Harvest
4x Dark Ritual
4x Drain Life
3x Unholy Strength
2x Sinister Strength
 
H

Hetemti

Guest
Round 1: Reanimating Akroma and other fat.
Bent over the pickle barrel first game, then said a lot of No the next two.
1-0

Round 2: Negator
Ritual, Negator, Force of Will. Once more, with feeling.
2-0

Round 3: Bye
I tapped two Dollars and cast Wendy's Biggie Fries, then sacrificed them to Gaping Maw of Hetemti.
3-0

Round 4: Mirror
There is one fundamental difference between our decks...I don't own Wastelands to eat his Factories. Rolled.
3-1

4th place, three packs...if they ever get delivered.

It wasn't worth the mental trauma of playing blue. : /
 
T

train

Guest
Single elimination huh?...

Are you now looking for wastelands?...

Diabolic Edict
Dark banishing
Lightning bolt in place of the fire/ice - I just don't see it helping you much here...
Hymn to tourach

maybe tormod's crypts are a good sideboard card, or planar void...

just some thoughts...

you did win some packs though...:D :cool:

Here's some more thoughts on your sideboard:
3 Chill
1 Arcane Lab
1 Meltdown
3 Perish
3 Pillages
R Demonic Tutor
1 Isochron Scepter
1 Chalice of the Void
1 Propaganda

Soldevi Excavations might be another great card to look into...

And if you can pick up Haunting echoes - 1 main and 1 sideboard would work nicely...

I also think the demonic tutor should be main, as it helps you find a specific answer, where-in the drawing allows you to hope you find it...
 
1

13NoVa

Guest
omg that didnt seem like a BIG TIME type one tourny to me.

where is Gay Phish, Sligh, Ophid, Stax, Keeper?



You should go sligh. you will win a LOT of packs!
 
H

Hetemti

Guest
] omg that didnt seem like a BIG TIME type one tourny to me.
] 22 hours until I go into my first T1 tournament. (Local level, but still...)

I'm a stupid person, but I'm not about to slit my wrists and jump into the shark tank.

] Lightning bolt in place of the fire/ice - I just don't see it helping you much here...
I only had one so I kept it in the board, but I had a perverse desire to get it on Isochron. A standing Scroll/Icy-Jayemdae would have been cute.

] Single elimination huh?...
More like shuffing paper with names on it and keeping track of game/match results. ^^

] Are you now looking for wastelands?...
I wouldn't mind picking them up.

] Meltdown
The guy with the annoying affinity deck had to leave after round one to visit home for the weekend, so all the artifact hate was superfluous.

] where is Gay Phish, Sligh, Ophid, Stax, Keeper?
Thankfully, not in any of the club's current player's deckboxes. But the club is getting big fast, and will surely topple by the end of the year as the Sharks slowly filter in and gobble up the beginners.
 
N

Nightstalkers

Guest
I personally enjoy beginners. Give'em a real deck, and let them play, and you'll be amazed on all the rulings they break.
 
1

13NoVa

Guest
hey the Egg deck is fairly decent even in Metagame type 1. the only thing that hurt it were counterring the helms and/or nul rod or chalise OTV



check out my "the EGG DECK!" topic in decks. the expensive stuff is:

1 sol ring
1 mana vault
(those are easy to obtain)
1 yawgmoths WHY DID THEY PRINT THIS
1 yawgmoths WHO WANTS TO DRAW 19 CARDS?
3 tainted pact
1 vamp tutor
1 demonic tutor
4 bloodstained mire
4 polluted delta


Relitively cheap, other then the Tutors and fetchs. the Will might cost a little more
 
H

Hetemti

Guest
1 sol ring <-- Have a dozen
1 mana vault <-- 2
1 yawgmoths WHY DID THEY PRINT THIS <-- 1
1 yawgmoths WHO WANTS TO DRAW 19 CARDS? <-- 0 :(
3 tainted pact <-- What is that?
1 vamp tutor <-- First booster I bought.
1 demonic tutor <-- 3
4 bloodstained mire <-- The tutor-lands? I think I've a W/U one.
4 polluted delta
 
Top