Gurzigost Oath

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Tabasco

Guest
This deck is G/U/w

I need some opinions on the deck

Mana: 22

4 Yavimaya Coast
4 Adarkar Wastes
4 Treetop Village
4 Island
2 Rifstone Portal
2 Reflecting Pool
2 Forest

Main Junk: 8

4 Oath of Druids
4 Sterling Grove

What the Oath fetches: 3

2 Gurzigost
1 Terravore

Counter Back-up/Draw: 17

4 Deep Analysis
4 Circular Logic
4 Mana Leak
4 Brainstorm
1 Fact or Fiction

Utility: 10

2 Reclaim
2 Krosan Reclamation
2 Creeping Mold
4 Naturalize

No SB as of yet

Thanks for your input
 
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Homestar

Guest
why do u fetch terravore?!?!?! i dont get how you give him any p/t at all in that deck
 
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Tabasco

Guest
Ok there are only three creatures in the deck.

The oath fetches the Terravore and he gets P/T for each land I pass when oathing.
 
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Homestar

Guest
Oh!!!! OMG IM SO STUPID. Sorry if that came off wrong tabasco, i just dont think sometimes. sorry. i think good creatures would be like tornade elemental and plated slagwurm. the ones you have are great but i would keep the ones u have and add what i said in. but, ya kno, me bieng a hugantic, ginormic noob, this is probably a suggestion you stick in a bottle and throw out to sea. but, i always like throwin in my 2 cents (if thats how the expression goes).

-Edit-

heh, you probably wanted Train or someone to come in here and give some actual CONSTRUCTIVE suggestions, but, you got me.
 
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Tabasco

Guest
all suggestions are welcome

I just wanted a second opinion that's all
 

Oversoul

The Tentacled One
The thing about Oath decks is that you don't want to use too many creatures, because you rarely want to draw creatures. They're dead weight unless they're small enough to cast. That's why Treetop Village is so good. It doesn't count as a creature. I am not exactly sure how this deck runs, but I've seen other builds and some of them do pretty well...

I am not sure about Terravore. He could be really big, but what you're probably hoping for is a Gurzigost. You might Oath, and then end up with a Terravore after five cards, and not all of those cards are going to be lands. I mean, that's pretty extreme, but it just doesn't seem worth it. Gurzigost is much more forgiving if it's near the top, because it doesn't need that many cards before it kills them generally and it can eat from your hand with a little mana...

I would definitely use Swords to Plowshares. It is fertilizer if you're up against a creatureless deck or a deck that chooses not to drop creatures, but so is Oath, and you can afford one other card like that, although Oath doesn't like facing some creatureless decks...

Most Oath decks (non-turbo, that is) use a rather impressive countermagic base, the reason being that you need to stay alive until you Oath, or have an edge if you don't. Treetop Villages and hardcasting Gurzigost would be the alternate kill here (and that is why using something like Plated Slagwurm, Tornado Elemental, etc. is usually not so great--it has to be Oathed up because hardcasting it would be absurd). But anyway, I just don't think this deck is disruptive enough.

Now why Reclaim instead of Regrowth? On a less important note, while running white, I would consider Seal of Cleansing over Naturalize, but it probably doesn't matter, and Naturalize might be better in this deck anyway...

I am not sure about the Groves either, but I've never seen them in action...

Terravore is probably good in one of two situations.
1. You are able to Oath and you dump nearly half of your deck's lands into the graveyard (nine or so should do it, and that's almost half of twenty-two).
2. It is sitting in your hand and Fluctuator chooses to go off, but has to wait a turn for the kill. Okay, so any situation in which your opponent does the work for you really...

Instead, I would consider simply using that slot on a noncreature or using one of the self-sacrificing creatures the old Oath decks liked (since if frees you to Oath up something else).

I've suggested a lot here, and some of it is probably wrong, but I think the most important thing is the disruption. Your countermagic base is kind of tiny, and you need to be able to protect your Oath, your creatures, and yourself...
 
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Tabasco

Guest
Well, some of my choices are a little weird as they may seem.

Krosan Reclam. => Gets my Terravore/other spell I need back with it's flashback.

Deep Analysis => Flashback drawing power

The Sterling Groves act more or less as a protection/ tutor for the Oath. Essentially giving me 8 oaths.

The Counterspells here are kinda weak. Mana Leak isn't bad, but Circular Logic costs 2U. I put it in because of its synergy with the oath.

Reclaim is overkill with the Krosan Reclams. They are kinda just filler right now

I also need a diffeerent draw other than brainstorm.....right now I'm thinking that I might use careful study.....It draws one less, but helps me ditch stuff not wanted in my hand......rifstone portal....and if I need the cheaper drawing, Deep Analysis.

BTW: If anyone would like to donate me 4 Careful studies, plz PM me 'cause I'm fresh out
 
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train

Guest
Maybe a krosan cloudscraper?... cheap to keep out...

heck - akroma or some other fat hasted creature would work...

darksteel colossus... phatness...

you could even run serra avatars...

;)
 
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train

Guest
you shouldn't be hard-casting... It's Oath...

and you can always run utility to get the Oaths back...
 
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