For your approval (and suggestions), the tentative build of the Ravnica madness that's been going through my head: -Bursting with Sappy Goodness- Saproling burst 3 Parallax wave 2 Doubling season 3 Glare of subdual 2 Perilous forays 2 Enchantress' pressence 2 Heartbeat of Spring 3 Priviledged Position 2 Twilight drover 3 Argothian Enchantress 3 Nullmage Shepherd 2 Dowsing Shaman 2 Selesnya Guildmage 2 Birds of Paradise 4 Replenish 2 Temple Garden 2 Selesnya Sanctuary 2 Vitu Ghazi the City Tree 2 Forest 10 Plains 7 The basic ideal play-by turn is to play birds 1st turn, then the enchantress second and third will be a hearbeat of spring. From there just try to play the combo pieces of the drover, saproling burst and doubling season. A doubling season with saproling burst could put 28 counters on the drover in a turn. The dowsing shaman recurs the enchantments over and over and the nullmage is used to deal with pesky enchantments and artifacts like suppression field...my bane should I go up against a convoke deck or similar. The deck's rather vulnerable in many respects. Can function well enough with the synergy of drovers and saproling bursts. I'm thinking that the 5 card slots occupied by enchantress and her enchantments may be sacked for something else. I mostly want some sort of card-drawing for the deck though. I've also considered Fecundity with the perilous forays and some other sort of sacrifice-to effect. Altar of Dimentia's basically banned in our playgroup...but this deck could probably mill players rather nastily. Or I suppose something to deal direct damage if all else fails like sacrificing to a phyrexian altar and blasting with a brigthflame or some other such nonesense (fireball, disintigrate, ghitu fire). Pandemonium would just be wrong. Though I would need to get them, I could forgo the enchantresses and use sterling groves for more focus in retrieving combo pieces. The shepherd may be substituted for something else, but I like her when facing other combo-decks. Tranquility still ruins my day unless Dowsing Shaman can stay out as does just about any mass removal spell. Though replenish can help with that. I may want to sport regrowth/recollect. Armageddon's just not fun playing against...if you do armageddon, please destroy us quickly so we can play again. Strong control decks and aggro/control probably own me. Pernicious deed and the rock hurt as well...and a friend of ours is playing a dark-fires deck that does works similarly. Basically there are several ways to win. Pass through opponnent defenses using glare/parallax wave to deliver the ouch from big drovers/saproling bursts/guildmage swarms. The next would be to flap over with spirits from the drover should there be a lot of untargetable type creatures. I have a clunky, junky version of the deck right now I'm running for fun. Fading was so good then and doubling season makes it just plaing mean. Last question, should I try to fit a Loxodon Hierarch? Well, look forward to comments.