Embargo type of thing

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Griffith_se

Guest
Just some dumb idea I just had. I guess You can tell it's a sad attempt at trying to abuse "Embargo"
Any ideas?
I guess "Rising Waters" would probably work pretty good?
Maybe "Jolting Merfolk" just for the tap counters instead of "Malicious Advice" and/or "Tidal Surge"?

" Embargo "
- Non-Tap Creatures 16 -
4 Steadfast Guard
4 Skyshroud Falcon
4 Diving Griffin
4 Serra Angel

- Unhappy Disruption Stuff 10 -
4 Embargo
4 Malicious Advice
2 Tidal Surge

- Counters 8 -
2 Force Spike
2 Counterspell
4 Absorb

- Save Me from Myself! 4 -
4 Worship

- Land 24 -
4 Underground River
4 Adarkar Wastes
4 Dromar's Cavern
6 Plains
6 Island
 
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Griffith_se

Guest
Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, so... I have to ask, why?
 
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rkoelsch

Guest
It is because embargo causes life lost instead of damage. What you need is some life gaining effects.
 
S

Spiderman

Administrator
Staff member
Embargo causes a loss of life, which Worship doesn't stop. Worship only affects damage (it's a fine distinction, but there nontheless).

[Edit - dang it rkoelsch! You posted right when I was answering...]
 
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Griffith_se

Guest
Gotcha. Maybe "Noble Purpose" "Renounce" "Soothing Balm" "Well of Life" "Spirit Link"?

" Embargo "
- Non-Tap Creatures 16 -
4 Steadfast Guard
4 Skyshroud Falcon
4 Diving Griffin
4 Serra Angel

- Unhappy Disruption Stuff 8 -
4 Embargo
2 Malicious Advice
2 Tidal Surge

- Counters 4 -
2 Force Spike
2 Counterspell

- Multi-Use Gold spells 4 -
4 Absorb
2 Dromar's Charm

- A little life gain 4 -
4 Soothing Balm

- Land 24 -
4 Underground River
4 Adarkar Wastes
4 Dromar's Cavern
6 Plains
6 Island
 
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rkoelsch

Guest
reviving vapors and dromars charm and spirit link


Edit- some people are just lucky I guess. Though your explanation is more grammatically correct.
 
G

Griffith_se

Guest
Oops, You must have been posting while I was editing.

I thought of Dromar's Charm also.
What do You think of the others that I listed?
Which do You think would be best?
 
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rkoelsch

Guest
but I don't like having all your lands tapped at EOT for Well of Life. None of your counters have ACC so you are effectively giving him a turn to cast what he wants. I also think that spirit link would cause card disadvantage.
 
G

Griffith_se

Guest
Updated ver.2.01

" Embargo "
- Non-Tap Creatures 16 -
4 Steadfast Guard
4 Skyshroud Falcon
4 Diving Griffin
4 Serra Angel

- Unhappy Disruption Stuff 8 -
4 Embargo
2 Malicious Advice
2 Tidal Surge

- Counters 4 -
2 Force Spike
2 Counterspell

- Multi-Use Gold spells 4 -
4 Absorb
2 Dromar's Charm

- A little life gain 4 -
4 Soothing Balm

- Land 24 -
4 Underground River
4 Adarkar Wastes
4 Dromar's Cavern
6 Plains
6 Island
 
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rkoelsch

Guest
I think instead of Steadfast Guard I would use Ardent Soldier. You have a lot of creatures with WW in the casting cost. I think that Riptide Crab would also be a possiblity
 
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Griffith_se

Guest
That's funny I had both of those in there originally.
I think My logic was that Steadfast Guard was more powerful, but I see Your point.
I think I prefer Ardent Soldier over Riptide Crab because of the kicker.
The Diving Griffin Might be hard, but I'd still like to keep it.
Maybe a couple of Remote Farms, or some Coastal Towers?
 
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rkoelsch

Guest
I don't know about coastal towers. You already have 12 nonbasic lands. I think it is time for some play testing to see how the mana works. I like the diving griffins too. Evasion is always a good thing.
 
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Griffith_se

Guest
OK, I'll try this version.
Didn't You say once before that You play Apprentice.
Maybe You could help Me test it and see if it works at all.

" Embargo "
- Non-Tap Creatures 16 -
4 Ardent Soldier
4 Skyshroud Falcon
4 Diving Griffin
4 Serra Angel

- Unhappy Disruption Stuff 8 -
4 Embargo
2 Malicious Advice
2 Tidal Surge

- Counters 4 -
2 Force Spike
2 Counterspell

- Multi-Use Gold spells 4 -
4 Absorb
2 Dromar's Charm

- A little life gain 4 -
4 Soothing Balm


- Land 24 -
2 Underground River
4 Adarkar Wastes
4 Dromar's Cavern
6 Plains
8 Island
 
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rkoelsch

Guest
I can't get past the firewall at work but I get off at 4pm EST. I am willing to try then. I have to get my computer at home back on line. We were doing some remodeling. Maybe Spidey could help test.

PS could you take a look at my deck?
 
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Griffith_se

Guest
Spidy has a pretty tight schedule.
It'd be nice to have another person for Me to play.
I tried to play Gizmo once, but I was to slow.
Just as well, He probably would've just chewed Me up and spit Me out anyway. He's way to competitive (I imagine) to waste time playing rogue junk that I cook up Myself. (If you see this, I mean that in a good way :) )

Anyone else hang out on #Apprentice? If so what nick do You use (mine- Griffy)? I usually log in 2 or 3 times a week for an hour or 2 mostly in the afternoon.
 
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rkoelsch

Guest
I will probably put my computer room back together this weekend.
 
S

Spiderman

Administrator
Staff member
Actually, I might be able to play today if we can start around 4:15 EST at the latest for about an hour. But yeah, my schedule 's pretty tight usually... but in the fall, I should be able to play at night more often 'cause my wife will be taking classes.
 
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Istanbul

Guest
I'm sorry, I just can't see this deck working. Stasis worked because it paralyzed your opponent by locking *everything* down, including their lands. There's no card currently in Type II that has the same effect. Tangle Wire is *vaguely* suitable, but not really.
 
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Griffith_se

Guest
Yeah, I'm not even trying to kid Myself here.
I just can't resist the urge to play with unusual cards.
Just trying to make it the best I can, Sticking with the theme.
Do You have a different take on it?
 
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