Dawn of the Dead

Spiderman

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Anyone else watch this movie? I keep seeing it on cable and getting sucked in at different parts, so I finally taped it and watched the whole thing.

Questions:

1) So was the "virus" or whatever worldwide? It didn't start in one particular spot? The opening montage of credit screens and whatnot seemed to imply it was worldwide.

2) Where did it come from? Mutation?

3) How did the little girl get it in the beginning? Presumably she was inside the house, so was it a breakin? With no alarms? And the master bedroom door was open, so why didn't whoever get the girl just get the parents?

4) The ending montage, I take it they didn't survive? Or a set up for a possible sequel?

Yeah, I thought about this too much :D
 

Ransac

CPA Trash Man
I've seen it. Here's what I've gathered.


1) So was the "virus" or whatever worldwide? It didn't start in one particular spot?

There is no explanation as to why this has occured. A theory was mentioned in the movie (early on when the television reports are going) that Hell has become full and rather than accept new souls, they return them to earth. "When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the Earth" was the tagline of the original 1978 movie.


2) Where did it come from? Mutation?

Read answer 1.


3) How did the little girl get it in the beginning? Presumably she was inside the house, so was it a breakin? With no alarms? And the master bedroom door was open, so why didn't whoever get the girl just get the parents?

Presumably, she had be bitten or killed by one of the other zombies already. Also, it looked like an upper-middle class neighborhood, which implies secure community. You can get away without locking the doors.


4) The ending montage, I take it they didn't survive? Or a set up for a possible sequel?

There're mumblings about a possible sequel involving the survivors, but nothing has been settled about it yet.




That'll be $20


Ransac, cpa trash man
 

Mooseman

Isengar Tussle
I was filmed at the Monroeville Mall, outside of Pittsburgh (I worked there at the time and saw it being filmed)

I always thought the premise was that hell was closed and the damned had to stay on earth as zombies..... but what do I know.
 

Spiderman

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3) Yeah, I know she had to be bitten or infected by another, but if she was inside, how come the parents didn't get infected?

So hell was closed? How come simple bullets kill them a second time? Wouldn't they just keep getting up and going?
 

Mooseman

Isengar Tussle
It's a zombie movie, does it have to all make sense?

Actually, they had to die 1st and then become zombies, but they can be stopped by destroying the brain.... or something like that.....

I think if you watch Night of the Living Dead it may explain more since it's the first film in the "series".....

Hey, this is one of the few films where the black guy lives and all the others die....

Don't forget the forgetable next in the series "Day of the Dead", a truly bad horror film...


Are you talking about the Dawn of the Dead remake? Or the one made in the 1970's?
 

Spiderman

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I know it doesn't have to make sense, but it's been bugging me :)

Well, one black guy survived... the other went loony...

I'll check out Day of the Dead. What I want to see is that one that recently came out in the past month or so, the Dead in the Plane or whatever.

I'm talking about the remake, the one with Vhing Rhames.
 

turgy22

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Spiderman said:
Anyone else watch this movie? I keep seeing it on cable and getting sucked in at different parts, so I finally taped it and watched the whole thing.
Sort of funny story: I saw it when it came out in the theater. My mom wanted to see the Passion of the Christ, so we compromised and went to both movies on the same day. Talk about an odd pairing, but both movies are about death and resurrection.

1) So was the "virus" or whatever worldwide? It didn't start in one particular spot? The opening montage of credit screens and whatnot seemed to imply it was worldwide.

2) Where did it come from? Mutation?
Nobody really knows and it's never really explained (unlike movies like Resident Evil or Reanimator). I think George Romero, the creator wanted it this way. It's very focused on the characters and their struggle for survival in a zombie-infested world. No one has time to think about how it started or how far it spreads. I'd speculate that it originates from some sort of virus. It makes the most sense. The tagline about hell being full is just that - a tagline. It's supposed to help sell the movie.

3) How did the little girl get it in the beginning? Presumably she was inside the house, so was it a breakin? With no alarms? And the master bedroom door was open, so why didn't whoever get the girl just get the parents?

3) Yeah, I know she had to be bitten or infected by another, but if she was inside, how come the parents didn't get infected?
The little girl was their neighbor, not their daughter. I think that's where your confusion lies.

4) The ending montage, I take it they didn't survive? Or a set up for a possible sequel?
The sequel's already been made twice (as all the movies have been). As Mooseman said, it's called "Day of the Dead" and the new one is pretty awful (I never saw the original). Basically, the whole world is infested with zombies, but normal people set up little fortified outposts here and there and basically have to slog through all the zombies to get the supplies and stuff they need to survive. Basically, life goes on in the zombie world. I didn't sit through the whole thing, but I think the premise was that the zombies were evolving and getting smarter and the normal tricks to evade them weren't working.

I hope that clears up all your questions and doubts. I concur with MM that you should really go back and watch the original Night of the Living Dead from the 70's. But if you're looking for a really terrible zombie movie to watch, check out House of the Dead, directed by Uwe Boll, who twice won Razzie awards for Worst Director, although not for House of the Dead. I seriously laughed through the whole movie, especially the fight scenes where they spliced in scenes from the video game into the movie. It was hilarious, but you might have to be drunk to appreciate it.

Spiderman said:
I'll check out Day of the Dead. What I want to see is that one that recently came out in the past month or so, the Dead in the Plane or whatever.
Flight of the Living Dead.
 

Spiderman

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Ah, their neighbor...

I'll check it out the sequels. For some reason, these movies make me crack up, unlike "real" horror movies like Children of the Corn or something.

And yeah, Flight of the Living Dead. So obvious :rolleyes:
 
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orgg

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HAHAHA!

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(until they get it fixed, or Christmas Holidays come up next Wednesday)


As for the Night of the Living Dead varients, I'd HIGHLY recommend Feast (starring Henry Rollins). I just got to see it, and it is a treat-- good laughs and gallons of gore.

Also, if you havn't seen it, Evil Dead 2: Dead By Dawn. It's not actually a Zombie film, more of "Candarian Demons posess the living after injuring them," but the Evil Deadites perpetrate like zombies. Get attacked and hurt, eventually turn Demonic.

I have no higher praise for any movie than I do Evil Dead 2. If you even LIKE horror movies, you MUST SEE IT.
 

Spiderman

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Hey, that reminds me...

I saw another Zombie movie where the ending was they got sucked up into the sky by aliens and they caused it to "rain" on them, curing them, except one dude who flew an airplane and missed getting cured, so he re-infected everyone. Which one was that?
 

Mooseman

Isengar Tussle
Wow, B-movie mania... and Horror too..... My Daughter would know this, she loves bad horror movies......
 

Oversoul

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We are talking about the Romero zombie movies, right? There are some posts I haven't sifted through in this thread, so I'm not sure. There are so many spinoffs, unofficial sequels, parodies, movies with the same name, etc. It's hard to tell sometimes...

Anyway, in the first movie (Night of the Living Dead), there's a lot of business with people on the television speculating that these creatures have something to do with a strange meteorite that appeared around the same time.

In Dawn of the Dead, there is some speculation about viruses and other stuff. It is noted that the creatures are not cannibals because they do not eat each other and only prey on regular humans. There's also the "When hell is full" line.

In Day of the Dead, it is well-established that a virus is a causal agent. No mention is made of the meteorite or if that connection turned out to be even partially right. It is known that if a limb is bitten and subsequently severed within a short period of time, the infection cannot spread to the rest of the body, but otherwise there is no treatment once a bite occurs. This is, from what I can recall, the most interesting movie of the series.

I haven't seen Land of the Dead, so I don't know if any new insights are presented there.

Is it from a mutation? Well, there's no mention of that, so probably not.

How did the little girl get it? I forget the details of that scene. However, in Night of the Living Dead, there are some characters that seem to have become zombies without having been bitten or anything. It seems to happen to anyone who dies of any causes. In the later movies, the zombies have been a presence for years, so people who die tend to die from attacks and were bitten anyway. If it's still possible to contract the infection or whatever without having been bitten, the girl may have gotten it that way. I have a friend who has watched this movie several times (and he's also a huge fan of Evil Dead 2, which I noticed Orgg recommending) and may be able to answer this question. I'll ask him if I remember...

Edit: My friend pointed out that this is referring to the remake, which he has also seen, although I have not (some people watch too many cheesy movies...). Anyway, he said the idea that people could die of natural causes and still become zombies didn't really continue into the rest of the series. As for the girl (who wasn't in the 70's movie I was thinking of), he thought her parents probably infected her and then she wandered off. Not sure if that makes sense or not...

Did they survive? Well, for how long? In Day of the Dead (not really a spoiler unless you don't want to know anything about the movie whatsoever), the zombies have already won and the story takes place in a giant underground military fortress deal where researchers and soldiers and such are still working even after they lost contact with the outside world. It would be highly unlikely that the surviving characters from Dawn of the Dead made it through all that, but maybe they're hiding on a remote mountaintop somewhere or something. Who knows? Edit: This applies to the original Dawn of the Dead. And I now remember that it didn't end in a montage, so the endings are probably completely different...
 

Spiderman

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Well, the only real shot of the little girl in the remake shows her face and mouth all smeared with blood, so presumably she had already killed/infected others. No real shots that I remember showed a death wound on her, but then, they didn't really show a full body shot clearly, just her being thrown backwards by the woman to get the girl off the husband.

So in later movies, it's pretty much established that there's no cure and the regular humans just have to survive amid the remaining zombies? Pretty bleak...
 
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orgg

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I saw Evil Dead 1 and 2 at Wal*Fart for $4 each. I saw them go into my hand, and go through the checkout.

Mize.
 
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