CPA Build-a-Deck III: Ajani Goldmane

Discussion in 'General CPA Stuff' started by BigBlue, Oct 3, 2008.

  1. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    Here's another way to use Ajani's gain life ability and persist
    Cradle of Vitality. But I think we need more persist creatures to go along with the latest cards...


    4x Ajani Goldmane

    2x Soul Warden
    3x Savannah Lions
    2x White Knight
    2x Angel of Despair
    2x Desolation Angel
    2x Exalted Angel
    1x Necroskitter

    4x Vindicate
    2x Swords to Plowshares
    2x Disenchant
    1x Glorious Anthem
    1x Ghost Council of Orzhova
    1x Puppeteer clique
    2x Oblivion Ring
    2x Healing Salve
    1x Cauldron Haze
    1x Cauldron of souls
    1x Well of Lost Dreams
    1x Cradle of Vitality

    Creatures: 16
    Non-Creature Cards: 19
    Lands: 0

    Total: 35
  2. Shabbaman insert avatar here

    You're right, more persist would be great. There aren't that many good white persisters though. There are more in black. Does the deck want more black? We could up the cauldron cards for persist and just add 187's/sacrificers or just a bunch of good creatures.

    I'm adding a Wrath of God, that works great with persist. And with planeswalkers, obviously.

    4x Ajani Goldmane

    2x Soul Warden
    3x Savannah Lions
    2x White Knight
    2x Angel of Despair
    2x Desolation Angel
    2x Exalted Angel
    1x Necroskitter

    4x Vindicate
    2x Swords to Plowshares
    2x Disenchant
    1x Glorious Anthem
    1x Wrath of God
    1x Ghost Council of Orzhova
    1x Puppeteer clique
    2x Oblivion Ring
    2x Healing Salve
    1x Cauldron Haze
    1x Cauldron of souls
    1x Well of Lost Dreams
    1x Cradle of Vitality

    Creatures: 16
    Non-Creature Cards: 20
    Lands: 0

    Total: 36

    With 24 lands, this deck is done. Some comments:

    -we have some weenies and a bunch of high costed "angels", that doesn't curve well
    -do we have enough critters for Glorious anthem?
    -I'd rather have a creature in place of the Healing salve. Isn't there a creature with a similar effect? Same goes for disenchant. Vindicate sliver instead of Vindicate, for instance. It might cost more, but the deck would become more synergistic.
  3. Spiderman CPA Man in Tights, Dopey Administrative Assistant

    Probably, but I don't know enough about it. I say play with the current version and then if it doesn't work, sub in some cards and play again :)
  4. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    If you want more creature abilities, these may be good.

    Capashen Unicorn
    1W
    1/2
    1W, T, Sacrifice Capashen Unicorn: Destroy target artifact or enchantment.

    Devout Witness Creature - Spellshaper [2/2] 2W
    1W, tap, Discard a card from your hand: Destroy target artifact or enchantment.

    Deathbringer
    Liege Creature - Horror [3/4] W/B W/B W/B 2
    Other white creatures you control get +1/+1.
    Other black creatures you control get +1/+1.
    Whenever you play a white spell, you may tap target creature.
    Whenever you play a black spell, you may destroy target creature if it's tapped.

    Magus of the Disk Creature - Human Wizard [2/4] 2WW
    Magus of the Disk comes into play tapped.
    1, T: Destroy all artifacts, creatures, and enchantments.
  5. BigBlue Magic Jones

    Since this is going in a different direction than Armageddon... I'll take out the Desolation Angel in favor of the Liege who better fits - and is a tad cheaper since you won't need kicker and is better priced w/ hybrid mana.

    4x Ajani Goldmane

    2x Soul Warden
    3x Savannah Lions
    2x White Knight
    2x Angel of Despair
    2x Deathbringer Liege
    2x Exalted Angel
    1x Necroskitter

    4x Vindicate
    2x Swords to Plowshares
    2x Disenchant
    1x Glorious Anthem
    1x Wrath of God
    1x Ghost Council of Orzhova
    1x Puppeteer clique
    2x Oblivion Ring
    2x Healing Salve
    1x Cauldron Haze
    1x Cauldron of souls
    1x Well of Lost Dreams
    1x Cradle of Vitality

    Creatures: 16
    Non-Creature Cards: 20
    Lands: 0

    Total: 36

    With 24 lands, this deck is done. Some comments:

    -we have some weenies and a bunch of high costed "angels", that doesn't curve well
    -do we have enough critters for Glorious anthem?
    -I'd rather have a creature in place of the Healing salve. Isn't there a creature with a similar effect? Same goes for disenchant. Vindicate sliver instead of Vindicate, for instance. It might cost more, but the deck would become more synergistic.
  6. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    I'll tade the Anthem for another Skitter

    4x Ajani Goldmane

    2x Soul Warden
    3x Savannah Lions
    2x White Knight
    2x Angel of Despair
    2x Deathbringer Liege
    2x Exalted Angel
    2x Necroskitter

    4x Vindicate
    2x Swords to Plowshares
    2x Disenchant
    1x Wrath of God
    1x Ghost Council of Orzhova
    1x Puppeteer clique
    2x Oblivion Ring
    2x Healing Salve
    1x Cauldron Haze
    1x Cauldron of souls
    1x Well of Lost Dreams
    1x Cradle of Vitality

    Creatures: 17
    Non-Creature Cards: 19
    Lands: 0

    Total: 36

    With 24 lands, this deck is done. Some comments:

    -we have some weenies and a bunch of high costed "angels", that doesn't curve well
    -I'd rather have a creature in place of the Healing salve. Isn't there a creature with a similar effect? Same goes for disenchant. Vindicate sliver instead of Vindicate, for instance. It might cost more, but the deck would become more synergistic.
    Aurora Eidolon
    Aven Redeemer
    Dawnfluke (3W gets both or W just for the salve)
    Hallowed Healer (2W or a 1/1?)
    Master Healer (5cc, but it's a 1/4)
  7. Shabbaman insert avatar here

    Interesting. Deathbringer liege is definately strong. The white part sucks, the Royal assassin part is great. But it's unreliable unless you play multicolored spells yourself, or plan to play two spells per turn. Anyway, I'm replacing the two disenchants for two Mortifies. I'd rather take out the Healing salves though, but those are there with a very specific purpose ;)

    4x Ajani Goldmane

    2x Soul Warden
    3x Savannah Lions
    2x White Knight
    2x Angel of Despair
    2x Deathbringer Liege
    2x Exalted Angel
    2x Necroskitter

    4x Vindicate
    2x Mortify
    2x Disenchant
    1x Wrath of God
    1x Ghost Council of Orzhova
    1x Puppeteer clique
    2x Oblivion Ring
    2x Healing Salve
    1x Cauldron Haze
    1x Cauldron of souls
    1x Well of Lost Dreams
    1x Cradle of Vitality

    Creatures: 17
    Non-Creature Cards: 19
    Lands: 0

    Total: 36

    With 24 lands, this deck is done.
  8. BigBlue Magic Jones

    How about we replace disenchant w/ Necrotic Sliver? - alternatively, I'd pull my soul wardens for it since life gain comes from Ajani and it's not as creature heavy as I'd originally thought...

    It is far slower, but it will activate the Liege, gives us a couple more creatures, and is more flexible than disenchant since it gets any permanent

    My contribution for the day is Scrubland

    4x Ajani Goldmane

    2x Soul Warden
    3x Savannah Lions
    2x White Knight
    2x Angel of Despair
    2x Deathbringer Liege
    2x Exalted Angel
    2x Necroskitter

    4x Vindicate
    2x Mortify
    2x Disenchant
    1x Wrath of God
    1x Ghost Council of Orzhova
    1x Puppeteer clique
    2x Oblivion Ring
    2x Healing Salve
    1x Cauldron Haze
    1x Cauldron of souls
    1x Well of Lost Dreams
    1x Cradle of Vitality

    4x Scrubland

    Creatures: 17
    Non-Creature Cards: 19
    Lands: 4

    Total: 40

    With 20 lands, this deck is done.
  9. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    I'll add another non-basic land, but only 2.
    Fetid Heath
    Gives colorless, but color fixes if needed.

    Does this deck really need 24 land cards?

    4x Ajani Goldmane

    2x Soul Warden
    3x Savannah Lions
    2x White Knight
    2x Angel of Despair
    2x Deathbringer Liege
    2x Exalted Angel
    2x Necroskitter

    4x Vindicate
    2x Mortify
    2x Disenchant
    1x Wrath of God
    1x Ghost Council of Orzhova
    1x Puppeteer clique
    2x Oblivion Ring
    2x Healing Salve
    1x Cauldron Haze
    1x Cauldron of souls
    1x Well of Lost Dreams
    1x Cradle of Vitality

    4x Scrubland
    2x Fetid Heath

    Creatures: 17
    Non-Creature Cards: 19
    Lands: 6

    Total: 42
  10. Shabbaman insert avatar here

    I think it does. It has no acceleration and needs quite some mana.
  11. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    And what is that? I'd rather have Dawnfluke, since it's the same cc and/or it's a creature.
  12. BigBlue Magic Jones

    I added the healing salves to prevent damage to the player - and thus to Ajani...
    We can take 'em or leave em... but that's why they are there.
  13. Shabbaman insert avatar here

    What about Seht's tiger? Would that work? Argh, complicated, my brain hurts!
  14. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    Let's look at the three cards
    Seht's tiger (3/3)
    2WW
    Flash (You may play this spell any time you could play an instant.)
    When Seht's Tiger comes into play, you gain protection from the color of your choice until end of turn.

    Dawnfluke (0/3)
    3W
    Flash
    When Dawnfluke comes into play, prevent the next 3 damage that would be dealt to target creature or player this turn.
    Evoke W

    Healing Salve
    W
    Instant
    Choose one — Target player gains 3 life; or prevent the next 3 damage to target creature or player this turn.


    1) All 3 can be cast at instant speed
    2) Salve and Dawnfluke are a 1cc
    3) Tiger is also a 3/3 creature
    4) Tiger prevents all damage from 1 color
    5) Tiger is 4cc

    I still think I'd rather have Dawnfluke, but it would be better with Glorious Anthem.
  15. BigBlue Magic Jones

    Dawnfluke > Healing Salve for this deck. Too bad it can't gain life instead... (after a persist return say)... But, I don't think life will be a problem in this deck. Since I added the Salves, I don't have any hesitation pulling them for Dawnfluke... (which i'd never heard of before).

    I think the liege is a much better replacement for Anthem...

    4x Ajani Goldmane

    2x Soul Warden
    2x Dawnfluke
    3x Savannah Lions
    2x White Knight
    2x Angel of Despair
    2x Deathbringer Liege
    2x Exalted Angel
    2x Necroskitter

    4x Vindicate
    2x Mortify
    2x Disenchant
    1x Wrath of God
    1x Ghost Council of Orzhova
    1x Puppeteer clique
    2x Oblivion Ring
    1x Cauldron Haze
    1x Cauldron of souls
    1x Well of Lost Dreams
    1x Cradle of Vitality

    4x Scrubland
    2x Fetid Heath

    Creatures: 19
    Non-Creature Cards: 17
    Lands: 6

    Total: 42
  16. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    I forgot about that..... yes, much better

    Since swamp walk is much more prevalent than plains walk:
    Urborg.... still gets the black mana

    Does this look done?

    4x Ajani Goldmane

    2x Soul Warden
    2x Dawnfluke
    3x Savannah Lions
    2x White Knight
    2x Angel of Despair
    2x Deathbringer Liege
    2x Exalted Angel
    2x Necroskitter

    4x Vindicate
    2x Mortify
    2x Disenchant
    1x Wrath of God
    1x Ghost Council of Orzhova
    1x Puppeteer clique
    2x Oblivion Ring
    1x Cauldron Haze
    1x Cauldron of souls
    1x Well of Lost Dreams
    1x Cradle of Vitality

    4x Scrubland
    2x Fetid Heath
    2x Urborg

    Creatures: 19
    Non-Creature Cards: 17
    Lands: 8

    Total: 44
  17. Shabbaman insert avatar here

    It could use some lands... 2 Godless shrine to start with.

    4x Ajani Goldmane

    2x Soul Warden
    2x Dawnfluke
    3x Savannah Lions
    2x White Knight
    2x Angel of Despair
    2x Deathbringer Liege
    2x Exalted Angel
    2x Necroskitter

    4x Vindicate
    2x Mortify
    2x Disenchant
    1x Wrath of God
    1x Ghost Council of Orzhova
    1x Puppeteer clique
    2x Oblivion Ring
    1x Cauldron Haze
    1x Cauldron of souls
    1x Well of Lost Dreams
    1x Cradle of Vitality

    4x Scrubland
    2x Godless shrine2x Fetid Heath
    2x Urborg

    Creatures: 19
    Non-Creature Cards: 17
    Lands: 10

    Total: 46[/QUOTE]
  18. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    Should the rest be basic lands? Or would 1 or 2 fetch lands be good?

    4x Ajani Goldmane

    2x Soul Warden
    2x Dawnfluke
    3x Savannah Lions
    2x White Knight
    2x Angel of Despair
    2x Deathbringer Liege
    2x Exalted Angel
    2x Necroskitter

    4x Vindicate
    2x Mortify
    2x Disenchant
    1x Wrath of God
    1x Ghost Council of Orzhova
    1x Puppeteer clique
    2x Oblivion Ring
    1x Cauldron Haze
    1x Cauldron of souls
    1x Well of Lost Dreams
    1x Cradle of Vitality

    4x Scrubland
    2x Godless shrine
    2x Fetid Heath
    2x Urborg

    Creatures: 19
    Non-Creature Cards: 17
    Lands: 10

    Total: 46
  19. Shabbaman insert avatar here

    Why wouldn't you want to run all 8 duals? The deck relies on both colors. As for fetches, well, same story. But instead of fetches we could run something like Eternal dragon, a plainscycler (that'll also fetch duals). Cut both disenchants and two basic lands and add 4 landcyclers.
  20. Mooseman Isengar Tussle

    Sounds ok to me.... go ahead and finish the deck.

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