Amazing Race 13

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EricBess

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Pretty standard fare so, far. The people that were eliminated were no suprise. The group that did the "other detour" are idiots and the only interesting point about them is that they pointed out twice in the episode just how stupid something they did was.

Hopefully this won't give too much away, but...you are climbing stairs on your hands and knees and there is going to be a "mystery question" at the top. What did you THINK the question was going to be???
 

Spiderman

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Well, the show's had their "old folks" last pretty long before, so there wasn't any guarantee that the ones this time would be the first eliminated... heck, going into a couple of the "checkpoints", that dating team? the one with Stephanie kept coming in last...

Heh, my wife guessed the mystery question and I have to say, I wouldn't have thought of it either.

The frat boys, or least one of them, is already getting on my nerves from being a "drama king" already, with his exclamations and pouting and putting his head down at the counter when they didn't get the American flight.
 

Spiderman

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Frat boys either were better or didn't get much air time, due to the "feud" in the beginning with Tina and hubby vs Terence and Sarah. Although they quickly made up...

The divorcees sure made a mess out of their challenges but they were pretty far ahead to begin with so they didn't lose too much.
 
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EricBess

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Did you notice at the beginning of the episode, they called the frat boys "Team Superbad"?

If by "challenges", you mean "reading the instructions", then yeah, they made a mess of that particular challenge, but I suspect that every episode is going to use that challenge. Seems to me that they were otherwise fine, but their wasted time in both cases was after what was supposed to be the challenge, looking for a container and then their cab (probably the cameraman told him to wait anyway?).

I can't believe what a whiner Terrence is. I'm sure it hurt when his head got hit, but his reactions were very odd, almost like a little kid.

And how about the plane ticket thing. Are you aware that Tina got the airline to get a larger plane? Not sure what happened behind the scenes on that one, maybe she really did, but I think that making sure everyone knows it isn't going to get anyone to feel like they owe you a favor and might actually make them think you are an idiot, especially if you then insist on being the first ones through the door because you booked your ticket first.

And, to be consistent, Mark and Bill did get that last puzzle first and Tina wouldn't have solved it nearly as soon as she did had they not told her how they were going to do it, so by her own reasoning, shouldn't they have let Mark and Bill on the mat first? I have to say, though, I was impressed by his comment (not sure which is Mark and which is Bill), graciously saying that missing out on the round prize was worth it if it helps them strengthen their marriage.

That's another one that gets me, though. Why do so many people come on this race to try to patch things up or to figure out if they should keep going? Don't people realize how stressful this thing is? Why is it that they only feel like they should be together still if they are winning? Anthony and Stephanie were even wierder, though. "We really want to be together, but we need the winnings from the race to do so." I know life is expensive, but how does the rest of the world manage?
 

Spiderman

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Wow, lots to reply to...

First, no, didn't notice the reference to Team Superbad :)

Second, yeah, I think someone from the show told him to wait, but I guess it wasn't an obvious place. Certainly that one lady kept saying "no, it's not over there" when the other kept asking if they should check. Check everything!

Terence does seem a little... needy.

I don't think Tina got a bigger plane, but who knows, maybe with such a small country, the show pulled some strings? I don't see that happening either but maybe the airline saw the show taping and wanted to do something?

Mark and Bill do seem pretty cool.

Yeah, I don't know what's up with trying to patch things over, especially since this is #13 and presumably people have seen it already. But I guess they figure that this is such a crucible to be thrown into that if they make it, they can make anything.
 
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EricBess

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I think you are probably right about the plane...having all the cameras around may have been the biggest factor :D I just thought it was funny that everyone kept saying, "yeah, right" as soon as she walked away. It was a bit annoying, but then again...we she it over and over again and she only told each team once, so it probably wasn't quite so annoying to them. :p

Just thinking - if you have a good relationship and want to see if you can handle a stressful situation before getting married, then yeah, great crucible to see how your potential spouse (or yourself) handles a lot of pressure. If you are a struggling couple and want to use the race to see if it will make you close...don't bother.
 

Spiderman

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Well, the divorcees got quite a break on Sunday... due to the "geek"'s missing the part where they had to walk and not ride and took a 30 min penalty...

I think Ken? and Tina are getting a tad cocky for winning twice in a row, but other than that, nothing really stands out for now... well, except for the "feud" going on between the divorcees and Starr, but whatever :)
 
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EricBess

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The one thing that stood out to me, though, was that it seemed to take a while for everyone to get to the detour climbing up the hills and locating things. A lot of that was probably just the way they edited it, but I'm wondering how much time Mark and Bill saved by taking a taxi. Plus, his real problem seemed to be exhaustion and oxygen deprevation at the wrestling, so I'm not really convinced that the mistake really mattered. If anything, might have actually still helped them in the long run, but I guess it made for more drama regardless.

I agree about Tina and Ken. They seem fairly competative and I'm guessing that if they start losing, they will be the type of team that is constantly blaming each other and tearing each other down. So far, they have done well, but they do seem to be a bit overconfident. I could be wrong, but it will be interesting to see what does happen if they have a bad week.
 

Spiderman

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Didn't Terrence and Sarah start at about the same time as Mark & Bill but they discovered the walking part first and went back? I don't think the ride saved them too much time, so the penalty probably hurt more than if they had gone back and went by foot.
 
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EricBess

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Perhaps. I had a real hard time this week trying to follow who was in what place for some reason.
 

Spiderman

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Tina and Ken are still annoying me for some reason, so I wish they'd stop getting first place. I don't dislike them enough to want them to lose (yet), but I think them winning is getting old :)

Hope Starr is okay - not sure what happens if a team has to leave because of a medical emergency. Do they take the place of what would normally be the last place team?

So far I think the most likable is the mother-son team.
 
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EricBess

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They have a 12-hour rest period and they have shown people getting medical attention during that rest period before, so I imagine that worst-case scenario is that she ends up in a cast. Of course, given how physical a lot of the challenges are, that could be pretty bad in the long run.
 

Spiderman

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Yeah, if she actually broke her arm. I know they said not to put your hand/arm down if the car is going down, but what do you do? Just sit tight and topple over? That seems so counterintuitive :) And most are physical, so yeah, they could be hurting...
 
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EricBess

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So, no broken arm, and clearly she isn't letting it get to her.

Was it just me, or did they make a point of every team saying "we're going to excel at the physical/mental challenges". My favorite was when the divorces said that they had to win so that people would finally see that they were a force to be recond with, then they go and start shooting hoops before they even had the clue telling them to do that...These are the same two that spend 1/2 hour digging for a container they didn't need, right?

Looks like Tina and Ken are finally falling from the top spot, and based on the previews, next week might show us whether they can stick together through the tough times as well as the good. I thought it was pretty funny that Tina would beat her chest out in the open to see if it would echo, but then ran right through the tiny room to see if maybe the echo chamber was on the other side of it...I guess she was looking for a canyon.
 

Spiderman

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Finally saw it last night. We have a lot of shows taping on DVR but can only watch one of them a night, if that...

Yep, the arm doesn't seem to be too bad, especially when the first shot of her was her reaching over to put on her seatbelt with it :)

Yeah, the divorcees had that moment and the frat boys with their inability to pump the gas. And they keep saying they need to "step up" to get themselves beyond fighting for the last three places... that's not gonna do it!

Yep about Tina and Ken... I was already commenting that they didn't look so happy in this leg when they went to fourth? We'll see about next week. Missed that about her trying to echo outside the chamber; just saw here keep running through it :)

I wonder how far back the black couple was... the show keep interspersing shots of them, but since they never got in the same shot with another team, I'm thinking they were a couple hours behind and never really in it.
 

Spiderman

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Saw Sunday's...

It's interesting to see how different teams support their teammates. You have Nick/Starr and Dallas/Mom, who are very supportive of each other, and then there's Terrence/Sarah and Ken/Tina, where the partners try to direct the other one. Also interesting was the divorcees comment about how controlling Terrence is: Is that something they saw in the challenge or throughout the race? Hopefully Sarah can stand up to him (and it looks like sh can so far).

Frat boys seem to be taking a beating... even though they were last from the start, everyone got on the same flight (so the time penalty for Terrence/Sarah was also a non-factor) and they were first from the Roadblock, but got lost, arrived last to the Detour, and couldn't stay calm during the roadblock. Only Ken/Tina's choices of somehow picking the "wrong" cab each time let the frat boys get ahead of them, it seemed. But honestly, I wouldn't have minded seeing either one go.

So my picks for winner in order are:

Dallas/Mom - seem to be great people, haven't really had any conflict with anyone
Nick/Starr - ditto, but lose a little with their spat with the divorcees
Divorcees and Terrence/Sarah - tied, and really because the next two are just even worse. Frankly, there's a big dropoff between the first two and the rest of the teams. The divorcess are annoying with their cattiness and Terrence drags down Sarah
Ken/Tina and Frat Boys - tied, both are equally annoying :)
 
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EricBess

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I think this is the first time that the ending surprized me. They always try to make it look like it is close, but you can usually tell. But this week, I could have sworn that Ken and Tina were ahead of the frat boys coming into the checkpoint.

Clearly, when they are in separate areas of the detour, it is easier for the producers to shake it up, but there are usually enough time clues to figure it out. It makes me wonder if Ken and Tina got lost.

Did they show the frat boys getting lost before the roadblock? They were in the lead and the next time you see them, they are all but last, but I don't remember seeing anything to indicate why. It didn't surprise me that they managed to fall back again, but normally, they show something. Maybe I just missed it.

I agree about your top 2, though I really don't have an order preference. It would be interesting to see if Dallas and Starr end up dating after the race. They both seem to be attracted to each other. It certainly wouldn't be unprecidented.

After that, I would put Terence/Sarah and Ken/Tina slightly ahead of the other 2 teams. I agree that Ken/Tina are annoying, but to be honest, I was actually expecting them to play the blame game with each other and they held together fairly well. I was more impressed with them than I thought I would be. As such, I hope they last longer than the frat boys or the divorcees. They are going to have a tough road next week with the speed bump.
 

Spiderman

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I can't remember about the frat boys getting lost before the Roadblock, but they probably just had a bad cabbie who couldn't find it.

Last night's episode showed why the divorcees needed to go... they made SO many mistakes on that one. It started right off the bat when they did the Roadblock at the Holy Festival and just pulling the first envelope off the "tree" and running back. You'd think they'd start reading the clue again to find out what they needed to do but she did it at least three more times, allowing 2-3 teams to pass them.

And then doing the Detour in the cab and rushing through, *plus* turning down the frat boys' offer to ally temporarily... man, glad they are gone.

Frat boys seemed okay this round, but the previews make it look like next week will be interesting between them.

I agree Ken & Tina seemed to have settled down a bit. It was funny to see her saying the numbers and the guy at the Detour pushing her away and her asking "Why did he do that?" :)

Did you notice that Starr got off pretty lightly in the Holy Festival? She was barely touched... I think she had the advantage of going first and the people didn't know what to do with her, but everyone after her got bombed. I mean, they were lining up in front of the box, ready to pelt the person coming in. Man, that's crazy... :)
 
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EricBess

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Yeah, I agree about the paint challenge. Both about the divorcee not reading the clue (dispite watching other teams do it right) and about Starr getting off easy. The frat boy (I think that's who it was, might have been someone else) got off pretty easy too, at least until they were already on a ladder searching. The divorcee seemed to be getting it more in the face than everyone else (except Terrance, who apparently got some in his sinuses), but that could have just been the fact that they spent so much time on the ground.
 
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