6 decks in one place

[Gizmo]

4 Llanowar Elf
4 Birds Of Paradise
4 Wild Mongrel
4 Spellbane Centaur

3 Firebolt
4 Terminate
3 Last Rites
4 Call of the Herd
4 Roar Of The Wurm
3 Void

1 Darigaaz`s Caldera
1 Mossfire Valley
1 Mountain
2 Karplusan Forest
2 Sulfurous Springs
4 Shadowblood Ridge
4 Llanowar Wastes
8 Forest



4 Spectral Lynx
3 Shadowmage Infiltrator
2 Dromar, The Unsummoner

4 Counterspell
4 Dromars Charm
4 Absorb
2 Recoil
2 Rushing River
2 Pariah
4 Wrath Of God
4 Fact Or Fiction

1 Dromars Cavern
1 Caves Of Koilos
2 Underground River
4 Salt Marsh
4 Skycloud Expanse
4 Adarkar Wastes
4 Plains
5 Island



4 Vodalian Zombie
4 Coral Merfolk
4 Lord Of Atlantis
3 Merfolk Looter
4 Shadowmage Infiltrator

3 Divert
4 Counterspell
4 Aether Burst
4 Undermine
4 Recoil

4 Underground River
4 Darkwater Catacombs
3 Swamp
11 Island



4 Lava Blister
4 Stone Rain
4 Pillage
3 Earth Rift
3 Implode

4 Firebolt
4 Fire/Ice
3 Earthquake

4 Magnivore
2 Tahngarth, Talruum Champion

4 Barbarian Ring
4 Petrified Field
16 Mountain



4 Blurred Mongoose
4 Wild Mongrel
3 Kavu Titan
3 Spellbane Centaur
4 Mystic Snake

3 Memory Lapse
4 Counterspell
4 Temporal Spring
3 Urzas Rage
3 Fact Or Fiction
2 Prophetic Bolt

1 City Of Brass
4 Shivan Reef
4 Karplusan Forest
4 Yavimaya Coast
5 Island
5 Forest



4 Duress
3 Ghastly Demise
3 Gerrards Verdict
4 Vindicate
2 Pariah
3 Death Grasp
3 Phyrexian Arena
3 Wrath Of God
2 Haunting Echoes

4 Spectral Lynx
4 Millstone

4 Caves Of Koilos
8 Plains
12 Swamp

 

[Turtlewax Joe]

Two things abou the Dromar deck, ONE: His name is THE BANISHER and, TWO: Why no Undermines??

T.J.

 

[Gizmo]

He might be called the Banisher but he unsummons:
Dromar, the Unsummoner
Darigaaz, the Burner
Crosis, the Persecuter
Rith, the Twinkie-Maker
Treva, the Crap

And Undermine is worse than Dromars Charm or Absorb, and I only have space for 8 3cc counters.

 

[Turtlewax Joe]

ic......I would rather run Undermine over Absorb...hmmmm, let's see?? Life gain or KILL??

Just my personal opinion. I don't expect it to counted

T.J.

 

[Gizmo]

No Absorb is much better than Undermine in this deck. I dont care about lowering my opponent`s lifetotal until I am safely in charge of the game, then I`ll simply swing my Lynx a half-dozen times. Absorb keeps me in the game, and thats what I need. I cant support the lifeloss of Undermine in this deck with other damage sources, so it`s virtually useless.

 

[rkoelsch]

I am surprised there isn't a white weenie deck But then I know of your aversion to plains. I do think they will be plentiful especially the U/W designs.

 

[Gizmo]

4 Stormscape Apprentice
4 Meddling Mage
3 Cephalid Scout
4 Patron Wizard
3 Temporal Adept

3 Divert
4 Counterspell
4 Boomerang
3 Absorb
2 Repulse
3 Global Ruin/ManaBreach

2 City Of Brass
4 Coastal Tower
4 Adarkar Wastes
13 Island

And you are right. I`m hugely NOT A FAN of White Weenie. I just dont see how it is going to win any games without a Parallax Wave or, indeed, ANY OTHER form of creature removal. Maybe if you want to run Wash Out...

 

[Istanbul]

Vengeance kills anything that's tapped...
Reprisal takes down Hippo/Dragons/FTK/D.Angel/your favorite fattie here...
Pacifism doesn't kill a creature, but renders it unable to attack or block, leaving most creatures useless...

White has creature elimination. It's not where you look, it's how you look.

 

[Gizmo]

Yes, for instance if, like you did, you include Sub-par spells that arent worth using, you can get some removal.

The only one there I'd even play in a BAD deck is Pacifism.

I think that any WWeenie deck has to look outside white for removal. Be it blue for Wash Out, or red for burn.

 

[Istanbul]

Well, I admit that I'd never use Vengeance, but...you really think Reprisal is bad? It kills so MANY creatures for just two mana at instant speed...

 

[Spiderman]

Why are they sub-par?

 

[rkoelsch]

Vengence is a 4cc sorcery that only kills tapped targets(too expensive, too conditional)

Reprisal is really a sideboard card. a useless card if none of their creatures are 4 power.

Pacifism is an answer but it suffers the fate of all creature enchantments as being card disadvantage.

 

[Spiderman]

So are people not playing a lot of 4 power creatures these days?

I agree about Pacifism, but is there a lot of enchantment removal these days too?

I'm just trying to get a feel for the environment.

 

[rkoelsch]

if you look at Gizmo's decks as an example
1- 20 creatures 4 over 4
2-9 creatures 2 over 4
3-19 creatures 0 over 4
6-6 creatures 6 over 4(could be 2)
4-18 creatures 3 over 4(could be 0)
6-4 creatures 0 over 4

How many reprisals would you put main deck knowing they would only be good 25% of the time.

As long as opposition remains a top deck almost everyone will have main deck enchantment hate.

 

[Gizmo]

These are the better of the above decks.

Wormsign

4 Birds Of Paradise
4 Llanowar Elf
4 Wild Mongrel
4 Thornscape Battlemage
3 Spellbane Centaur
2 Kavu Chameleon

3 Firebolt
4 Terminate
4 Call of The Herd
3 Roar Of The Wurm
3 Void

1 Darigaaz`s Caldera
1 Mountain
3 Karplusan Forest
3 Sulfurous Springs
1 Mossfire Valley
3 Shadowblood Ridge
4 Llanowar Wastes
6 Forest

Which gets beaten about 90% of the time by...

No-Go-Mar

4 Spectral Lynx
3 Shadowmage Infiltrator
2 Waterspout Elemental

4 Counterspell
4 Absorb
4 Dromars Charm
2 Rusing River
2 Recoil
2 Pariah
4 Fact Or Fiction
4 Wrath of God

1 Dromars Cavern
1 Darkwater Catacombs
2 Skycloud Prairie
1 Caves Of Koilos
2 Underground River
4 Salt Marsh
4 Adarkar Wastes
2 Swamp
3 Plains
5 Island

Which gets its oink handed to it by...

Fish

4 Coral Merfolk
4 Vodalian Zombie
4 Lord Of Atlantis
3 Merfolk looter
4 Shadowmage Infiltrator

3 Divert
4 Counterspell
4 Aether Burst
3 Recoil
3 Undermine
2 Spite/Malice

2 Cephalid Colosseum
4 Salt Marsh
4 Underground River
2 Swamp
10 Island

Which doesnt have a hope in hell against Wormsign

Its almost like that game, have you heard of it? Rock, Paper, Scissors?


Going to build a Counter-Trenches, a Liquid Tempo, and a UG Opposition deck to play against. See which fares best.