Hi here's my newest Type II comboesque deck, hope you like it. G/R Turbo-Rage Lands: 11 Forest 6 Mountain 4 Karplusan Forest Mana acceleration: 4 Birds of Paradise 4 Llanowar Elves 4 Wild Growth 4 Overabundance 4 Skyshroud Claim Burn Spells: 4 Urza's Rage 4 Ghitu Fire Creatures: 4 Saproling Burst 2 Verdeloth, the Ancient Other Stuff: 3 Fires of Yavimaya 2 Ashnod's Altar The goal of this deck is obviously creating tons of mana, and then win via Million hasted Saprolings or kicked Rages... BTW, here's a real turn 4 kill vs. Rebels 1st turn Forest Elf 2nd turn Mountain Overabundance 3rd turn Mountain 3xSkyshroud Claim, 4th turn I had the following on the board: 7 forests 2 Mountains 1 Elf 1 Overabundance, that's 19 mana folks. My opponent had various rebels in play and was at 14 or so from the mana barbs. I tap all my mana cast a Ghitu Fire for 6 and to gather extra coolness points a kicked Rage. This deck is blast to play but with 43 slots devoted to mana production and 0 slots to deckmanipulation (where's Wheel of Fortune?) it's a bit inconsistent.