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Does a Bargain-based combo deck have more to offer than one relying on Paradoxical Outcome? Dark Petition? Ad Nauseam? Griselbrand? I think so. Outcome is heavily reliant on artifacts. Petition is dependent on having both the setup to cast it early with spell mastery and the potential to follow...

Well, now that I've talked Legacy to death, it's time to address Vintage. I see one major factor that makes this easier than the Legacy analysis and one major factor that makes it harder... To make things easier, Yawgmoth's Bargain is already restricted in Vintage, rather than banned. This...

UUD, Swamp, done. :yawn: Spiderman: 20 Hand: 4 Library: 50 Battlefield: (U,U,U) Plains x3 (U) Island (U) Gideon's Lawkeeper (1/1; W, T: Tap target creature) Graveyard: Nephalia Smuggler Exile...

UUD... Hit Aerial Responder for 3. Then I'll attack Melkor with a Horror, Spidey with a Horror and a Thragtusk, and Rokapoke with a Horror. Blocks/responses?

Like I said, part of my very long post was lost. I'll try again, but it won't be exactly the same. the stuff I'm writing now is definitely taking on a different form than if I'd tried to write a structured article. When I started that post, I had no intention of trying to elucidate the...

Well, I guess we're in a topdeck war. It was bound to happen eventually. :yawn:

-A hobgoblin swings a strange-looking blade and slashes Throg (18/19). -The Dark Sword steals 1 Weapon Skill from Throg. -A hobgoblin leaps at Dorgath, swinging a crude axe, but the dwarf weaves out of range. -A hobgoblin attempts to jump onto Tomas, but miscalculates and falls. -A hobgoblin...

UUD, Swamp, Ghoulraiser, done. This deck is really disappointing me based on what I saw from you playing it last game. Spiderman: 20 Hand: 4 Library: 51 Battlefield: (U,U) Plains x3 (T) Gideon's Lawkeeper (1/1; W, T: Tap target creature) Graveyard: Nephalia Smuggler Exile...

I had a second part to my previous post an the message board ate it. I don't have time to rewrite it now. But rest assured that I was going somewhere with this. I'll get back to finish my train of thought at a later date. Really annoyed that the message board ate my post. :mad:

To address Legacy specifically, I'm going to ramble a bit here... Yawgmoth's Bargain has been banned in Legacy since the format's inception a carryover from the old Type 1.5 ban list. It's only been in the last few years that I've seen some espouse the belief that Bargain should be unbanned...

Nah, I'll leave the rest the same. Probably just steal the Mob back out of Melkor's graveyard later. Like after I kill you.

Untap, upkeep, Scute Mob grows, draw... Play Grixis Panorama. And let's see. Yeah, I'll cast this... It's me! Roar, I am a dragon. With my mighty dragon powers, I blow up Khalni Heart Expedition. Done. Nicol Bolas, God Emperor of Dune: 41 Hand: 4 Library: 43 Battlefield: (T) Swamp...

Neither did I. Swamp, done. Spiderman: 20 Hand: 4 Library: 52 Battlefield: (U,U) Plains x2 (T) Gideon's Lawkeeper (1/1; W, T: Tap target creature) Graveyard: Nephalia Smuggler Exile: ====================================================================================================...

Note that the monsters are showing up outside the edges of the board sections. Keep in mind that you're technically traveling on the forest floor along a densely overgrown path, so there aren't true walls here. For the purposes of fighting, there's nothing stopping you from occupying those...

Also... -The Power Phase is 1 for this turn. An Unexpected Event occurs. -It's hobgoblins, of course. They ambush you.

The path forks here, and both forks look like dark, narrow trails along the forest floor. Jekaena hesitates, but declares that she thinks that when she passed this way before, it was along the path to your right. Probably.

UUD... Ugh. Guess I'd better. I cast Despise again...

The Thragtusk. Such a noble beast. It would be a shame for it to languish forever in the darkness of Melkor's graveyard. So I shall extract it from that darkness. And with that, I'm done. Nicol Bolas, God Emperor of Dune: 45 Hand: 5 Library: 44 Battlefield: (T) Swamp (T) Dragonskull Summit...

I should note that while I find this speculation interesting and don't personally come down hard on either side, the point is moot. WotC have no interest in unbanning or unrestricting Yawgmoth's Bargain, as their current stance is hostile toward combo decks and they can't even be bothered to...

Like everyone else on the planet, I think that decks focused on creature types are a fun and cool part of the game. Personally, I'm not so interested in the fusion of Commander and tribal synergies. I like both separately, but don't see much appeal in combining them. However, I'm in the minority...