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    Changes to Mulligan Rule

    While he doesn't explicitly state that all of the information they're getting is from in-house testing, he does say... Considering that most of what he talks about is dealing with alternative versions of the mulligan, I suspect that most of this is gleaned from in-house testing. There aren't...
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    The Comboist Manifesto Discussion Thread

    New article submitted. Yeah, took long enough. I alluded to it, but there have been some obstacles to my aspirations of continuing this series. My crazy work schedule is the biggest factor, but I also recently moved and changed computers, then kept putting off a return. While I do really like...
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    Changes to Mulligan Rule

    The one you made up? It seems like you're trying to get some sort of rise out of me by referring to the contents of my head. This is silly. From your wording, perhaps it's worth noting that data collection is a thing. Stringing the two words together creates a reference to a concept that is...
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    IE 11 and the Back button

    Internet Explorer still exists?
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    Changes to Mulligan Rule

    No one was talking about data collection with regard to this change until you made it up on your own. It is entirely your own idea, and yet I'm the one who is hung up on it? The best hope for "continuing the discussion further" is that it presents an opportunity for you to attribute a position...
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    Single Card Deck Building Contest Mark VIII

    It doesn't take that long, just too long for it to be a reliable kill by itself. If Goblin Bomb at been blue, it would have been a semi-popular kill condition in control decks at some point. The blue/red control decklist I made back in 2006 isn't great, but I think that it shows how the concept...
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    Changes to Mulligan Rule

    Well, if you go into things with your mind made up that it won't be changed, you'll probably get what you expect. I think that you're not even wrong. Lacking time travel, I can't say whether WotC will have observers recording data on mulligans at PT Magic Origins. Also, lacking time...
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    Changes to Mulligan Rule

    So, for example, the part about how Wizards of the Coast has an article up referring to tests and to player feedback, but not to data collection of game details from tournaments, is not a fact, but merely my opinion? Really? Oh. Well, in that case, perhaps we should discuss your claim that...
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    Changes to Mulligan Rule

    And how many of those threads involve Spiderman? :p
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    Changes to Mulligan Rule

    I agree. To be fair, WotC doesn't really bother with Legacy anymore anyway and if this type of mulligan becomes the new norm, it should probably be judged more for its effects in Standard and Modern (and maybe Limited formats), since that's what they had in mind. In their podcast about...
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    Changes to Mulligan Rule

    I've spent a fair bit of text explaining why I don't believe that this sort of data collection is going on. You've simply repeated that I don't know, without justifying that position in any way. Also, the article that Melkor linked to included a brief summary of what is behind the decision, at...
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    Changes to Mulligan Rule

    Absolutely not. They can make whatever decision they want, and I've admitted (a few times now, I think) that I believe them when they say they ran tests and listened to player feedback. That's all fine. They also made a claim about interactivity in games and have stated that they don't think...
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    Single Card Deck Building Contest Mark VIII

    Thread necromancy! I was looking for something and saw this. I wish that I would have responded to it back then because this person's understanding of Goblin Bomb was way off. 1 in 32 is the probability of getting Goblin Bomb to go off as quickly as it is possible for the card to do so by...
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    Changes to Mulligan Rule

    Oh, I doubt they'd be that bad about it. I know I just accused WotC of a lack of statistical rigor where I think it would make sense for them to hire more statisticians and quantify things more, but they're still smart people. They probably wouldn't actually use just one tournament as their sole...
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    Changes to Mulligan Rule

    Nope. Didn't say that. I'm referring to the totality of the circumstances here... The Magic tournament scene varies in detail across regions and locally within regions depending on tournament size, level of rules enforcement, demographics of communities, quirks of local metagames, etc. To...
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    Changes to Mulligan Rule

    It kind of does. Magic is a huge, popular game and the physical version of the game (not Magic Online) is played almost entirely in places where there is no inherent record of the details of the match. Yeah, some tournaments include records of decklists for everyone in the tournament and...
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    Regional Slang

    Ooh, I like it. This thread is now officially about Pennsylvania intrastate rivalry. Continue...
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    Changes to Mulligan Rule

    I think Mooseman's post pretty much sums it up, although he's totally been at a lot more tournaments than I have, probably by an order of magnitude. But I'm not even saying that we know WotC isn't taking a data collection approach to tournaments as a whole just on the basis of what I've seen or...
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    Changes to Mulligan Rule

    I doubt that. To be clear, the concept of data collection with respect to a popular card game is different from "multiple tests" if that's what you're thinking. Data collection requires observation and recording of real games with real players. Yeah, like everyone else, WotC has access to the...
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    Changes to Mulligan Rule

    I don't think that anyone collects that sort of data, as it's too subjective. Even to get data on mulligan frequency at all would require changes to the way tournaments are run, I think...
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